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John Smith March 29th 05 02:57 AM

May the truck which is carrying you toilet paper fail to arrive!!!! grin

Regards

--
Hay, if'n ya'll cun't konstructivly partecipete in this disscusion, haw
aboot speel-checkin it fer me?


"Russ" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 19:48:52 -0800, Justín Käse
wrote:

In posted on
Mon, 28 Mar 2005 03:30:37 GMT, Russ wrote:

Of course, as a ham, I also despise freebanders and hope they get
caught and fined - big time.


You'd rather them bootlegging in the ham bands?
Like a public toilet in the park, sure it's nasty, but better than
****ting everywhere, and some folk are gonna communicate no matter where
the end up doing it.


I've seen some non-sequitors in my time but this one is in the top
ten.

I'd rather they kept to the CB and 4 watts. I'd rather they didn't
use amps. I hope they get caught and fined out of business. I pray
that we as a nation can throw off the chains of corruption that have
us enslaved and I hope that the motor freight industry finally faces
traffic enforcement like all of the rest of us. The motor freight
industry is a waste of fuel and a hazard to other users of the public
roads.

Does that clarify my position?

Russ




cl March 29th 05 03:52 AM

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
May the truck which is carrying you toilet paper fail to arrive!!!! grin

Regards

--


Well, I hate to say it, but with the price of oil, some day that may happen.
IF SO, we'll have to resort back to what our Pioneer forefathers did when we
didn't have "toilet" paper. SO, there IS an answer to most any thing your
truck can do. OR fails to do.

cl



Mike Coslo March 29th 05 04:27 AM

wrote:
so what is more inportant in life not your hobby most people put there
radio hobby before,god and there family that is sad .they will drive all
night to go to a hamfest but when it comes time for a family event o i
cant make it heard it to many times on the radio waves.
so i guess the ups or fedex truck did not bring you that new hf rig so
next time you pick it up stop picking on truckers.


Truckers should be allowed to do anything they darn well please.

Tom Ring March 29th 05 05:00 AM

Mike Coslo wrote:

wrote:

so what is more inportant in life not your hobby most people put there
radio hobby before,god and there family that is sad .they will drive all
night to go to a hamfest but when it comes time for a family event o i
cant make it heard it to many times on the radio waves.
so i guess the ups or fedex truck did not bring you that new hf rig so
next time you pick it up stop picking on truckers.



Truckers should be allowed to do anything they darn well please.


Well, let's hope that the idiots they are continue to drive above the
speed limit, ignore safety laws, cook the books, and kill lots of
innocent citizens. They seem to like that life, and we, as normal
humans should not deny them it.

tom
K0TAR

Cecil Moore March 29th 05 05:25 AM

cl wrote:
"John Smith" wrote:
May the truck which is carrying you toilet paper fail to arrive!!!! grin


Well, I hate to say it, but with the price of oil, some day that may happen.
IF SO, we'll have to resort back to what our Pioneer forefathers did when we
didn't have "toilet" paper.


When I was a kid, we used corn cobs in the outhouse.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

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[email protected] March 29th 05 05:31 AM


John Smith wrote:
It is interesting that so many intend that you "design the world"

then cause
the people to fit the design; this is 180 degrees of what really
happens--people bend the world to fit themselves.


This does not compute.

For whatever reasons, some have seemed to have decided certain "rf

space"
fits them and, they are no small number, the truckers!


This barely computes.

While it might benefit some, if there were "radio police" to hunt

down every
trucker with a 500+ watt linear, who would pay for this? Would hams

accept
a 10000%+ increase in the cost of licenses to help fund such a force,


equipment and activities?


Wouldn't be needed. Hell, I'll do my part to hunt 10 of those
rf spectrum grabbing scumbags for *free*!


And, it is one thing to find a station running at a stationary
location--quite another when that station is mobile. However, those
enjoying such things would find one large and unending fox

hunt--reminiscent
of the old "cops and robbers game" one played as a child!


For the FCC, finding them, even in motion *is* childs play.


Imprisoning citizens for simple infractions of rules which are

causing no
one physical, monetary or real personal damage (i.e. amateurs are

only being
deprived of sole benefit of bandwidth for their hobby use) is

insane--you
have to wonder "what are these people thinking?"



I have to wonder...What in the hell are *you* thinking....

One very good example of this, and could be viewed as a model of what

would
happen if this were to occur might be "the war on drugs." We have

waged
this war for 30+ years--there are more drugs on the streets than

before we
began--and people are REALLY being harmed NOW as these criminals

attempt to
gain the money to obtain the drugs we have made so expensive and, to

escape
the penalties we have made so severe--INSANE! There is about the

same
amount of cocaine in a coca plant as sugar in a sugar cane. I can

walk into
a supermarket and buy 5 lbs of sugar for next to nothing! If that

were
cocaine, it would probably get everyone in a major city high, maybe

for
days! Since it is forced to the black market it most likely costs
millions!!! And, there seems an unlimited amount of addicts which

will maim,
harm or even kill citizens to gain this drug--INSANE!


