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Aluminum tubing?
Hello Everyone:
I have tried all the local metal suppliers and several in the Chicago area to get 6061-T6 aluminum tubing from in very specific sizes. I need to get two pieces of 1.00 inch OD with a wall thickness of 0.058 inch that are twelve feet long. I also need to get four pieces of 7/8 inch OD by 0.049 inch wall that are twelve feet long. Nobody that I spoke with stocks these items. Some of the big name suppliers were down right nasty about me wanting this small quantity of pieces. Where would one go to get these pieces that I need to get for some antenna projects that I want to build soon? And not pay an arm and a leg for the privilege of owning this rare and unobtainable material. Allan Butler ka0ies ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 20:27:02 -0500, Allan Butler
wrote: Where would one go to get these pieces that I need to get for some antenna projects that I want to build soon? And not pay an arm and a leg for the privilege of owning this rare and unobtainable material. Try he http://www.texastowers.com/aluminum.htm Danny, K6MHE email: k6mheatarrldotnet http://users.adelphia.net/~k6mhe/ |
Allan Butler wrote:
Hello Everyone: I have tried all the local metal suppliers and several in the Chicago area to get 6061-T6 aluminum tubing from in very specific sizes. I need to get two pieces of 1.00 inch OD with a wall thickness of 0.058 inch that are twelve feet long. I also need to get four pieces of 7/8 inch OD by 0.049 inch wall that are twelve feet long. Nobody that I spoke with stocks these items. Some of the big name suppliers were down right nasty about me wanting this small quantity of pieces. Where would one go to get these pieces that I need to get for some antenna projects that I want to build soon? And not pay an arm and a leg for the privilege of owning this rare and unobtainable material. Allan Butler ka0ies ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- Try asking on rec.crafts.metalworking. I _think_ the one to go to is http://www.metalexpress.net, but I've never ordered from there. There's got to be scrap metal yards in Chicago, where you may be able to find one or the other pieces. If the sizes are truely oddball then you may be asking folks to order a lot of something they'll never sell, or (heaven forbid) have made up. -- Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services http://www.wescottdesign.com |
Allan Butler wrote:
Where would one go to get these pieces that I need to get for some antenna projects that I want to build soon? And not pay an arm and a leg for the privilege of owning this rare and unobtainable material. I get mine from TexasTowers.com -- 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp |
hi allan,
http://www.mcmaster.com great online catalog, they got everything even the kitchen sinks ! they even have local pickup if there is one in your area to save on the truck fees. how about ebay, lots of tubing online, I got some nice 6063 (higher corrosion resistance) ..5 od from a guy in california. Problem will be the ship fees, 12' is by truck. Got to be a local place that has it. 73 tube guy |
I generally go about this sort of project from a different approach.
First identify the parts that are difficult and address them first. In this case, I would determine what materials are available to me at a price, quality and location that I could live with. Then I would plan around the materials. You are more likely to find usable materials in smaller quantities from fabricators than from distributors. Pricing can vary a lot with aluminum because the scrap price is a long ways from junk. People in the antenna business are a good start. Fabricators of irrigation systems are another source. The length of the tubing will have an effect on its price. 12 foot lengths will cost more per foot than 8 foot lengths in many cases. Sometimes 20 foot lengths will be the norm for some stock. Sometimes it is worthwhile to buy a commercial product and modify it to your needs! On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 20:27:02 -0500, Allan Butler wrote: Hello Everyone: I have tried all the local metal suppliers and several in the Chicago area to get 6061-T6 aluminum tubing from in very specific sizes. I need to get two pieces of 1.00 inch OD with a wall thickness of 0.058 inch that are twelve feet long. I also need to get four pieces of 7/8 inch OD by 0.049 inch wall that are twelve feet long. Nobody that I spoke with stocks these items. Some of the big name suppliers were down right nasty about me wanting this small quantity of pieces. Where would one go to get these pieces that I need to get for some antenna projects that I want to build soon? And not pay an arm and a leg for the privilege of owning this rare and unobtainable material. Allan Butler ka0ies ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 20:27:02 -0500, Allan Butler
wrote: I have tried all the local metal suppliers and several in the Chicago area to get 6061-T6 aluminum tubing from in very specific sizes. I need to ^^^^^^^^ Why do you guys in the US always omit the "i" in aluminium ? Alsao why a car tire instead of tyre? Just asking ;-) Peter, G3PHO |
Because it's ALUMINUM!!!
