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Cecil Moore wrote:
Tom Donaly wrote: Cecil's ability to add powers together, which he did in this instance, isn't anything unique, and doesn't really teach anything about the general case. I'm glad you agree, Tom. Other experts on this newsgroup will argue with you as they have with me for four years ever since Dr. Best posted his infamous Z0-match equation: Ptot = 75w + 8.33w = 133.33w to which I objected back then, only to have most of the rest of the posters agree with Dr. Best. I was dumbfounded to see so many otherwise knowledgable engineers agree to a violation of the principle of conservation of energy. I was told not to worry about conservation of energy - that it takes care of itself. In fact, for a quarter wave transformer, you can do the following trick: compute the value of the power as it just comes through the impedance discontinuity for the first time and call it Pa. Call Rho^2 at the load P. Then the power delivered to the load will be Pa( 1 + P + P^2 + P^3 + P^4 ....) which looks the same as if the power reflection coefficient looking back toward the generator was 1 and the power at the load was the result of the addition of an infinite number of reflections. Such an interpretation, though, can be shown to be absolutely wrong. Can anyone see why? Destructive interference between the external reflection at the match point and the internal reflection from the load supplies additional constructive interference energy to the forward wave in the quarter wave transformer. You didn't include that constructive interference energy above. Hint: That virtual power reflection coefficient looking rearward into the match point doesn't reach 1 until steady- state is reached (wrong premise above). The virtual power reflection coefficient looking forward into the match point also doesn't reach 0 until steady-state is reached. Those two virtual power reflection coefficients actually start out the same value and proceed in opposite directions during the transient buildup to steady-state. Hi Cecil, you come up with the right answer, but is your interpretation correct? Can you do the same thing in a general sense? If there is no Z0 match between the two transmission lines, does your method still work? The little conundrum I posed is an example of a procedure that will actually give the right answer, but the interpretation I gave of how it works is wrong. Can you be sure your method doesn't have the same flaw? 73, Tom Donaly, KA6RUH (P.S. The method of using V and I and the junction of the two xmission lines to find the forward and reverse powers on a transmission line doesn't prove the powers exist. It works just as easily with a pair of resistors and is more an algebraic stunt that works than anything else. It does agree with you, however.) |
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