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Old November 29th 05, 04:28 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
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Richard Harrison wrote:

Wayne Watson wrote:
"What about the underlying methodology behind this?"

Please refer to the 3rd. edition of "Antennas for All Applications", by
John D. Kraus with a host of other professors, for answers to nearly all
your questions. Kraus organizes antennas by types.

The dipole is the simplest complete antenna. But, the first practical
antenna was patented by Marconi. He was interested in communications
over the ocean, so only 1/2 of a dipole is needed. The return circuit is
provided by the ocean. Sea water is nearly lossless.

Marconi imagined the antenna as a capacitor plate.. Then he discovered
the antenna worked about as well with just the connectng wires inplace,
without the plate. As the 19th century turned into the 20th century,
Marconi spanned the Atlantic with signals from his antennas.

Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI

A book by that title was not found on Amazon. You're not thinking of the
latest edition of his "Antennas" are you?


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Wayne T. Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA)
(121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time)
Obz Site: 39° 15' 7" N, 121° 2' 32" W, 2700 feet

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tool to carry with you? An axe.
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Old November 29th 05, 05:50 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
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On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 04:28:22 GMT, "W. Watson"
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A book by that title was not found on Amazon. You're not thinking of the
latest edition of his "Antennas" are you?


Hi OM,

Amazon is a poor start. Try a real book vendor:
http://www.alibris.com/search/search...*listing*title
where there are three available. You may not like the price, however.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC
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Old November 29th 05, 02:28 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
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Richard Clark wrote:

wrote:
A book by that title was not found on Amazon. You're not thinking of the
latest edition of his "Antennas" are you?


"for all applications" is part of a subtitle.

Amazon is a poor start. Try a real book vendor:
http://www.alibris.com/search/search...*listing*title
where there are three available. You may not like the price, however.


Prices ($31) are good he
http://dogbert.abebooks.com/servlet/...072321032&x=44
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73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp
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Cecil Moore wrote:

Richard Clark wrote:

wrote:

A book by that title was not found on Amazon. You're not thinking of
the latest edition of his "Antennas" are you?



"for all applications" is part of a subtitle.

Amazon is a poor start. Try a real book vendor:
http://www.alibris.com/search/search...*listing*title

where there are three available. You may not like the price, however.



Prices ($31) are good he
http://dogbert.abebooks.com/servlet/...072321032&x=44

Interesting. It's in San Jose. I'll be there Saturday. I wonder where they
are? (Cheapestbooks). Interesting source.

When I was a student (a very long time ago), I would sometimes buy paperback
books of many texts from Blackwells in England. The price was usually about
1/2. Sometimes (back then, and maybe still), one could by tech books from
China that was on almost tissue paper pages. They were quite cheap.

--
Wayne T. Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA)
(121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time)
Obz Site: 39° 15' 7" N, 121° 2' 32" W, 2700 feet

Traveling in arid or desert country? Check your
boots well to see if you have a scorpion in them.
-- Survivorman, Discovery (SCI) Channel

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W. Watson wrote:
When I was a student (a very long time ago), I would sometimes buy
paperback books of many texts from Blackwells in England. The price was
usually about 1/2. Sometimes (back then, and maybe still), one could by
tech books from China that was on almost tissue paper pages. They were
quite cheap.


Here's another good book, "Optics", by Eugene Hecht, for $24, containing
the best treatment of superposition and interference that I have ever seen.

http://dogbert.abebooks.com/servlet/...805385665&x=46
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73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp


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Old December 6th 05, 02:58 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
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"W. Watson" wrote in message
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Sometimes (back then, and maybe still), one could by tech books from China
that was on almost tissue paper pages. They were quite cheap.


You can find people on Amazon.Com selling books this way. The books
themselves often have stern warnings about how they're only licensed to be
sold in specific countries such as China or India, although personally I have
a hard time feeling too sorry for the publisher if the purchaser really is
someone trying to get an education and not the librarian of a well-funded
company who's stocking the corporate library.

(I could also whine about how most public libraries today seem to have
incredibly poor selections of _contemporary_ technical books, but I suppose
that with their limited budgets purchasing the newest romance novel for $10.99
does generate a lot more checkouts than purchasing the re-print of Grover's
Inductance Calculations...)

It's interesting that educational textbooks in the USA tend to cost pretty
much the same as 'professional' texts (e.g., those from Artech house) or more
(e.g., more of the technical texts from Dover are quite inexpensive) whereas
the software industry figured out a long time ago that it's better to sell
students, e.g., a stripped down $99 version of Office than have them pirate
the $799 professional version. As it is, very few students keep their
textbooks at the end of their classes, which I think is rather unfortunate...
although I would admit that many people who become, e.g., EE's today truly
never expect to crack open Cheng or Sedra & Smith (or even Horowitz & Hill!)
for their entire careers.

In the past decade, I've found some very good, reasonably priced
self-published book or eBooks, such as those on Peter Joseph's site. (In
fact, I still wish I could find out whether or not John Pastonek ever
published anything besides his RF oscillators short course book -- in the back
of the book he claims there either are or would be others, but he seemed to
have dropped off the fact of the earth.)

---Joel Kolstad



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Richard Clark wrote:

On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 04:28:22 GMT, "W. Watson"
wrote:


A book by that title was not found on Amazon. You're not thinking of the
latest edition of his "Antennas" are you?



Hi OM,

Amazon is a poor start. Try a real book vendor:
http://www.alibris.com/search/search...*listing*title
where there are three available. You may not like the price, however.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Yes, that is pretty steep. However, Kraus's 3rd edition of "Antennas" is
$165. I'll be down in the SF Bay Area this weekend. Maybe I can find it at a
library down there, or arrange to get an interlibrary loan. I use albris on
occasion. Glad you reminded me of it.

--
Wayne T. Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA)
(121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time)
Obz Site: 39° 15' 7" N, 121° 2' 32" W, 2700 feet

Traveling in arid or desert country? Check your
boots well to see if you have a scorpion in them.
-- Survivorman, Discovery (SCI) Channel

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