Tyre is an ancient biblical city. Tire is that round thingee between my automobile and the road surface. Peter wrote: On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 20:27:02 -0500, Allan Butler wrote: I have tried all the local metal suppliers and several in the Chicago area to get 6061-T6 aluminum tubing from in very specific sizes. I need to ^^^^^^^^ Why do you guys in the US always omit the "i" in aluminium ? Alsao why a car tire instead of tyre? Just asking ;-) Peter, G3PHO |
Also, why do we say tube rather than valve?
"Peter" wrote in message ... On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 20:27:02 -0500, Allan Butler wrote: I have tried all the local metal suppliers and several in the Chicago area to get 6061-T6 aluminum tubing from in very specific sizes. I need to ^^^^^^^^ Why do you guys in the US always omit the "i" in aluminium ? Alsao why a car tire instead of tyre? Just asking ;-) Peter, G3PHO |
And being even further OT
Brings further ambiguity to the term "retired" as well. (Like my 65 yo father just had a wheel transplant) Since I live in W5... How does one say/spell Titanium/Titanum? I look at signs on the side of the road "Hiway" and cant for the life of me work out what that means... Peter, its actually said in the US how it looks. This gets real confusing for me! (Along with driving on the WRONG side of the road! grin) Cheers Bob W5/VK2YQA East Texas (past the langauge test - can say "Y'all" easily) John N9JG wrote: Why do you guys in the US always omit the "i" in aluminium ? Alsao why a car tire instead of tyre? Just asking ;-) Peter, G3PHO |
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Peter wrote:
Also why a car tire instead of tyre? Why do your cars have bonnets even when it isn't Easter? -- 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp |
Same argument I guess for having a hood like what an executioner wears!
And what about the tree sans leaves, roots and branches in the rear of the car? We could no doubt go on forever. I maintain though that it doesn't matter how bad you spell, use colloquial terms or different languages. What matters is that we allow for ambiguous meaning and then dialogue to rectify misunderstanding.. It is a lot of fun though! Bob Cecil Moore wrote: Why do your cars have bonnets even when it isn't Easter? |
I guess it is because you folks just don't understand English. We also note
you misspell color as well. "Peter" wrote in message ... On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 20:27:02 -0500, Allan Butler wrote: I have tried all the local metal suppliers and several in the Chicago area to get 6061-T6 aluminum tubing from in very specific sizes. I need to ^^^^^^^^ Why do you guys in the US always omit the "i" in aluminium ? Alsao why a car tire instead of tyre? Just asking ;-) Peter, G3PHO |
On 2005-10-06, Allan Butler wrote:
area to get 6061-T6 aluminum tubing from in very specific sizes. Two mail order places to try: OnlineMetals.com (I've gotten great service from them being only a few hundred miles away) and Aircraft Spruce (never ordered metal from them, but lots of homebuilders do). -- Ben Jackson http://www.ben.com/ |
On Sat, 8 Oct 2005 12:53:00 -0500, "John N9JG"
wrote: Also, why do we say tube rather than valve? For the same reason we say toob instead of tshyoob. "Peter" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 20:27:02 -0500, Allan Butler wrote: I have tried all the local metal suppliers and several in the Chicago area to get 6061-T6 aluminum tubing from in very specific sizes. I need to ^^^^^^^^ Why do you guys in the US always omit the "i" in aluminium ? Alsao why a car tire instead of tyre? Just asking ;-) Peter, G3PHO |
On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 14:43:58 -0500, Bob Bob wrote:
And being even further OT Brings further ambiguity to the term "retired" as well. (Like my 65 yo father just had a wheel transplant) Since I live in W5... How does one say/spell Titanium/Titanum? I look at signs on the side of the road "Hiway" and cant for the life of me work out what that means... Peter, its actually said in the US how it looks. Which is why we pronounce extraordinary with five or six syllables instead of two. This gets real confusing for me! (Along with driving on the WRONG side of the road! grin) Cheers Bob W5/VK2YQA East Texas (past the langauge test - can say "Y'all" easily) John N9JG wrote: Why do you guys in the US always omit the "i" in aluminium ? Alsao why a car tire instead of tyre? Just asking ;-) Peter, G3PHO |