Insane is relative...

There was a time when one special group of a few individuals could be


allowed to think themselves "special" and allowed to run a unique

"old boys
club." Times have changed. However, you are living in the past if

you don't
see the handwriting on the wall and, think you will be able to oppose

change
and evolution of the use of radio communications.


I can oppose anything I want to. And my henry will back me up
on this.

Some will personally attack me for pointing this all out-kill the

messenger
bearing the bad news-WAKE UP! Look around, you are either part of the


problem or you are part of the solution...


Oh yea, I could hunt you down and kick your whiny little ass,
but what the hell good would it do....You would just whine more
and say I didn't do a good enough job.


When you are done acting like a child and throwing your temper
tantrums-perhaps you will see the problem is still there to deal

with.

Temper tantrums? At least I don't advocate illegal use of
radio spectrum.
I think I'm totally through talking to you about anything,
because my mama told me not to talk to people that have total
**** for brains... MK


Free Band March 29th 05 09:07 AM

you think the feds will take ts 440 serious.


Jerry March 30th 05 07:06 PM


wrote in message
...
so what is more inportant in life not your hobby most people put there
radio hobby before,god and there family that is sad .they will drive all
night to go to a hamfest but when it comes time for a family event o i
cant make it heard it to many times on the radio waves.
so i guess the ups or fedex truck did not bring you that new hf rig so
next time you pick it up stop picking on truckers.


I, for one, am not picking on truckers. They have the SAME options the other
licensed hams have: study for and EARN the privilege of using radio. They
are, like every other citizen, are permitted by law, to operate a CB radio
with 40 channels and 4 watts. On any given day, most of those channels will
be reasonably quiet except for a very few. He may use any of those channels
for both finding loads/drop offs, or as recreation. He may NOT encroach on
other frequencies at will. If he does, he is liable for fines and even being
fired by his company. If you don't believe it, just email
and ASK! MANY trucking companies have been made aware of the 28 MHZ
incursions and have been VERY cooperative with FCC in stopping their drivers
from using "extree" channels--even going so far as to FIRE one or more for
it.

As for Amateur Radio, the bottom line reason for its existence IS emergency
communications. It is the number 1 backup to existing communications
services, and most
state and local EOC (Emergency Operations Coordinators) would not be caught
DEAD without an Amateur Radio presence in their planning. It even receives
Homeland Security funding for equipment and training. It also provides a
measure of innovation in communications technology and continues to evolve
in this manner. THAT , not "hobby" communications, is the reason for its
continuing existence. The "hobby" aspect is what leads to experimentation,
invention, and communications innovation.

Your assertions as to the basis and purpose for Amateur Radio show complete
ignorance of the applications of communications technology and come from an
obvious "CB Radio" mentality. Perhaps, it would be best if you stuck to
truck driving since your knowledge of communications is most surely
contained within the circumference of your steering wheel.
Like.............
not MUCH! :(

J




Jerry March 30th 05 07:19 PM


"H J" wrote in message
...
by the way if you wanna be a free trucker go with the best volvo lol i
will by a kw.or pete. next time i see you radio police cops
trying to get my tag number i may have to go to jail but i will make dam
shure that wil be your last number you get. just think 80.000lbs runing
you off the road


That's just it.............you will never know it Uh, until you get the
registered letter from Gettysburg, PA. "Dear sir, Evidence before the
Commission that you have been transmitting on 28.xxx MHZ. Please be advised
that such operation requires an FCC license. Penalties may be asessed of up
to $10,000 per occurance, or a year in jail.
You are requested to call me,..............., at 717-338-XXXX to discuss
this matter".

Then go ahead and ignore the letter.

(they don't HAVE to have your tag #)

J





Jerry March 30th 05 07:26 PM


"John Smith" wrote in message
...
I answer to a much higher power first, then to my fellow citizens who ARE
the gov't--I answer to no one else... I am your best friend when you are
in
trouble and seek someone to help you assure your unalienable rights--I
attempt to become your worst enemy if you are on the side of evil..

Regards



OH! So "evil" is what YOU say it is, right? Ergo, disobeying established
law--namely Title 47 US Code--is not "evil" according to YOU, right.

That US Code is crafted to protect ALL persons, including those who are
ignorant and untrained about radio, from massive interference. So "evil" is
the legal, licensed, well-established laws governing radio and the
unlicensed, trashing, and non-essential over-powered, over-modulated,
over-tweek and peaked chicken band radios are "good", right?

Yeah, Shurrrrrrrrrrr' it is. Shurrrrr' it is!


J


--
Hay, if'n ya'll cun't konstructivly partecipete in this disscusion, haw
aboot speel-checkin it fer me?


"Clarence_A" wrote in message
m...

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
While I don't support people who threaten harm to others,

neither do I
respect the "I am going to tell the teacher" types.


It is the duty of every citizen to report crime when it is
witnessed!
There is no teacher here, just the American Justice system!









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