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Old October 3rd 05, 08:54 PM
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On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 12:01:14 -0400, Fred W4JLE wrote:

In that case, simply modify the sign to "Tune to 560, it could save your
life" and use a discrete frequency low power transmitter.


I assume you mean to take up an unused local channel? Or to bargain for
time on a used one?

Both ideas make sense.
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Old October 3rd 05, 10:47 PM
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"Ari Silversteinn" wrote in message
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On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 12:01:14 -0400, Fred W4JLE wrote:

In that case, simply modify the sign to "Tune to 560, it could save your
life" and use a discrete frequency low power transmitter.


I assume you mean to take up an unused local channel? Or to bargain for
time on a used one?

Both ideas make sense.
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if this is for real time notification you don't have time to bargain or to
find an unused channel... and who would listen to you anyway if it was
unused? how often do you turn the knob on your car radio??

what about the emergency broadcast system? that would seem to be the
'proper' method of emergency notification, its already set up for all sorts
of local, regional, and national notifications.


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Old October 4th 05, 04:30 PM
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"Ari Silversteinn" wrote in message
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On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 12:01:14 -0400, Fred W4JLE wrote:

In that case, simply modify the sign to "Tune to 560, it could save your
life" and use a discrete frequency low power transmitter.


I assume you mean to take up an unused local channel? Or to bargain for
time on a used one?

Both ideas make sense.
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On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 21:47:29 -0000, Dave wrote:

if this is for real time notification you don't have time to bargain or to
find an unused channel... and who would listen to you anyway if it was
unused? how often do you turn the knob on your car radio??


Often actually and I agree about the unused channel, at first blush

what about the emergency broadcast system? that would seem to be the
'proper' method of emergency notification, its already set up for all sorts
of local, regional, and national notifications.


The EBS is voluntary, this is not.
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Old October 3rd 05, 10:58 PM
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There are a couple of frequiencies for unlicensed low power am stations. You
can see them in use by real estate folks selling houses. There are no
commercial stations on the frequency.

"Ari Silversteinn" wrote in message
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On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 12:01:14 -0400, Fred W4JLE wrote:

In that case, simply modify the sign to "Tune to 560, it could save your
life" and use a discrete frequency low power transmitter.


I assume you mean to take up an unused local channel? Or to bargain for
time on a used one?

Both ideas make sense.
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Old October 4th 05, 04:31 PM
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On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 17:58:33 -0400, Fred W4JLE wrote:

There are a couple of frequiencies for unlicensed low power am stations. You
can see them in use by real estate folks selling houses. There are no
commercial stations on the frequency.


Yes, and at Disney World, etc. This is a very doable idea and may well
solve FCC/DoD issues.
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Old October 4th 05, 08:07 PM
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"Ari Silversteinn" wrote in message
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On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 17:58:33 -0400, Fred W4JLE wrote:

There are a couple of frequiencies for unlicensed low power am stations.
You
can see them in use by real estate folks selling houses. There are no
commercial stations on the frequency.


Yes, and at Disney World, etc. This is a very doable idea and may well
solve FCC/DoD issues.
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When was the last time you listened to one of those frequencies? It won't
get the message out where it's needed.

Ken


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Old October 4th 05, 08:17 PM
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I can't find the part of the FCC regs that provide these frequencies for
unlicensed stations. Can anybody share the chapter and verse?

Jim


There are a couple of frequiencies for unlicensed low power am stations.
You
can see them in use by real estate folks selling houses. There are no
commercial stations on the frequency.


Yes, and at Disney World, etc. This is a very doable idea and may well
solve FCC/DoD issues.



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Old October 4th 05, 09:09 PM
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It can be found under the section that allows a transmitter as long as it is
less than some number of milliwatts per meter.

If you really need the exact section, I will drag out the regs and get it
for you.

"RST Engineering" wrote in message
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I can't find the part of the FCC regs that provide these frequencies for
unlicensed stations. Can anybody share the chapter and verse?

Jim


There are a couple of frequiencies for unlicensed low power am

stations.
You
can see them in use by real estate folks selling houses. There are no
commercial stations on the frequency.

Yes, and at Disney World, etc. This is a very doable idea and may well
solve FCC/DoD issues.





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Old October 4th 05, 09:51 PM
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That is part 15 and it isn't just a couple of frequencies, it is any
frequency in the AM broadcast band (and the FM broadcast band, for that
matter).

Specifically, 15.219 allows operation on any frequency in the band so long
as (a) the input power to the final stage is less than 100 mW and (b) the
antenna "system" (radiating element, coax, and ground lead) is less than 3
meters long.

15.221 also allows operation with an unspecified power level into leaky coax
with a field strength limitation.

Power is not milliwatts per meter. Power is milliwatts. Field strength
(also an allowed measurement) is in volts per meter.

The OP said that there were a "couple of frequiencies(sic)for unlicensed low
power am(sic) stations." That implied that there were a couple of
frequencies that were unused in the AM band by commercial stations, and I
just wanted to have a reference to WHAT they were and WHERE in the regs they
were delineated.


Jim



"Fred W4JLE" wrote in message
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It can be found under the section that allows a transmitter as long as it
is
less than some number of milliwatts per meter.

If you really need the exact section, I will drag out the regs and get it
for you.

"RST Engineering" wrote in message
...
I can't find the part of the FCC regs that provide these frequencies for
unlicensed stations. Can anybody share the chapter and verse?

Jim


There are a couple of frequiencies for unlicensed low power am

stations.
You
can see them in use by real estate folks selling houses. There are no
commercial stations on the frequency.

Yes, and at Disney World, etc. This is a very doable idea and may well
solve FCC/DoD issues.







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Old October 4th 05, 11:35 PM
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On Tue, 4 Oct 2005 16:09:19 -0400, Fred W4JLE wrote:

It can be found under the section that allows a transmitter as long as it is
less than some number of milliwatts per meter.

If you really need the exact section, I will drag out the regs and get it
for you.


Does this fall under LPFM/LPAM?
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