On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 20:24:09 GMT, Cecil Moore wrote:
Peter wrote: Also why a car tire instead of tyre? Why do your cars have bonnets even when it isn't Easter? Why doesn't getting knocked up in England result in babies? |
On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 16:50:30 -0500, Bob Bob wrote:
Same argument I guess for having a hood like what an executioner wears! And what about the tree sans leaves, roots and branches in the rear of the car? We could no doubt go on forever. I maintain though that it doesn't matter how bad you spell, use colloquial terms or different languages. What matters is that we allow for ambiguous meaning and then dialogue to rectify misunderstanding.. I gotta say that's a pretty straightforward way to say it. :-) Eschew obfuscation whenever possible. It is a lot of fun though! Bob Cecil Moore wrote: Why do your cars have bonnets even when it isn't Easter? |
On Sat, 8 Oct 2005 18:11:27 -0400, "Fred W4JLE"
wrote: I guess it is because you folks just don't understand English. We also note you misspell color as well. Their orthography is far more glamourous. :-) "Peter" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 20:27:02 -0500, Allan Butler wrote: I have tried all the local metal suppliers and several in the Chicago area to get 6061-T6 aluminum tubing from in very specific sizes. I need to ^^^^^^^^ Why do you guys in the US always omit the "i" in aluminium ? Alsao why a car tire instead of tyre? Just asking ;-) Peter, G3PHO |
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Thanks for the information on where to find aluminum for antenna projects.
The idea of scrap yards would not be a bad one except one does not know what the alloy or temper is on the aluminum. If it isn't right, the first good wind would end up making a nice bundle to go back to the scrap yard. :-( The commercial locations that were given in the information are helpful. Even the Texas Towers site referring to a different alloy is a help. Now I can go back to the locals with a request for the different alloy and see if they have any of that in stock. Again, thanks everyone for the pertinent information. As for the spelling changes. I am an American. I do not speak English, I speak American. If I had put the English spelling on the tests that I took in school I would have failed. I put the American spelling on the tests and at least passed the tests. Schools don't like it when one tries to be a unique individual. Find out who changed the spelling in the past and point your blame thrower at them. Basically it boils down to this is the way we were taught to spell and speak. Maybe we really don't speak English after all these years. We may speak and write a totally different language of American that is based on the English language. If that is the case then there might be reason to believe the same thing is happening with Australia, South Africa and a few other parts of the world. As an example of this get someone from Australia and listen to them. Even better hold a conversation with them. Then find someone from South Africa and converse with them on something in a totally different setting. After talking to both of them one on one, get them both into the same room and introduce them to each other than get them talking to each other about anything you want. You will find that the two dialects are different. OK I know. It's Off Topic. :-) But I started the topic so I can twist it. Right? Again folks, thanks for the information and it will be very helpful. Bye, Cheerio, G'Day, Seeya, Talk ta All Yall Later. :-) ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
Also, why do we say tube rather than valve? Because a tube allows a substance through it without restriction, a valve is a device for controlling such. Dave |
"Allan Butler" wrote in message
... Hello Everyone: I have tried all the local metal suppliers and several in the Chicago area to get 6061-T6 aluminum tubing from in very specific sizes. I need to get two pieces of 1.00 inch OD with a wall thickness of 0.058 inch that are twelve feet long. I also need to get four pieces of 7/8 inch OD by 0.049 inch wall that are twelve feet long. Nobody that I spoke with stocks these items. Some of the big name suppliers were down right nasty about me wanting this small quantity of pieces. Where would one go to get these pieces that I need to get for some antenna projects that I want to build soon? And not pay an arm and a leg for the privilege of owning this rare and unobtainable material. Allan Butler ka0ies Allan - Contact Charles Penniger, KC9DAO of Penniger Radio in St. Charles, IL (western suburb of Chicago). He has a web site: http://www.penninger.com He deals with aluminum tubing on a regular basis with his full-time job -- and stocks long lengths. An e-mail or telephone conversation will likely save you time. http://www.penninger.com/prod05.htm Greg, w9gb |
