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![]() "Harry" wrote I know that a half-wave dipole in free space has a feed-point impedance of approximately 73 ohms. Can anyone tell me **exactly** how this number is calculated. ======================================= There's no such value as 'exact'. All you have to do is integrate the power flowing outwards from a dipole at the centre of an arbitrary sphere with a surface area of x square metres and equate it to the current flowing in the dipole, taking into account the distribution of current along the dipole, and you will obtain the radiation resistance referred to its feedpont. OK? But in your case, all you can do is just accept the hearsay value of 73 ohms as being good enough. Actually it depends on the diameter of the dipole relative to its length and at HF it is a few percent less. Not that anybody ever notices such minor discrepancies. ---- Reg, G4FGQ |
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Hi Tim and Reg,
Thank you for your valuable information. Is there any website or textbook that actually shows the step-by-step calculation of this magic number which has been quoted so often in the cable industry? You know most video cables and connectors have characteristic impedance, 75 Ohms. I am not afraid of math. I just like to understand the details of its derivation. -- Harry |
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Harry wrote:
Hi Tim and Reg, Thank you for your valuable information. Is there any website or textbook that actually shows the step-by-step calculation of this magic number which has been quoted so often in the cable industry? You know most video cables and connectors have characteristic impedance, 75 Ohms. I am not afraid of math. I just like to understand the details of its derivation. -- Harry What you're seeking is in the book _Antenna Theory, Analysis and Design_ by Constantine A. Balanis, ISBN 0-471-59268-4. 73, Tom Donaly, KA6RUH |
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Transmission line calculations are much easier than antenna calculations.
To a first approximation: Zo = SQRT(L/C); where L = inductance per unit length, and C = capacitance per unit length. Harry wrote: Hi Tim and Reg, Thank you for your valuable information. Is there any website or textbook that actually shows the step-by-step calculation of this magic number which has been quoted so often in the cable industry? You know most video cables and connectors have characteristic impedance, 75 Ohms. I am not afraid of math. I just like to understand the details of its derivation. -- Harry |
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![]() "Ham op" wrote Transmission line calculations are much easier than antenna calculations. ===================================== Antenna conductors ARE transmission lines and the same sort of calculations apply. ---- Reg. |
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Reg Edwards wrote:
Antenna conductors ARE transmission lines and the same sort of calculations apply. You're right, Reg. Without reflections from the ends of a dipole, the feedpoint impedance would be hundreds of ohms. A standing wave antenna is like a lossy transmission line where the loss is to radiation. And the SWR on a 1/2WL dipole standing wave antenna is quite high - in the neighborhood of 20:1. -- 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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In message , Cecil Moore
writes Reg Edwards wrote: Antenna conductors ARE transmission lines and the same sort of calculations apply. You're right, Reg. Without reflections from the ends of a dipole, the feedpoint impedance would be hundreds of ohms. A standing wave antenna is like a lossy transmission line where the loss is to radiation. And the SWR on a 1/2WL dipole standing wave antenna is quite high - in the neighborhood of 20:1. Just a quick question. What is the impedance at the centre of an infinitely long dipole (in free space)? Ian. -- |
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Ian Jackson wrote:
Just a quick question. What is the impedance at the centre of an infinitely long dipole (in free space)? Same as a terminated dipole in an anechoic chamber? 600-800 ohms? -- 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Ian Jackson wrote:
"What is the impedance at the centre of an infinitely long dipole in free space? It is the antenna`s Zo. This depends on the size of the conductor used to make the dipoole. Arnold B. Bailey has already worked all this out and presents it in his 1950 edition from Rider`s of "TV and Other Receiving Antennas". Like the Zo of a transmission line, antenna Zo has nothing to do with reflections and terminations. When you first apply power, energy must flow into the antenna at some definite voltage to current ratio. This is the surge impedance or Zo. If the antenna or line is uniform and infinitely long, the energy sent away is never heard from again. Zo is the only impedance anywhere. Page 345 gives the surge impedance in ohms for a balanced antenna as: Zo = 276 log 1/P P is the circumference of the antenna rod, or periphery, expressed as a fraction of the free-space wavelength (see page 342) This may sound goofy but Bailey has his reasons. Bailey`s graph on page 345 gives dipole impedances from 70 ohms to 680 ohms for rod peripheries from 1 wavelength down to 0.00001 wavelength If you have no reflections or standing waves, the impedance you calculate should be the Zo. Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI |
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Harry wrote:
Thank you for your valuable information. Is there any website or textbook that actually shows the step-by-step calculation of this magic number which has been quoted so often in the cable industry? "Antenna Theory" by Balanis, second edition, Chapter 4. -- 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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