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Old May 17th 05, 06:29 AM
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Here is a url to a page I put up--shows both a 1:1 and a 4:1 balun--winding
diagrams are below each, respectively...

Warmest regards,
John

"Jayson Davis" wrote in message
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I'd like to make a 1:1 balun, similar to what you'd buy from Van Gorden
Engineering. Anyone know of online designs/prints/instructions?

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Old May 17th 05, 08:22 AM
Ian White GM3SEK
 
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John Smith wrote:
Here is a url to a page I put up--shows both a 1:1 and a 4:1
balun--winding diagrams are below each, respectively...

Don't bother to look - they are both voltage baluns.

(And the drawings have been scanned from someone else's copyright
material.)


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73 from Ian GM3SEK 'In Practice' columnist for RadCom (RSGB)
http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek
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Old May 17th 05, 08:52 AM
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.... as a matter of fact, they are scanned from "copyright expired"
material... I took the time to bring everyone up to speed on copyright
here... and even to know the difference between expired and not... for some
strange reason some have difficulty dealing with this...

He is correct about it being a voltage balun, which I believe is what you
first asked about, at least that is what the balun you referenced looked
like to me--I make mistakes and could have been mistaken... however, there
is also a post from me in this thead on the current balun you can use...
when you read my post on the quick-start on the differences for
voltage/current baluns you can decide for yourself--on what you need...
baluns are a very simple thing, don't know why so much mystery wants to end
up wrapped about 'em...

Warmest regards,
John

"Ian White GM3SEK" wrote in message
...
John Smith wrote:
Here is a url to a page I put up--shows both a 1:1 and a 4:1
balun--winding diagrams are below each, respectively...

Don't bother to look - they are both voltage baluns.

(And the drawings have been scanned from someone else's copyright
material.)


--
73 from Ian GM3SEK 'In Practice' columnist for RadCom (RSGB)
http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek



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Old May 17th 05, 10:23 AM
Ian White GM3SEK
 
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John Smith wrote:
... as a matter of fact, they are scanned from "copyright expired"
material...


If so, then I apologise. But...

He is correct about it being a voltage balun, which I believe is what you
first asked about, at least that is what the balun you referenced looked
like to me--I make mistakes and could have been mistaken... however, there
is also a post from me in this thead on the current balun you can use...
when you read my post on the quick-start on the differences for
voltage/current baluns you can decide for yourself--on what you need...
baluns are a very simple thing, don't know why so much mystery wants to end
up wrapped about 'em...


Might it possibly be because people persist in copying and
re-re-re-publishing old, incorrect information?


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73 from Ian GM3SEK 'In Practice' columnist for RadCom (RSGB)
http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek
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Old May 17th 05, 01:03 PM
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Dear "John Smith"
The probability that you copied works that were not covered by copyright
is minuscule. For such a work not to be covered by copyright it would have
had to be declared in the public domain by the author or publisher.

Here is a link to the Copyright Office that provides some authoritative
information about low long copyright protection lasts:
http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ1.html#hlc

Having expressed disdain for lawyers, it is unlikely that you are a
lawyer, whatever and whoever you are. The Patent Office lists three patent
attorneys with the name of John Smith. I doubt that you are one of them.

When you copy works that are almost surely copyrighted and provide no
attribution, you encourage persons with an interest in the works to track
you down. Not wise.

Mac N8TT

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Home:
"John Smith" wrote in message
...
... as a matter of fact, they are scanned from "copyright expired"
material... I took the time to bring everyone up to speed on copyright
here... and even to know the difference between expired and not... for

some
strange reason some have difficulty dealing with this...

He is correct about it being a voltage balun, which I believe is what you
first asked about, at least that is what the balun you referenced looked
like to me--I make mistakes and could have been mistaken... however, there
is also a post from me in this thead on the current balun you can use...
when you read my post on the quick-start on the differences for
voltage/current baluns you can decide for yourself--on what you need...
baluns are a very simple thing, don't know why so much mystery wants to

end
up wrapped about 'em...

Warmest regards,
John

"Ian White GM3SEK" wrote in message
...
John Smith wrote:
Here is a url to a page I put up--shows both a 1:1 and a 4:1
balun--winding diagrams are below each, respectively...

Don't bother to look - they are both voltage baluns.

(And the drawings have been scanned from someone else's copyright
material.)


