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"Sal M. Onella" wrote in
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"gravity" wrote in message
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5 WPM is easy.


Nonsense.

Tell us you can do it --- tell us your mangy hound dog can do it, but
steer clear of the blanket statements. It isn't easy to one who can't
do it.



When code goes away, you're going to be the one that tells us the written
is too hard.

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Cecil Moore wrote in
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gravity wrote:
i have an idea. get rid of the CW and triple the difficulty of the
written test. there is certain element of society, which needs to be
kept out of the HF spectrum.


How about just requiring a scientific/technical
degree from an accredited university?


That's kind of funny but you know, I could actually agree to that. An EE
degree gets you a licence. You're certainly qualified. :-)

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On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:42:03 -0400, Dave wrote:


I like CW! It is most likely going away as a requirement. I'm sad at this.

Amateur radio will change as a result. Everything changes. Hopefully the changes
will be positive.


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Don't be sad my friend. CW will survive if people find it useful, and
especially if the diehards will stop jamming it down people's throats.

News flash: People don't like that with CW or anything else! :-)

73, Bill W6WRT
20 wpm extra, licensed 49 yrs

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On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 14:01:14 GMT, Cecil Moore
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When I got my driver's license in 1952, the driving test
was required to be taken on a stick shift vehicle. Do
you think that should still be a requirement?


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Of course not. Today's driving test should require making a left turn
while dialing a cell phone and sipping a Starbucks.

Bill, W6WRT

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On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 10:38:49 -0400, Dave wrote:


NO! Don't label another person! It is wrong to label! Particularly when you do
not know any of his/her life's circumstances.


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Not true at all. For example I can label you as a Politically Correct,
Warm-n-Fuzzy far leftist and be right on the money.

Labels have their place.

Bill, W6WRT



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"Bill Turner" wrote in message
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ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 14:01:14 GMT, Cecil Moore
wrote:

When I got my driver's license in 1952, the driving test
was required to be taken on a stick shift vehicle. Do
you think that should still be a requirement?


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Of course not. Today's driving test should require making a left turn
while dialing a cell phone and sipping a Starbucks.

and talking on the radio and shifting a manual transmission all at the same
time.

:-)



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"pltrgyst" wrote in message
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Dyslexia cannot apply, unless it is dyslexia that affects the
remembered dot/dash pattern of a single character.


Well, Larry, it took you to the last sentence, but you did actually lurch
into the problem.
Within seconds after learning what dah-dit-dit-dah means (or
dit-dah-dah-dit, for that matter), I fail to
accurately recognize them when they are sent again. Hundreds of tries --
all failures, all mine.

From your lofty perch, as a successful Morse Code user, you look down on me.
You could stand to learn a
little humility. It would serve you and the amateur community better than
dah-dit-dah any day.


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"Slow Code" wrote in message
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When code goes away, you're going to be the one that tells us the written
is too hard.



You wish! Of the 55 questions on my Technician License exam,
I missed one. ONE!

Technically, I'm an above average ham. Through your dirty goggles,
however,
you see me as some kind of slug because I can't do code. So wrong.

Because I already hit the twit filter on you, I won't see any reply you
send, so
play it up any way you want.


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"Sal M. Onella" wrote in message
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"pltrgyst" wrote in message
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Dyslexia cannot apply, unless it is dyslexia that affects the
remembered dot/dash pattern of a single character.


Well, Larry, it took you to the last sentence, but you did actually lurch
into the problem.
Within seconds after learning what dah-dit-dit-dah means (or
dit-dah-dah-dit, for that matter), I fail to
accurately recognize them when they are sent again. Hundreds of tries --
all failures, all mine.

From your lofty perch, as a successful Morse Code user, you look down on

me.
You could stand to learn a
little humility. It would serve you and the amateur community better than
dah-dit-dah any day.



should we get rid of the written test because people can't learn decibels
and basic algebra?

perhaps the CW test could have a question pool similar to the written. you
could memorize all the answers. i am actually dead serious. or standardize
the test so that the output is always like a QSO in super morse. there are
ways to make the test easier.

hmm, or we could have an option that you can view the CW in a spectrogram
and decode it visually.

Gravity


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In rec.radio.amateur.antenna Cecil Moore wrote:
: When I got my driver's license in 1952, the driving test
: was required to be taken on a stick shift vehicle. Do
: you think that should still be a requirement?

Yes.
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