"an old friend" wrote in
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Al Klein wrote:
On 11 Aug 2006 07:57:47 -0700, "an old friend"
wrote:

the issue is simple some folks want to claim other folks that took and
passed the tests equire by by law are somehow "cheating"

If you can't even understand the issue, why do you keep opening your
mouth and proving it?
but I do uderstand the issue the real issue not the smoke screen you
are trying to blow (wether your own one you have been brainwashed into
accepting



Mark, would you put these five steps on your web blog for me? Thanks. I
also want to try to get the moon bouncers to help us out. I think by
puting the five steps on your website, a lot more hams will see and agree
the five steps are a good idea. TNX, 73

SC



Step 1: No more automatic renewals. Individuals must retest and
pass all elements required for their license class.

Step 2: The passing score for written exams needs to be raised to 85%.

Step 3: Code elements should be 13 wpm for General, and 20 wpm for Extra.

Step 4: Make the no-code license one year non-renewable.

Step 5: Cancel your league membership until they decide to work
to improve things.

On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 21:32:51 GMT, Cecil Moore
wrote:

all he can do presently is pass the present day test requirements
and then be belittled

For claiming that the tests prove that he knows as much as those who
passed much more difficult tests, not for not having to pass those
more difficult tests.

On 11 Aug 2006 15:54:33 -0700, "an old friend"
wrote:

Al Klein wrote:
On 11 Aug 2006 07:57:47 -0700, "an old friend"
wrote:

the issue is simple some folks want to claim other folks that took and
passed the tests equire by by law are somehow "cheating"

If you can't even understand the issue, why do you keep opening your
mouth and proving it?

but I do uderstand the issue

Then why do you keep pretending that you don't?

the real issue not the smoke screen you
are trying to blow (wether your own one you have been brainwashed into
accepting

I think I know what I'm claiming a little better than you do.

On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 21:36:49 GMT, Cecil Moore
wrote:

Al Klein wrote:

You still don't understand (or want to acknowledge) the difference
between learning that Ohm was a scientist after whom the unit of
resistance was named, and "the answer to the question with the 10k
resistor is 'greater'".

Of course I understand. When I took my Conditional exam,
I didn't know Mr. Ohm from a hole in the ground. I simply
*MEMORIZED* that the ohm was the unit of resistance. I
had no idea how to know that except by *MEMORIZATION*.

Showing that you DON'T know the difference. Don't you even understand
what you post?

On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 21:27:26 GMT, Cecil Moore
wrote:

Al Klein wrote:
wrote:
You denigrate the resistor code.

Not at all. It's a lot better than having the value printed on the
resistor in numbers. Even with MIL quality and transparent coatings,
the numbers on 1/8 watt resistors are kind of hard to read.

Even with the resistor color code, most of us *MEMORIZED*
a jingle like:
Bad Boys Rape Our Young Girls But Violet Gives Willingly
I believe the military used to teach their technicians
to *MEMORIZE* that jingle. Exactly how does one develop
the resistor color code from first principles?

One doesn't, but "first principles" has nothing to do with this
discussion - a fact you still don't understand.

On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 21:39:11 GMT, Cecil Moore
wrote:

wrote:

I learned the formulas ...

Did you *Heaven Forbid* memorize any formulas?

I'll bet he didn't derive the shapes of the written numbers from first
principles either.

Al Klein wrote:
On 11 Aug 2006 15:54:33 -0700, "an old friend"
wrote:

Al Klein wrote:
On 11 Aug 2006 07:57:47 -0700, "an old friend"
wrote:

the issue is simple some folks want to claim other folks that took and
passed the tests equire by by law are somehow "cheating"

If you can't even understand the issue, why do you keep opening your
mouth and proving it?

but I do uderstand the issue

Then why do you keep pretending that you don't?
but I don't

I do understand your public snit

the real issue not the smoke screen you
are trying to blow (wether your own one you have been brainwashed into
accepting

I think I know what I'm claiming a little better than you do.

not likely nor did I say you were climing something othe r than you are
claiming I am simply accusing not telling being honest about why you
are making the claim

your beef has nothing to do with the tests it is to do with end of the
Hazing ritual that is a bout to occour you are just not honest to amdit
(perhaps not even to yourself) you your concern is for the service the
fact is that your problem is being hung up on the notion I did so you
must

Al Klein wrote:
On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 21:32:51 GMT, Cecil Moore
wrote:

all he can do presently is pass the present day test requirements
and then be belittled

For claiming that the tests prove that he knows as much as those who
passed much more difficult tests, not for not having to pass those
more difficult tests.
who has made any such claim?

you like a lot of the procoders add a lot of things to what people are
realy saying

Al Klein wrote:
Showing that you DON'T know the difference.

I personally don't care why the unit of resistance
is named the ohm.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

Al Klein wrote:
I'll bet he didn't derive the shapes of the written numbers from first
principles either.

That fact goes against your "memorizing is evil" argument.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp