On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 12:23:07 -0800, "John Smith"
wrote:

My post was simply a list of facts as they appear to me. The use of
communications to assist in the delivery of medicine, food, clothing,
building materials, etc. is of more importance than the use of airways for
recreation.
Since most would accept that the law of "...the greatest good for the
greatest number..." would apply, if push came to shove--the truckers would
probably end up with the frequencies in question...

Regards


There are frequencies assigned for those kinds of purposes, not
amateur frequencies. Try using a cell phone etc. Besides, they don't
need the ham bands to deliver medicine etc.
--
73 for now
Buck
N4PGW

So what is wrong with operating in their assigned frequencies?




On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 07:48:50 -0800, "John Smith"
wrote:

It is interesting that so many intend that you "design the world" then cause
the people to fit the design; this is 180 degrees of what really
happens--people bend the world to fit themselves.

For whatever reasons, some have seemed to have decided certain "rf space"
fits them and, they are no small number, the truckers!

While it might benefit some, if there were "radio police" to hunt down every
trucker with a 500+ watt linear, who would pay for this? Would hams accept
a 10000%+ increase in the cost of licenses to help fund such a force,
equipment and activities?

And, it is one thing to find a station running at a stationary
location--quite another when that station is mobile. However, those
enjoying such things would find one large and unending fox hunt--reminiscent
of the old "cops and robbers game" one played as a child!

Imprisoning citizens for simple infractions of rules which are causing no
one physical, monetary or real personal damage (i.e. amateurs are only being
deprived of sole benefit of bandwidth for their hobby use) is insane--you
have to wonder "what are these people thinking?"
One very good example of this, and could be viewed as a model of what would
happen if this were to occur might be "the war on drugs." We have waged
this war for 30+ years--there are more drugs on the streets than before we
began--and people are REALLY being harmed NOW as these criminals attempt to
gain the money to obtain the drugs we have made so expensive and, to escape
the penalties we have made so severe--INSANE! There is about the same
amount of cocaine in a coca plant as sugar in a sugar cane. I can walk into
a supermarket and buy 5 lbs of sugar for next to nothing! If that were
cocaine, it would probably get everyone in a major city high, maybe for
days! Since it is forced to the black market it most likely costs
millions!!! And, there seems an unlimited amount of addicts which will maim,
harm or even kill citizens to gain this drug--INSANE!

There was a time when one special group of a few individuals could be
allowed to think themselves "special" and allowed to run a unique "old boys
club." Times have changed. However, you are living in the past if you don't
see the handwriting on the wall and, think you will be able to oppose change
and evolution of the use of radio communications.

Some will personally attack me for pointing this all out-kill the messenger
bearing the bad news-WAKE UP! Look around, you are either part of the
problem or you are part of the solution...

When you are done acting like a child and throwing your temper
tantrums-perhaps you will see the problem is still there to deal with.



Regards

--
73 for now
Buck
N4PGW

Oh yeah, I forgot... if this proxy you entered ever becomes unavailable, you
will NOT be able to connect to the web. SO... remember to either go back in
IE and turn off the "Use proxy..." box using the above will guide you
there... then you can simply go back to the proxy web page, get a new
address of a new proxy and plug it into IE Explorer... you should change the
proxy you are using, frequently, anyway...

Regards

--
Hay, if'n ya'll cun't konstructivly partecipete in this disscusion, haw
aboot speel-checkin it fer me?


"John Smith" wrote in message
...
While I don't support people who threaten harm to others, neither do I
respect the "I am going to tell the teacher" types.

If you wish your ISP to be anonymous go to this web page, find an
anonymous host of your choosing:

http://www.atomintersoft.com/product.../proxy%2Dlist/



|-------
address -------|- port-|

the ISP address will be give in the form XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX:XXXX



using the address and port, open IE Explorer.

- go to "Tools"

- then "Internet Options"

- then "Connections" tab

- then "LAN Settings"

- check the "Use proxy server for you LAN" and enter the above
address and proxy into the appropriate boxes.

- Pick "OK", then "OK" again



Now your browser should be set to proxy through the ISP proxy you have
entered into IE Explorer. I leave it to you to make sure it is set
correctly, there are many pages on the web which will test for you and
show you the ISP that being displayed as being "yours."

If your settings in outlook express are to use the settings from IE
Explorer, this will make your postings and email appear to come from
another ISP which is NOT your real one-effectively making you anonymous..

