Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1   Report Post  
Old October 22nd 05, 03:05 AM
Richard Clark
 
Posts: n/a
Default White Space

Hi All,

As I've so freely wished for new services for Amateur use, such as
RADAR, and by extension HAARP, events seem to be anticipating me, or
at least my event horizon of imagination is growing. From the New
York Times:

A Bill Advancing Digital TV Is Approved by Senate Panel
By STEPHEN LABATON
Published: October 21, 2005

....
Another behind-the-scenes fight has been brewing over how the
government should allocate the so-called "white space" on the
spectrum, which viewers now see on those channels that do not
carry programs, like Channel 3 in New York. Some technology
and Internet service providers, along with consumer groups,
have petitioned the Federal Communications Commission to
approve a new generation of unlicensed wireless devices to
make use of the white space.

Their efforts are opposed by the broadcasters, who say that those
devices would interfere with broadcasting transmission.

The transition has also prompted lobbying by the equipment makers,
including Cisco Systems and Intel, and by software companies like Microsoft,
which has urged lawmakers to preserve a significant amount of the spectrum
for free or unlicensed use. Several lobbyists said this week they had heard
from lawmakers that in recent months Bill Gates, Microsoft's co-founder,
had pressed the issue with members of Congress.

A spokeswoman in the Washington office of Microsoft, Ginny Terzano,
declined to provide details about Mr. Gates's conversations with lawmakers.
She said the company was not seeking a provision for unlicensed spectrum
use in the bill adopted on Thursday but generally favors such unlicensed spectrum.


What do I imagine? Amateur TV Broadcasting! Remember the ill-fated
neighborhood FM? Interest groups sank that idea like a rock in the
ocean. What does "Amateur" mean in this context? Discard the notion
of transmitting only to exchange QSL cards and start pumping music and
game shows produced at the community level. The prohibition against
transmitting entertainment is a antediluvian appeal to the 1930s.
"Amateur" in this context means non-commercial. Not even appeals for
donations. Do it on your own or go back to vaudeville.

My notion to re-invigorate Amateur radio is to expand neighborhood TV
transmission (small service area, AKA Pirate TV) making Hams the
non-profit extension of the FCC for site review and inspection. Boost
the technical requirements (sort of a low grade General
Radiotelephone) for non-profit transmission testing and monitoring.
Develop an association for granting area and frequency coverage (just
like repeater associations have been doing for years) to co-ordinate
allocations. There should even be provisions for networking.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC
  #2   Report Post  
Old October 29th 05, 10:03 PM
Owen Duffy
 
Posts: n/a
Default White Space

On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:05:16 -0700, Richard Clark
wrote:


What do I imagine? Amateur TV Broadcasting! Remember the ill-fated
neighborhood FM? Interest groups sank that idea like a rock in the
ocean. What does "Amateur" mean in this context? Discard the notion
of transmitting only to exchange QSL cards and start pumping music and
game shows produced at the community level. The prohibition against
transmitting entertainment is a antediluvian appeal to the 1930s.
"Amateur" in this context means non-commercial. Not even appeals for
donations. Do it on your own or go back to vaudeville.

My notion to re-invigorate Amateur radio is to expand neighborhood TV
transmission (small service area, AKA Pirate TV) making Hams the
non-profit extension of the FCC for site review and inspection. Boost
the technical requirements (sort of a low grade General
Radiotelephone) for non-profit transmission testing and monitoring.
Develop an association for granting area and frequency coverage (just
like repeater associations have been doing for years) to co-ordinate
allocations. There should even be provisions for networking.


Somehow I think what industry has in mind are ways to tap into "unused
spectrum space" dynamically and exploit it for Internet access
services. You don't need to look very far into their proposed method
of operation to see that a squat on a frequency band soon makes it
unused by anyone else.

Aren't the IEEE working on standards for such spectrum exploitation?

These ideas share a bit in common with the BPL menace, uncoordinated
access to spectrum, and put the onus on the licenced service subject
to interference to follow a regulatory maze to regain access to their
licence entitlements.

Owen

PS: "unused spectrum space" means not licenced to the squatter, and
not carrying enduring signals sufficient in strength to interfere with
their squat.
--
  #3   Report Post  
Old October 29th 05, 11:50 PM
Richard Clark
 
Posts: n/a
Default White Space

On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 21:03:18 GMT, Owen Duffy wrote:

Aren't the IEEE working on standards for such spectrum exploitation?


Hi Owen,

If they have, the filaments' light of their finals are hidden under a
bushel.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC
  #4   Report Post  
Old October 30th 05, 12:09 AM
Owen Duffy
 
Posts: n/a
Default White Space

On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 15:50:12 -0700, Richard Clark
wrote:

On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 21:03:18 GMT, Owen Duffy wrote:

Aren't the IEEE working on standards for such spectrum exploitation?


Hi Owen,

If they have, the filaments' light of their finals are hidden under a
bushel.


http://standards.ieee.org/announcements/pr_80222.html

Owen
--
  #5   Report Post  
Old October 30th 05, 12:50 AM
Richard Clark
 
Posts: n/a
Default White Space

On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 23:09:50 GMT, Owen Duffy wrote:


http://standards.ieee.org/announcements/pr_80222.html


Hi Owen,

Ah! Then the answer to your first question would be they are goring
my ox.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC
Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules

Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
International Space Station School Contacts on Oct 5th, 6th 7th g3zhi General 1 October 5th 05 12:26 PM
International Space Station School Contacts on Oct 5th, 6th 7th g3zhi Shortwave 0 October 5th 05 08:21 AM
INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION LIVE ON ECHOLINK MARCH 8th TUES 1410GMT g3zhi Shortwave 0 March 8th 05 07:04 AM
OT Mainstream News Providers Have Betrayed The People David Shortwave 30 February 23rd 05 04:21 PM
Black ABC Radio Host Mocks Dismembered White Teen Thomas Giella KN4LF Shortwave 8 November 14th 03 11:27 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 07:07 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2024 RadioBanter.
The comments are property of their posters.
 

About Us

"It's about Radio"

 

Copyright © 2017