"jerry" wrote in message
... hi allan, http://www.mcmaster.com great online catalog, they got everything even the kitchen sinks ! they even have local pickup if there is one in your area to save on the truck fees. how about ebay, lots of tubing online, I got some nice 6063 (higher corrosion resistance) .5 od from a guy in california. Problem will be the ship fees, 12' is by truck. Got to be a local place that has it. 73 tube guy Allan - The McMaster-Carr warehouse for the Midwest & Chicago area is along TriState Tollway (I-294) between Grand Avenue and North Avenue ... they have a pick-up window for locals !! ... and are less than 1 mile from my QTH. That and Charles Penniger, KC9DAO -- who sells aluminum tubing up to 24 feet in length (Chicago area) -- start with Chuck -- and save yourself grief and large shipping or freight charges. Greg w9gb |
On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 13:33:35 -0400, Amos Keag
wrote: Because it's ALUMINUM!!! Tyre is an ancient biblical city. Tire is that round thingee between my automobile and the road surface. Tire is what I do very rapidly when listen to a politician spout forth on the TV ... :-) |
Allan Butler wrote: Thanks for the information on where to find aluminum for antenna projects. The idea of scrap yards would not be a bad one except one does not know what the alloy or temper is on the aluminum. If it isn't right, the first good wind would end up making a nice bundle to go back to the scrap yard. :-( The commercial locations that were given in the information are helpful. Even the Texas Towers site referring to a different alloy is a help. Now I can go back to the locals with a request for the different alloy and see if they have any of that in stock. Again, thanks everyone for the pertinent information. It might not be so simple as that-- as, depending on lengths, and element diameters, and how they are attached to each other, can get much greif, even with 6061-T! Had a Six Meter yagi, useing this tubeing thru the boom (3/16 inch -diameter), and could drop it from height and not damage it- But, in the wind, the elements would chatter, causing metal fatigue, causing element failure at the boom entry hole. Don't know if there is a program that will calculate mechanical stress from items such as mentioned, but it is something to reckon with. Its kind of distressing when you have 4 (or 8!) of these up, on a moonbounce array, and have to find a way to replace those elements! as info- Jim NN7K |
On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 14:43:58 -0500, Bob Bob wrote:
And being even further OT Brings further ambiguity to the term "retired" as well. (Like my 65 yo father just had a wheel transplant) LOL!! |
On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 11:35:49 GMT, Bruce wrote:
You mean the second "i"? Probably because we spell it correctly: Aluminum. ;~) I suppose we could also ask why you need to pronounce the first "u" hard. Do we? I hadn't noticed ;-) |
On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 20:24:09 GMT, Cecil Moore wrote:
Peter wrote: Also why a car tire instead of tyre? Why do your cars have bonnets even when it isn't Easter? You also give your car a trunk while we give it a boot! |
On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 16:50:30 -0500, Bob Bob wrote:
We could no doubt go on forever. I maintain though that it doesn't matter how bad you spell, use colloquial terms or different languages. What matters is that we allow for ambiguous meaning and then dialogue to rectify misunderstanding.. That's what our rulers (President and Prime Minister) count on... confusion among the people! |
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Peter wrote:
I could add the word ass and fanny to the conversation we're having but I'd better not ! In England, a friend of mine was introduced thusly: "Hey Everyone! Here's a friend from America! He's Randy!" Randy wondered why everyone was laughing. -- 73, Cecil, http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp |
Cecil Moore wrote:
