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Old March 8th 06, 09:55 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
Reg Edwards
 
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Radiation from feedlines is grossly exaggerated.

For many purposes, practically it does not occur.

When discussing the importance of such radiation one should always
crudely estimate its level relative to transmitter or radiated power.

If you don't know what its level is then you don't know what you are
waffling about.
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Reg.


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Old March 8th 06, 09:58 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
Richard Clark
 
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On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 21:55:42 +0000 (UTC), "Reg Edwards"
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If you don't know what its level is then you don't know what you are
waffling about.


Hi Reggie,

Seeing you lack any quantifiables, are you offering belgian waffles?

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC
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Old March 8th 06, 10:10 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
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On Wed, 08 Mar 2006 13:58:19 -0800, Richard Clark
wrote:

On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 21:55:42 +0000 (UTC), "Reg Edwards"
wrote:

If you don't know what its level is then you don't know what you are
waffling about.


Hi Reggie,

Seeing you lack any quantifiables, are you offering belgian waffles?

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC


Richard,

Just anouther one of Reg's factoids (e pluribus unum).


Danny

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Old March 9th 06, 10:15 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
Reg Edwards
 
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Danny,

Since I am not fluent in Latin, could you please tell me what is a
"Factoid"?
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Reg.


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Old March 9th 06, 01:13 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
Roy Lewallen
 
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Reg Edwards wrote:
Danny,

Since I am not fluent in Latin, could you please tell me what is a
"Factoid"?


Danny should be able to translate that. He lives at the coast, where
they get lots of touroids from points inland.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL


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Old March 9th 06, 01:14 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
Dan Richardson
 
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On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 10:15:23 +0000 (UTC), "Reg Edwards"
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Danny,

Since I am not fluent in Latin, could you please tell me what is a
"Factoid"?
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Reg.

How about English? Surely your English dictionary has it listed?

http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_/factoid.html\\ (definition #1)


"e pluribus unum" at one time was our national motto and still appears
on our coins.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_pluribus_unum

Danny




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Old March 9th 06, 01:50 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
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"Dan Richardson adelphia net" k6mheatdot wrote in message
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On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 10:15:23 +0000 (UTC), "Reg Edwards"
wrote:

Danny,

Since I am not fluent in Latin, could you please tell me what is a
"Factoid"?
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Reg.

How about English? Surely your English dictionary has it listed?

http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_/factoid.html\\ (definition #1)


=========================================
It's not in MY dictionary. I have the Concise Oxford English
Dictionary, 1951 edition.

But you've got it wrong. "Factoid" doesn't apply to me anyway.
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Reg.


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Old March 9th 06, 02:38 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
Dan Richardson
 
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On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 13:50:07 +0000 (UTC), "Reg Edwards"
wrote:

It's not in MY dictionary. I have the Concise Oxford English
Dictionary, 1951 edition.


From the Oxford English Dictionary:


http://www.askoxford.com/results/?vi...r=score%2Cname


Danny

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Old March 10th 06, 03:15 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
AC7PN
 
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FACTOID:

"A small granule of truth." A factoid is to insight, as a small hard
turd is to a bowel movement.

Bob Brunius, AC7PN


Dan Richardson wrote:
On Wed, 08 Mar 2006 13:58:19 -0800, Richard Clark
wrote:

On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 21:55:42 +0000 (UTC), "Reg Edwards"
wrote:

If you don't know what its level is then you don't know what you are
waffling about.


Hi Reggie,

Seeing you lack any quantifiables, are you offering belgian waffles?

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC


Richard,

Just anouther one of Reg's factoids (e pluribus unum).


Danny


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Old March 12th 06, 12:02 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
Mike Coslo
 
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Okay, all.

I rand a multi-band check on my s-meter.

The results a (with the previous 80 meter test included.

80 meter

+20 start
S9 -18 db
S8 -23 db
S7 -26 db
S6 -29 db
S5 -32 db
S4 -35 db
S3 -37 db
S2 -39 db
S1 -41 db

40 meter

+20 start

S9 -18 db
S8 -22 db
S7 -25 db
S6 -28 db
S5 -31 db
S4 -34 db
S3 -36.5 db
S2 -38.5 db
S1 -41 db

30 meter

+20 start

S9 -19 db
S8 -23 db
S7 -27 db
S6 -31 db
S5 -34 db
S4 -36 db
S3 -39 db
S2 -41 db
S1 -43 db

20 meter

+20 start

S9 -19 db
S8 -22 db
S7 -26 db
S6 -30 db
S5 -34 db
S3 -38 db
S2 -41 db
S1 -50 db

There is no doubt that the readings are different, and significantly in
some cases. I will give a calibration of the meter for each band that I do.
Lesson learned here is that the meter should be calibrated to do this
test, IMO. Yes, it is true that on any given band the readings are going
to be relative to each other. But it is inevitable that questions will
arise about the relative efficiency of my antennas by band, as both are
multi-band antennas.

Part 2 to follow soon.......

-73 de Mike KB3EIA -


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