Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1   Report Post  
Old April 20th 06, 09:12 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
Roy Lewallen
 
Posts: n/a
Default EZNEC Vertical interpretation

John Ferrell wrote:
I don't find the Helix feature in my copy of EZNEC+ V4.


You'll find it in the EZNEC manual index under "Helix Creation".
(There's lots of other good information in the manual, too.)

I believe I can get the same results by inserting an appropriate load.
It will just be a little more cumbersome.


It'll be less cumbersome, but you probably won't get the same results.
The amount difference will depend on the geometry of the helix. However,
a lumped load is adequate to illustrate the phenomena you're investigating.

I was not aware that the feeding of the radiator was affected by the
driving source. My "lab models" require a base inductance to get the
radiator into a range I can feed. I have not been including that in
the models.

I added a base inductor of 100uh(r=3) and got the results you
predicted. The 28 foot radiator is now showing -3.75 dbi gain!
Lesson learned!


The loss is due solely to the inductor's resistance -- you'll get the
same result by replacing the inductor with a 3 ohm resistor. The amount
of gain reduction due to the inductor will get worse and worse as the
antenna gets shorter and shorter, for two reasons. The first is that the
antenna's radiation resistance drops as it gets shorter, so the inductor
loss becomes a greater fraction of the total feedpoint resistance. The
second is that you need a larger inductor for a shorter antenna and,
assuming a constant Q, that means more inductor resistance.

. . .


Roy Lewallen, W7EL
  #2   Report Post  
Old April 21st 06, 01:41 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
John Ferrell
 
Posts: n/a
Default EZNEC Vertical interpretation

Thank you, I get that!
On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:12:20 -0700, Roy Lewallen
wrote:



The loss is due solely to the inductor's resistance -- you'll get the
same result by replacing the inductor with a 3 ohm resistor. The amount
of gain reduction due to the inductor will get worse and worse as the
antenna gets shorter and shorter, for two reasons. The first is that the
antenna's radiation resistance drops as it gets shorter, so the inductor
loss becomes a greater fraction of the total feedpoint resistance. The
second is that you need a larger inductor for a shorter antenna and,
assuming a constant Q, that means more inductor resistance.

. . .


Roy Lewallen, W7EL

John Ferrell W8CCW
Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules

Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Inverted ground plane antenna: compared with normal GP and low dipole. Serge Stroobandt, ON4BAA Antenna 8 February 24th 11 10:22 PM
The Long and Thin Vertical Loop Antenna. [ The Non-Resonance Vertical with a Difference ] RHF Shortwave 0 December 27th 05 06:03 PM
help with EZNEC and a parasitic vertical antenna Rob Brown Antenna 0 October 13th 05 12:27 AM
QST Article: An Easy to Build, Dual-Band Collinear Antenna Serge Stroobandt, ON4BAA Antenna 12 October 16th 03 07:44 PM
Poor vertical performance on metal sheet roof - comments? Kristinn Andersen Antenna 23 August 8th 03 11:08 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 07:18 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2025 RadioBanter.
The comments are property of their posters.
 

About Us

"It's about Radio"

 

Copyright © 2017