About a decade ago before Google took over this group I mentioned that
use of the water pump ideology would provide a unique form of
antennas.
Roy at that time pointed out that there was no correlation with
electron flow.
As most know this did not deter me and I have devoted the last ten
years
in following this path on antennas. Yes. I know it has never been
accepted as some may well remember the combination loop dipole that I
have spoken about plus the the home written amateur patents.
To cut the story short I heard thru the grapevine that a series of
patents have been applied for using the pump (coupling in electrical
parlance)
where instead of a dipole combination the pump is applied to the loop
antenna
such that they also are physically combined. ( presumably the same
principle)
Obviously they did more than that since physical connection of two
radiators
is now well known. If anybody comes across the actual description
of this new family of antennas I would sure like to learn more about
it as my
as my many discussions amoung the experts of this group has created
nothing but mirth such that I abandond a couple of extra patents both
here and abroad in embarrasement. If I could get hold of the actual
patent numbers I would like to see the error of my ways and the vital
step that I missed before wasting time on my present efforts as they
are so time consuming.
Any info on this new family of antennas would surely be appreciated by
this
poster.
Best Regards
Art Unwin KB9MZ ...XG..RSGB member

Geez, why go through all that effort? AES has a fine selection of antennas
already invented!
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73! de Andy KC2SSB - WPYI880 (GMRS)
Beachwood, NJ USA! Grid FM29vw
http://vhfradiobuff.tripod.com

On 23 Oct 2003 15:32:55 GMT, pamme (VHFRadioBuff)
wrote:

Geez, why go through all that effort? AES has a fine selection of antennas
already invented!

It's hard to understand what you're talking about if you don't quote
the previous message.

I suppose in your mind, everything useful has already been invented. All
further development work should now cease as we no longer need anything new.
Seems there was a member of congress during the 1800s that thought the same
thing. He proposed eliminating the patent office as all things useful had
already been invented.


"VHFRadioBuff" wrote in message
...
Geez, why go through all that effort? AES has a fine selection of antennas
already invented!
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
73! de Andy KC2SSB - WPYI880 (GMRS)
Beachwood, NJ USA! Grid FM29vw
http://vhfradiobuff.tripod.com

His real 'name' is VHF radio Boob.

Dan/W4NTI

"CW" wrote in message
news:zSDmb.24557$ao4.33500@attbi_s51...
I suppose in your mind, everything useful has already been invented. All
further development work should now cease as we no longer need anything
new.
Seems there was a member of congress during the 1800s that thought the
same
thing. He proposed eliminating the patent office as all things useful had
already been invented.


"VHFRadioBuff" wrote in message
...
Geez, why go through all that effort? AES has a fine selection of
antennas
already invented!
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
73! de Andy KC2SSB - WPYI880 (GMRS)
Beachwood, NJ USA! Grid FM29vw
http://vhfradiobuff.tripod.com

I suppose in your mind, everything useful has already been invented. All
further development work should now cease as we no longer need anything new.
Seems there was a member of congress during the 1800s that thought the same
thing. He proposed eliminating the patent office as all things useful had
already been invented.


"VHFRadioBuff" wrote in message
...
Geez, why go through all that effort? AES has a fine selection of antennas
already invented!
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
73! de Andy KC2SSB - WPYI880 (GMRS)
Beachwood, NJ USA! Grid FM29vw
http://vhfradiobuff.tripod.com

ANDY IS just a CBer with a so called Ham Ticket, he doesnt know any better,
and never will understand.

He was right!! All USEFUL things had been invented!

What he ignored was all those non-useful things waiting to be invented.

:-)

CW wrote:

I suppose in your mind, everything useful has already been invented. All
further development work should now cease as we no longer need anything new.
Seems there was a member of congress during the 1800s that thought the same
thing. He proposed eliminating the patent office as all things useful had
already been invented.


"VHFRadioBuff" wrote in message
...

Geez, why go through all that effort? AES has a fine selection of antennas
already invented!
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
73! de Andy KC2SSB - WPYI880 (GMRS)
Beachwood, NJ USA! Grid FM29vw
http://vhfradiobuff.tripod.com

I have read the antennex articles on antennas. What they are describing is
the attachment of a loop with a variable capacitor to a radiator.This I
discussed in my patent writings as well as an example of such with the
combination loop/dipole on this newsgroup some years ago.
The experts on THIS newsgroup attacked this concept vehamatly but you will
see that Antennex is insinuating that the concept is new plus they are
forming liasons with antenna manufacturers. This is a darn sight worse than
what QST did in that any review by the antennex group can well be seen as
self serving. I would rather stay with this newsgroup even tho I do not
agree with the experts all the time because in the main they ay are honestly
felt comments. In San Diego and ashes are now falling on the house so who
knows what is going to happen
Art Unwin KB9MZ XG
"Dave Shrader" wrote in message
news:trNmb.26165$9E1.83485@attbi_s52...
He was right!! All USEFUL things had been invented!

What he ignored was all those non-useful things waiting to be invented.

:-)

CW wrote:

I suppose in your mind, everything useful has already been invented. All
further development work should now cease as we no longer need anything
new.
Seems there was a member of congress during the 1800s that thought the
same
thing. He proposed eliminating the patent office as all things useful
had
already been invented.


"VHFRadioBuff" wrote in message
...

Geez, why go through all that effort? AES has a fine selection of
antennas
already invented!
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
73! de Andy KC2SSB - WPYI880 (GMRS)
Beachwood, NJ USA! Grid FM29vw
http://vhfradiobuff.tripod.com