Peter wrote: I could add the word ass and fanny to the conversation we're having but I'd better not ! In England, a friend of mine was introduced thusly: "Hey Everyone! Here's a friend from America! He's Randy!" Randy wondered why everyone was laughing. I'm ignorant [technical usage] please tell me why! |
On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 17:47:59 -0400, Amos Keag wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote: Peter wrote: I could add the word ass and fanny to the conversation we're having but I'd better not ! In England, a friend of mine was introduced thusly: "Hey Everyone! Here's a friend from America! He's Randy!" Randy wondered why everyone was laughing. I'm ignorant [technical usage] please tell me why! I suppose that includes "web ignorant", too... http://www.google.com/search?&q=define:Randy |
Amos Keag wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote: In England, a friend of mine was introduced thusly: "Hey Everyone! Here's a friend from America! He's Randy!" Randy wondered why everyone was laughing. I'm ignorant [technical usage] please tell me why! I think it's because "randy" in England means the same thing as "horny" in the US. -- 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp |
Let's face it - English is a crazy language. There is no egg in eggplant,
nor ham in hamburger; neither apple nor pine in pineapple. English muffins weren't invented in England or French fries in France. Sweetmeats are candies while sweetbreads, which aren't sweet, are meat. We take English for granted. But if we explore its paradoxes, we find that quicksand can work slowly, boxing rings are square and a guinea pig is neither from Guinea nor is it a pig. And why is it that writers write but fingers don't fing, grocers don't groce and hammers don't ham? If the plural of tooth is teeth, why isn't the plural of booth, beeth? One goose, 2 geese. So one moose, 2 meese? One index, 2 indices? Doesn't it seem crazy that you can make amends but not one amend? If you have a bunch of odds and ends and get rid of all but one of them, what do you call it? If teachers taught, why didn't preachers praught? If a vegetarian eats vegetables, what does a humanitarian eat? Sometimes I think all the English speakers should be committed to an asylum for the verbally insane. In what language do people recite at a play and play at a recital? Ship by truck and send cargo by ship? Have noses that run and feet that smell? How can a slim chance and a fat chance be the same, while a wise man and a wise guy are opposites? You have to marvel at the unique lunacy of a language in which your house can burn up as it burns down, in which you fill in a form by filling it out and in which, an alarm goes off by going on. English was invented by people, not computers, and it reflects the creativity of the human race, which, of course, is not a race at all. That is why, when the stars are out, they are visible, but when the lights are out, they are invisible. PS. - Why doesn't "Buick" rhyme with "quick" "Peter" wrote in message ... On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 13:33:35 -0400, Amos Keag wrote: Because it's ALUMINUM!!! Tyre is an ancient biblical city. Tire is that round thingee between my automobile and the road surface. Tire is what I do very rapidly when listen to a politician spout forth on the TV ... :-) |
OK. So a linear amp would be built with tubes to allow full flow of signal
without restriction, while an audio amp might be built with valves, because we would want to control (restrict) the audio volume. :) This thread seems to have a life of its own. From ally to this! Amazing! -- Pete . . ZS5ACT http://www.electronic-ideas.com/zs5act/ ------ Reply Separator ------ "Dave Piggin" wrote in message ... Also, why do we say tube rather than valve? Because a tube allows a substance through it without restriction, a valve is a device for controlling such. Dave |
On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 22:40:14 -0400, "Fred W4JLE"
wrote: English was invented by people, not computers, and it reflects the creativity of the human race, which, of course, is not a race at all. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ English is long overdue for an overhaul. Countless hours are spent by schoolchildren learning all the bizarre exceptions to the "rules", which aren't really rules at all. What a waste of time! I would like to see a commission established to reform spelling, to begin with, and if successful, work on grammar. I love the English language, but the time has come. 73, Bill W6WRT |
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