i live in an single story first floor apartment,
any ideas on an 80-10 meter antenna indoors only,
thanks jack

2 magloops? I have seen various designs for loops under 1 metre in diameter

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i live in an single story first floor apartment,
any ideas on an 80-10 meter antenna indoors only,
thanks jack

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In message OBaDb.549665$Tr4.1495835@attbi_s03, j.beltz
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i live in an single story first floor apartment,
any ideas on an 80-10 meter antenna indoors only,
thanks jack

Can you get at the roof space?

Mike
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M.J.Powell

Hi Jack

I lived in an apartment for several years, NO ANTENNAS OF ANY KIND
ALLOWED. Inside or outside. They provided a TV antenna hookup,
lousy, but they provided it, so we couldn't even have rabbit ears.

Yet I had quite an antenna farm, and no one was the wiser about it.

Dipoles are fairly easy to disguise as something else. But I had a
160 meter dipole in plain sight and no one paid a bit of attention to
it. Only because of the steps I took previously to draw attention
away from it as an antenna, to something else, like a kite caught in a
tree and this was the string to it.
Antenna's in flower pots, and the coax to them inside of a garden
hose, etc.
Where there is a will, there is a way (and/or relatives), depending
upon the type of will, hi hi.....

The easiest antenna I installed inside, was simply using self-adhesive
copper foil, like aluminum burglar window foil, but only made of
copper. You can get this at almost any stained glass supplier.
Stick it to the ceiling, in the corners and then paint over it, it
becomes invisible. I caulked over mine lightly before painting.

I even made a little stationary mini-beam on one wall using this
copper foil. It couldn't be rotated, but it pointed in the direction
I needed it to, to hit a distant 6 meter repeater with my HT.
After I found out it worked so well, I spackled over it and repainted
the wall, it was completely invisible except for a BNC connector just
above the baseboard, which was easily removed when I moved.

TTUL
Gary

Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr. wrote:

Hi Jack

I lived in an apartment for several years, NO ANTENNAS OF ANY KIND
ALLOWED. Inside or outside. They provided a TV antenna hookup,
lousy, but they provided it, so we couldn't even have rabbit ears.

TTUL
Gary

Things like that (and not being allowed to put my bicycle on the deck) are
why I won't move into a strata-complex.

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Donovan Hill

alt verbositized:

Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr. wrote:

Hi Jack

I lived in an apartment for several years, NO ANTENNAS OF ANY KIND
ALLOWED. Inside or outside. They provided a TV antenna hookup,
lousy, but they provided it, so we couldn't even have rabbit ears.

TTUL
Gary

Things like that (and not being allowed to put my bicycle on the deck) are
why I won't move into a strata-complex.

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Donovan Hill

Hi Donovan

I had no choice, it was company owned for temporary out of town
workers. The temporary just happen to last close to 5 years of and
on.

What do you do when you move into a subdivision with no restrictions
regarding antenna's and then later they add them?

TTUL
Gary

Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr. wrote:

alt verbositized:

Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr. wrote:

Hi Jack

I lived in an apartment for several years, NO ANTENNAS OF ANY KIND
ALLOWED. Inside or outside. They provided a TV antenna hookup,
lousy, but they provided it, so we couldn't even have rabbit ears.

TTUL
Gary

Things like that (and not being allowed to put my bicycle on the deck) are
why I won't move into a strata-complex.

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Donovan Hill

Hi Donovan

I had no choice, it was company owned for temporary out of town
workers. The temporary just happen to last close to 5 years of and
on.

I suspected not. Stratas are excellent examples of ruling by committee. The
most rediculous rules get implemented like not being able to put my bicycle
on the deck, even though it was the only thing on the deck and I was on the
non-exposed side of the building where noone could really see it. But I got
fined $125 for the priviledge.

What do you do when you move into a subdivision with no restrictions
regarding antenna's and then later they add them?


I won't move into a strata governed subdivision. Never. Never. Never. I
don't need or want a bunch of people mettling in the way I keep my house
and yard. It's, quite frankly, none of their business as long as what I do
isn't a fire or other safety hazard.

But I'm also an asshole.

TTUL
Gary





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Donovan Hill

I wouldn't say you were that alt!

I have also lived where there were zero rules or laws about property
or maintenance. That side of the fence is actually worse than having
some moderate restrictions as to livestock, house color, outbuildings,
etc. Lest you end up with a pig farmer upwind in a regal purple house
with dayglow orange outbuildings constructed of old auto bodies.

It is so easy to disguise or hide most ham antenna's, except towers
and yagi's of course, that it is not usually a problem for most hams.

I did have a 50 foot tower that was in place before the restrictions
came into play and was thus grandfathered.
I was a little irked when I changed my house color without prior
permission, considering the color was in their approved list already,
and they called me on it. There was no fine, and the color scheme was
approved as suitable. They had left no provisions for the common
three color blend of painting which is quite prevelent in our area.
All of their approved schemes consisted of only two colors.

TTUL
Gary

In article ,
am says...
What do you do when you move into a subdivision with no restrictions
regarding antenna's and then later they add them?

If you have your antennas up before the restrictions, I suspect there's
little they can do to make you take them down to conform to the new
restrictions. You may not be able to put up NEW stuff, but the existing
antennas should be grandfathered.

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Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS
Fountain Valley, CA
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On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 04:17:50 GMT, "j.beltz"
wrote:

i live in an single story first floor apartment,
any ideas on an 80-10 meter antenna indoors only,
thanks jack


If you can park close to your apartment, a mobile antenna on your car,
with a temporary line running out to your car, could be a possibility.

If you can put a short, angled whip in your window, look at the Barker
& Williamson AP-10A. (www.bwantennas.com) Many years ago, I had good
luck running one from a 3rd story window. Good for 40 through 2
meters.

Otherwise, you could string up dipoles for the higher HF bands in your
apartment.

For the outdoors, suppliers like www.thewireman.com have #26 black
insulated antenna wire, which is nearly invisible against the sky, and
RG-174 coax, which is only 1/8" thick -- though it could be tricky
stringing anything up on an apartment ground.

Finally, when your lease is up, you might look into a house rental :-)

Bob
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