--
73 from Ian GM3SEK 'In Practice' columnist for RadCom (RSGB)
http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek






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Old May 17th 05, 03:18 PM
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Well, nice of you to worry about me copying, copyrighted work and suffering
a penality, but let me worry about that... and MOST technical docs have
fallen to public domain QUICKLY--especially this stuff which was cutting
edge technology--when my grandfather was a boy...

There is also "fair use", you may want to read up on it... since the
drawing I pasted here is less than a page (much less) it OBIVIOUSLY would
fall under this--and I would be covered yet again...

Most importantly is the necessity to get facts and info into the hands
needing it, in a form which they can understand--in a manner which does not
chase them off.. something I DON'T see happening here.

Warmest regards,
John
"J. Mc Laughlin" wrote in message
...
Dear "John Smith"
The probability that you copied works that were not covered by
copyright
is minuscule. For such a work not to be covered by copyright it would
have
had to be declared in the public domain by the author or publisher.

Here is a link to the Copyright Office that provides some authoritative
information about low long copyright protection lasts:
http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ1.html#hlc

Having expressed disdain for lawyers, it is unlikely that you are a
lawyer, whatever and whoever you are. The Patent Office lists three
patent
attorneys with the name of John Smith. I doubt that you are one of them.

When you copy works that are almost surely copyrighted and provide no
attribution, you encourage persons with an interest in the works to track
you down. Not wise.

Mac N8TT

--
J. Mc Laughlin; Michigan U.S.A.
Home:
"John Smith" wrote in message
...
... as a matter of fact, they are scanned from "copyright expired"
material... I took the time to bring everyone up to speed on copyright
here... and even to know the difference between expired and not... for

some
strange reason some have difficulty dealing with this...

He is correct about it being a voltage balun, which I believe is what you
first asked about, at least that is what the balun you referenced looked
like to me--I make mistakes and could have been mistaken... however,
there
is also a post from me in this thead on the current balun you can use...
when you read my post on the quick-start on the differences for
voltage/current baluns you can decide for yourself--on what you need...
baluns are a very simple thing, don't know why so much mystery wants to

end
up wrapped about 'em...

Warmest regards,
John

"Ian White GM3SEK" wrote in message
...
John Smith wrote:
Here is a url to a page I put up--shows both a 1:1 and a 4:1
balun--winding diagrams are below each, respectively...

Don't bother to look - they are both voltage baluns.

(And the drawings have been scanned from someone else's copyright
material.)


--
73 from Ian GM3SEK 'In Practice' columnist for RadCom (RSGB)
http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek






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Old May 17th 05, 08:55 PM
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Dear "John Smith"
Fair-use is one of the most complex parts of the law. I have studied it
and applied it for more many years than you have been a poseur. It has
certainly caused considerable amusement among the knowledgeable people in
this group to read you suggesting that I read up on the subject.

Your pretending to practice law would only be amusing if it were not
that some reading what you write might believe you. You copy. You claim it
is protected under the doctrine of fair-use and yet you provide no
attribution nor context that could support fair-use. That is old fashion
plagiarizing.

You then start to argue that such theft is for the good of the
recipient. All that can be said is that you must have had a mother, and she
would be ashamed. Mac N8TT

--
J. Mc Laughlin; Michigan U.S.A.
Home:
"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Well, nice of you to worry about me copying, copyrighted work and

suffering
a penality, but let me worry about that... and MOST technical docs have
fallen to public domain QUICKLY--especially this stuff which was cutting
edge technology--when my grandfather was a boy...

There is also "fair use", you may want to read up on it... since the
drawing I pasted here is less than a page (much less) it OBIVIOUSLY would
fall under this--and I would be covered yet again...

Most importantly is the necessity to get facts and info into the hands
needing it, in a form which they can understand--in a manner which does

not
chase them off.. something I DON'T see happening here.

Warmest regards,
John
"J. Mc Laughlin" wrote in message
...
Dear "John Smith"
The probability that you copied works that were not covered by
copyright
is minuscule. For such a work not to be covered by copyright it would
have
had to be declared in the public domain by the author or publisher.

Here is a link to the Copyright Office that provides some

authoritative
information about low long copyright protection lasts:
http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ1.html#hlc

Having expressed disdain for lawyers, it is unlikely that you are a
lawyer, whatever and whoever you are. The Patent Office lists three
patent
attorneys with the name of John Smith. I doubt that you are one of

them.

