"aRKay" wrote in message
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wrote:

The ringo ranger is vertical and most 6m stuff is horizontal. On skip
that may not hurt but for local it's very poor.

Allison
KB1GMX

Good response. I will not waste time messing with the old Ringo Ranger.

Don't give up on the vertical too quickly. I use both a 6 meter dipole and a
6 meter J-pole, 90% of my 6 meter contacts have been with the J-pole. Some
of the more experienced Hams of my acquaintance have told me that DX sort of
works outside of the normal vertical/horizontal polarization expectation. I
rarely have any occasion for a local 6 meter
contact. so am not able to speak about that aspect of the 6 meter band.

Harold
KD5SAK

In article ,
"Harold Burton" wrote:

"aRKay" wrote in message
...
In article ,
wrote:

The ringo ranger is vertical and most 6m stuff is horizontal. On skip
that may not hurt but for local it's very poor.

Allison
KB1GMX

Good response. I will not waste time messing with the old Ringo Ranger.

Don't give up on the vertical too quickly. I use both a 6 meter dipole and a
6 meter J-pole, 90% of my 6 meter contacts have been with the J-pole. Some
of the more experienced Hams of my acquaintance have told me that DX sort of
works outside of the normal vertical/horizontal polarization expectation. I
rarely have any occasion for a local 6 meter
contact. so am not able to speak about that aspect of the 6 meter band.

Harold
KD5SAK

Thanks Harold. I forgot about the J-pole and I may try one while
playing around with the new stuff.

Dick - AA5VU

On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 23:18:03 -0500, "Harold Burton"
wrote:


"aRKay" wrote in message
...
In article ,
wrote:

The ringo ranger is vertical and most 6m stuff is horizontal. On skip
that may not hurt but for local it's very poor.

Allison
KB1GMX

Good response. I will not waste time messing with the old Ringo Ranger.

Don't give up on the vertical too quickly. I use both a 6 meter dipole and a
6 meter J-pole, 90% of my 6 meter contacts have been with the J-pole. Some
of the more experienced Hams of my acquaintance have told me that DX sort of
works outside of the normal vertical/horizontal polarization expectation. I
rarely have any occasion for a local 6 meter
contact. so am not able to speak about that aspect of the 6 meter band.

Harold
KD5SAK

Experience is that my vertical beam hears far less DX than the
horizontal. Occasionally I hear DX on the Vertical that is better
but on confirming the other end is also vertical. So it goes.
I do have vertical for those times where it may help. One thing I do
notice is the noise level of the vertical beam is far worse.

For local use the horizontal is usually 2-3 Sunits higher than the
vertical.

Allison
KB1GMX

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Occasionally I hear DX on the Vertical that is better
but on confirming the other end is also vertical. So it goes.
I do have vertical for those times where it may help. One thing I do
notice is the noise level of the vertical beam is far worse.

For local use the horizontal is usually 2-3 Sunits higher than the
vertical.

Allison
KB1GMX

Before somebody tells you that polarization is unimportant for a skip
signal, your 6 meter observations parallel what I found on 40. I had a 40
dipole and 40 GP vertical. In round table test with stations 400 - 800 miles
away, people with verticals preferred my vertical, and people with dipoles
preferred my dipole. There were a few people who could not tell the
difference.

Tam/WB2TT