Cecil Moore wrote:
Tom Donaly wrote:

Cecil, that's the worst analogy I've ever read in my
life.


The PSK signals lose phase when they are superposed. The forward
and reflected currents lose phase when they are superposed. Looks
like a perfect analogy to me. Do you disagree with Gene Fuller?

Gene Fuller, W4SZ wrote:

In a standing wave antenna problem, such as the one you describe,
there is no remaining phase information. Any specific phase
characteristics of the traveling waves died out when the startup
transients died out.

Phase is gone. Kaput. Vanished. Cannot be recovered. Never to be seen
again.

The only "phase" remaining is the cos (kz) term, which is really an
amplitude description, not a phase.


Do you disagree with Gene? How can Tom and Roy possibly use a signal
whose phase cannot be recovered to measure phase?

But Cecil, it can be recovered. See my earlier remarks.
73,
Tom Donaly, KA6RUH