When you copy works that are almost surely copyrighted and provide no
attribution, you encourage persons with an interest in the works to

track
you down. Not wise.

Mac N8TT

--
J. Mc Laughlin; Michigan U.S.A.
Home:
"John Smith" wrote in message
...
... as a matter of fact, they are scanned from "copyright expired"
material... I took the time to bring everyone up to speed on copyright
here... and even to know the difference between expired and not... for

some
strange reason some have difficulty dealing with this...

He is correct about it being a voltage balun, which I believe is what

you
first asked about, at least that is what the balun you referenced

looked
like to me--I make mistakes and could have been mistaken... however,
there
is also a post from me in this thead on the current balun you can

use...
when you read my post on the quick-start on the differences for
voltage/current baluns you can decide for yourself--on what you need...
baluns are a very simple thing, don't know why so much mystery wants to

end
up wrapped about 'em...

Warmest regards,
John

"Ian White GM3SEK" wrote in message
...
John Smith wrote:
Here is a url to a page I put up--shows both a 1:1 and a 4:1
balun--winding diagrams are below each, respectively...

Don't bother to look - they are both voltage baluns.

(And the drawings have been scanned from someone else's copyright
material.)


--
73 from Ian GM3SEK 'In Practice' columnist for RadCom (RSGB)
http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek








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Old May 18th 05, 04:08 AM
John Smith
 
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J. McLaughlin:

Let us be friends, I shall take the risk, time for me to share what little I
have--my years dwindle at a speed I find frightening--I choose to help
someone get a step upon this ladder--even if you should threaten me with
death itself... I choose the same...

Warmest regards,
John
"J. Mc Laughlin" wrote in message
...
Dear "John Smith"
Fair-use is one of the most complex parts of the law. I have studied
it
and applied it for more many years than you have been a poseur. It has
certainly caused considerable amusement among the knowledgeable people in
this group to read you suggesting that I read up on the subject.

Your pretending to practice law would only be amusing if it were not
that some reading what you write might believe you. You copy. You claim
it
is protected under the doctrine of fair-use and yet you provide no
attribution nor context that could support fair-use. That is old fashion
plagiarizing.

You then start to argue that such theft is for the good of the
recipient. All that can be said is that you must have had a mother, and
she
would be ashamed. Mac N8TT

--
J. Mc Laughlin; Michigan U.S.A.
Home:
"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Well, nice of you to worry about me copying, copyrighted work and

suffering
a penality, but let me worry about that... and MOST technical docs have
fallen to public domain QUICKLY--especially this stuff which was cutting
edge technology--when my grandfather was a boy...

There is also "fair use", you may want to read up on it... since the
drawing I pasted here is less than a page (much less) it OBIVIOUSLY would
fall under this--and I would be covered yet again...

Most importantly is the necessity to get facts and info into the hands
needing it, in a form which they can understand--in a manner which does

not
chase them off.. something I DON'T see happening here.

Warmest regards,
John
"J. Mc Laughlin" wrote in message
...
Dear "John Smith"
The probability that you copied works that were not covered by
copyright
is minuscule. For such a work not to be covered by copyright it would
have
had to be declared in the public domain by the author or publisher.

Here is a link to the Copyright Office that provides some

authoritative
information about low long copyright protection lasts:
http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ1.html#hlc

Having expressed disdain for lawyers, it is unlikely that you are a
lawyer, whatever and whoever you are. The Patent Office lists three
patent
attorneys with the name of John Smith. I doubt that you are one of

them.

When you copy works that are almost surely copyrighted and provide
no
attribution, you encourage persons with an interest in the works to

track
you down. Not wise.

Mac N8TT

--
J. Mc Laughlin; Michigan U.S.A.
Home:
"John Smith" wrote in message
...
... as a matter of fact, they are scanned from "copyright expired"
material... I took the time to bring everyone up to speed on
copyright
here... and even to know the difference between expired and not...
for
some
strange reason some have difficulty dealing with this...

He is correct about it being a voltage balun, which I believe is what

you
first asked about, at least that is what the balun you referenced

looked
like to me--I make mistakes and could have been mistaken... however,
there
is also a post from me in this thead on the current balun you can

use...
when you read my post on the quick-start on the differences for
voltage/current baluns you can decide for yourself--on what you
need...
baluns are a very simple thing, don't know why so much mystery wants
to
end
up wrapped about 'em...