No one should be able to say this is "illegal." It can simply be looked
at as sending a letter to someone and NOT including a return address on
the envelope-or, using an invalid address to protect the innocent.

Posting, and voicing ones thoughts should not be open to retaliation by
vengeful people who would harm you.


--
Hay, if'n ya'll cun't konstructivly partecipete in this disscusion, haw
aboot speel-checkin it fer me?


"H J" wrote in message
...
by the way if you wanna be a free trucker go with the best volvo lol i
will by a kw.or pete. next time i see you radio police cops
trying to get my tag number i may have to go to jail but i will make dam
shure that wil be your last number you get. just think 80.000lbs runing
you off the road

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
While I don't support people who threaten harm to others,
neither do I
respect the "I am going to tell the teacher" types.

It is the duty of every citizen to report crime when it is
witnessed!
There is no teacher here, just the American Justice system!

I answer to a much higher power first, then to my fellow citizens who ARE
the gov't--I answer to no one else... I am your best friend when you are in
trouble and seek someone to help you assure your unalienable rights--I
attempt to become your worst enemy if you are on the side of evil..

Regards

--
Hay, if'n ya'll cun't konstructivly partecipete in this disscusion, haw
aboot speel-checkin it fer me?


"Clarence_A" wrote in message
m...

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
While I don't support people who threaten harm to others,
neither do I
respect the "I am going to tell the teacher" types.

It is the duty of every citizen to report crime when it is
witnessed!
There is no teacher here, just the American Justice system!

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 19:48:52 -0800, Justín Käse
wrote:

In posted on
Mon, 28 Mar 2005 03:30:37 GMT, Russ wrote:

Of course, as a ham, I also despise freebanders and hope they get
caught and fined - big time.

You'd rather them bootlegging in the ham bands?
Like a public toilet in the park, sure it's nasty, but better than
****ting everywhere, and some folk are gonna communicate no matter where
the end up doing it.

I've seen some non-sequitors in my time but this one is in the top
ten.

I'd rather they kept to the CB and 4 watts. I'd rather they didn't
use amps. I hope they get caught and fined out of business. I pray
that we as a nation can throw off the chains of corruption that have
us enslaved and I hope that the motor freight industry finally faces
traffic enforcement like all of the rest of us. The motor freight
industry is a waste of fuel and a hazard to other users of the public
roads.

Does that clarify my position?

Russ

Man, what a low level the education system in this country has
achieved. This shining example of public instruction has a webtv
account and possibly a CDL. No wonder my life is in danger every time
I drive on the highways. Amateur radio is a hobby, nothing more. I
don't know many hams who put it before the rest of their commitments.
There are the few, of course but most of us know better. Naturally,
the garbage heard on the CB is so uplifting, it's almost like church.

Russ

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 21:39:27 -0600, wrote:

so what is more inportant in life not your hobby most people put there
radio hobby before,god and there family that is sad .they will drive all
night to go to a hamfest but when it comes time for a family event o i
cant make it heard it to many times on the radio waves.
so i guess the ups or fedex truck did not bring you that new hf rig so
next time you pick it up stop picking on truckers.

Excellent, uttering a terroristic threat in a public place. In some
states you may already have committed a crime.

You'll never know if I'm getting your tag number. All I need is your
line name and that big number on the box.

Russ

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 21:56:52 -0600, (H J) wrote:

by the way if you wanna be a free trucker go with the best volvo lol i
will by a kw.or pete. next time i see you radio police cops
trying to get my tag number i may have to go to jail but i will make dam
shure that wil be your last number you get. just think 80.000lbs runing
you off the road

Clarence_A wrote:
It is the duty of every citizen to report crime when it is
witnessed!
There is no teacher here, just the American Justice system!

What level of crime does freebanding fall into?
Misdemeanor 1,2,3,4? Felony 1,2,3,4? I witness
speeding crimes every day. When I report them,
absolutely nothing happens.
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73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

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"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
...
Clarence_A wrote:
It is the duty of every citizen to report crime when it is
witnessed!
There is no teacher here, just the American Justice system!

What level of crime does freebanding fall into?
Misdemeanor 1,2,3,4? Felony 1,2,3,4? I witness
speeding crimes every day. When I report them,
absolutely nothing happens.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

Fcc, and they do take their time prosecuting. But the fines are
going up so they may get more involved.