"Cecil Moore" wrote
Reg Edwards wrote:
Cec, You should realise it's a waste of time pointing people
towards
computer programs which require a 6-weeks full-time training
course to
understand what its all about.

Reg, if I can learn ELNEC in two years, anyone can do it. :-)
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Cec, What is ELNEC? OK, I can guess!

Quite truthfully, if you had pointed ME towards EZNEC then I am unable
even to download and un-zip it.

Acually, I do have a copy. Some years back Roy took pity on me and,
without any request from me, very kindly broke the rules and airmailed
me a free parcel of 3.25" floppy disks. It took me a week to print out
the instruction handbook and another 2 weeks just to read it by which
time I had forgotten what the problem was.

'Experts' should realise, from the manner in which questions are
written, the predicament some questioners are in and make allowances
instead of leaving them to flounder about in a sea of frustration and
despondency.

N4AST's comments are unworthy.
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Regards, Reg.

Reg Edwards wrote:
Cec, What is ELNEC? OK, I can guess!

ELNEC was the DOS-based ancestor of EZNEC. (W7 EL NEC) It remains
the piece of software in my entire life with which I was most amazed
and delighted. For me, ELNEC rekindled the "magic" of amateur radio.

'Experts' should realise, from the manner in which questions are
written, the predicament some questioners are in and make allowances
instead of leaving them to flounder about in a sea of frustration and
despondency.

But 'Experts' need to know the length of the antenna which, to the
best of my knowledge, wasn't given in the original posting. That's
why I recommended EZNEC.
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73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

But 'Experts' need to know the length of the antenna which, to the
best of my knowledge, wasn't given in the original posting. That's
why I recommended EZNEC.
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73, Cecil
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Dear Cec,

So, if you had anything to say, why didn't you just ask him how long
is his antenna instead of sending him off on a wild goose chase?

I must admit you got nearer to discovering what was missing than I
did. Let's see what happens now.
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Reg, G4FGQ

Reg Edwards wrote:
So, if you had anything to say, why didn't you just ask him how long
is his antenna instead of sending him off on a wild goose chase?

Reg, a standing recommendation of mine is to download the free
demo version of EZNEC and have fun learning how to use it.
Any amateur radio operator who succeeds in doing so will be
rewarded for the effort expended (and was also a source of
extreme pleasure in my case). ELNEC/EZNEC and the Smith
Chart (Microsmith) are the most useful tools I have ever
encountered for comprehension of antenna systems. (Not
considering reference books as "tools".)
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73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

Cec, as an aside, when people are conversing with each other, 50
percent of the information passing to and fro is conveyed by body
language.

Body language is completely lacking when conversing via newsgroups.
This can very easily lead to misunderstanding and futile argument.

People should check and recheck what they have said before posting.
The existence of certain types of spelling mistakes and obvious
grammatical errors are a guide to the care and attention which has
been paid by the sender to saying what he intended to say.

I admit, very careless senders do not deserve any replies. Not because
absence of reply is an unsaid reprimand but because they have
indicated their inability to understand a reply if they get one.

Then there are trollers!

This message is primarily intended for people seeking solutions to
problems.

I have had only two glasses of white wine. (South African).

And I don't know how to use a spell-checker even if I had one.
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Yours, Reg, G4FGQ

And I have never been criticised for begining a sentence with "and".
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Reg.

I believe that REG and CECIL have lost the idea of what I asked in
the begining.
I'm NOT a dog going around in a circle chasing his tail ! I want
some FACTS.
NOT endless chatter, about the worlds demise!
I have a bought antenna made of wire. Yes, I should
have built it
myself,BUT I didn't. I need to know how to fix "said" antenna, and
intergrate
it into my small land. 1/8 of an acre. ON4UN's book on "low band
dxing"
states that there aren't any PROGRAMS for linear-loaded ant.'s out
there.
oh well, I guess that
I'll just haffta go back to 2m !

"Cecil Moore" wrote

Reg, a standing recommendation of mine is to download the free
demo version of EZNEC and have fun learning how to use it.
Any amateur radio operator who succeeds in doing so will be
rewarded for the effort expended (and was also a source of
extreme pleasure in my case). ELNEC/EZNEC and the Smith
Chart (Microsmith) are the most useful tools I have ever
encountered for comprehension of antenna systems. (Not
considering reference books as "tools".)
--
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Dear Cec,

In the present context, in the absence of body language, your praise
of EZNEC can perhaps be misconstrued as my criticism of that erstwhile
computer program.

On the contrary, I quite agree with your comments.

Regarding the Smith Chart, I have myself never found it to be of any
use. In fact I don't know how to use it. I am aware of its
long-standing existence, and what it is purported to achieve, from
this newsgroup and from the one or two ancient 'bibles' which I seldom
refer to.

But the absence of a Smith Chart may be due to some vague shortcoming
in my education for which I have no responsibility. So I have never
felt myself to be handicapped in any way. Indeed, I have gained from
this and other websites the impression that I am considered to be a
transmission line 'expert'. But I claim only to be a well-educated,
useful engineer who also happens, in retirement, to be a radio amateur
with the ability to express myself in plain written English.

To continue with my earlier message, I have just finished a third
glass of white, South African wine.

But enough about me. What are you doing about Bush?
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Reg.

Reg Edwards wrote:
But enough about me. What are you doing about Bush?

I don't have to do anything about Bush, Reg. He is
fast running out of feet in which to shoot himself.
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73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

Reg Edwards g4fgq,regp@ZZZbtinternet,com wrote:

Regarding the Smith Chart, I have myself never found it to be of any
use. In fact I don't know how to use it.

I have nothing to add to this thread other than to say that I thought
the above was an odd combination of sentences.

But enough about me. What are you doing about Bush?

Because he's my Commander-in-Chief I support him in every regard.
But aside from that, he's doing exactly what I'm paying him to do (with
respect to my federal taxes helping to pay his salary). He's a good man
but I'm afraid you've been brainwashed by the liberal media to think
otherwise.

73 from Hawaii,
Jeff KH6O

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Chief Petty Officer, U.S. Coast Guard
Mathematics Lecturer, University of Hawaii System