Warmest regards,
John

"Ian White GM3SEK" wrote in message
...
John Smith wrote:
Here is a url to a page I put up--shows both a 1:1 and a 4:1
balun--winding diagrams are below each, respectively...

Don't bother to look - they are both voltage baluns.

(And the drawings have been scanned from someone else's copyright
material.)


--
73 from Ian GM3SEK 'In Practice' columnist for RadCom (RSGB)
http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek










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Old May 20th 05, 03:33 AM
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I "practice" nothing... I simply do, watch me...

Warmest regards,
John

"J. Mc Laughlin" wrote in message
...
Dear "John Smith"
Fair-use is one of the most complex parts of the law. I have studied
it
and applied it for more many years than you have been a poseur. It has
certainly caused considerable amusement among the knowledgeable people in
this group to read you suggesting that I read up on the subject.

Your pretending to practice law would only be amusing if it were not
that some reading what you write might believe you. You copy. You claim
it
is protected under the doctrine of fair-use and yet you provide no
attribution nor context that could support fair-use. That is old fashion
plagiarizing.

You then start to argue that such theft is for the good of the
recipient. All that can be said is that you must have had a mother, and
she
would be ashamed. Mac N8TT

--
J. Mc Laughlin; Michigan U.S.A.
Home:
"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Well, nice of you to worry about me copying, copyrighted work and

suffering
a penality, but let me worry about that... and MOST technical docs have
fallen to public domain QUICKLY--especially this stuff which was cutting
edge technology--when my grandfather was a boy...

There is also "fair use", you may want to read up on it... since the
drawing I pasted here is less than a page (much less) it OBIVIOUSLY would
fall under this--and I would be covered yet again...

Most importantly is the necessity to get facts and info into the hands
needing it, in a form which they can understand--in a manner which does

not
chase them off.. something I DON'T see happening here.

Warmest regards,
John
"J. Mc Laughlin" wrote in message
...
Dear "John Smith"
The probability that you copied works that were not covered by
copyright
is minuscule. For such a work not to be covered by copyright it would
have
had to be declared in the public domain by the author or publisher.

Here is a link to the Copyright Office that provides some

authoritative
information about low long copyright protection lasts:
http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ1.html#hlc

Having expressed disdain for lawyers, it is unlikely that you are a
lawyer, whatever and whoever you are. The Patent Office lists three
patent
attorneys with the name of John Smith. I doubt that you are one of

them.

When you copy works that are almost surely copyrighted and provide
no
attribution, you encourage persons with an interest in the works to

track
you down. Not wise.

Mac N8TT

--
J. Mc Laughlin; Michigan U.S.A.
Home:
"John Smith" wrote in message
...
... as a matter of fact, they are scanned from "copyright expired"
material... I took the time to bring everyone up to speed on
copyright
here... and even to know the difference between expired and not...
for
some
strange reason some have difficulty dealing with this...

He is correct about it being a voltage balun, which I believe is what

you
first asked about, at least that is what the balun you referenced

looked
like to me--I make mistakes and could have been mistaken... however,
there
is also a post from me in this thead on the current balun you can

use...
when you read my post on the quick-start on the differences for
voltage/current baluns you can decide for yourself--on what you
need...
baluns are a very simple thing, don't know why so much mystery wants
to
end
up wrapped about 'em...

Warmest regards,
John

"Ian White GM3SEK" wrote in message
...
John Smith wrote:
Here is a url to a page I put up--shows both a 1:1 and a 4:1
balun--winding diagrams are below each, respectively...

Don't bother to look - they are both voltage baluns.

(And the drawings have been scanned from someone else's copyright
material.)


--
73 from Ian GM3SEK 'In Practice' columnist for RadCom (RSGB)
http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek










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Old May 17th 05, 09:24 PM
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John Smith wrote:

| Well, nice of you to worry about me copying, copyrighted work and suffering
| a penality, but let me worry about that... and MOST technical docs have
| fallen to public domain QUICKLY--especially this stuff which was cutting
| edge technology--when my grandfather was a boy...

How do you define QUICKLY?

I don't doubt that stuff that was written when your grandfather was a
boy has become public domain, but the process is certainly not quick
now.

http://www.unc.edu/~unclng/public-d.htm may be of some assistance.
Right now, things created today fall (involuntarily) into the public
domain in 70 years AT THE MINIMUM, and that may go up if Disney buys
another extension from Congress.

--
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