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Default Morris Code -plus- Continuous Wave (CW) Radio Transmission -and- Semaphore Signals ? Do They Defining Amateur Radio ?

"Jimmie D" wrote in
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Yes. That's understandable. Hams these days don't want to act like
hams, they like to be appliance operators. So kids don't see that CW
is important and fun. All they see is hams gabbing on a microphone
like any CB'er can do.

SC


Actually a lot of tghe boy scouts know morse code, they still arent
intersted in ham radio.




Some old time ham in the area needs to step in and show the scouts how ham
radio and CW can save lives and help communities in emergencies.

Nickle Generals & Extra's have a hard time promoting amateur radio. All
they want to do is promote dumbing it down more. It's no wonder the scouts
aren't interested.


SC
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"an old friend" wrote in message
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jawod wrote:
wrote:
From: jawod on Sun, Aug 20 2006 8:45 pm


So many people need to pump themselves up here. Truly amazing.

indeed why do you do it?

Mostly, it's just Lennie. He "pumps himself up" in hopes that it will
bolster his credibility with the group.


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From: Slow Code on Mon, Aug 21 2006 4:45 pm


"Jimmie D" wrote in
t:

Yes. That's understandable. Hams these days don't want to act like
hams, they like to be appliance operators. So kids don't see that CW
is important and fun. All they see is hams gabbing on a microphone
like any CB'er can do.


SC


Actually a lot of tghe boy scouts know morse code, they still arent
intersted in ham radio.


Some old time ham in the area needs to step in and show the scouts how ham
radio and CW can save lives and help communities in emergencies.


When are you leaving the group to go do that, "Slow?"

Oh, and while you're at it, why don't you inform the group
the date when amateur radio morse code saved ANYONE's life?
Betcha can't do it...

On 7 July 2006 the FCC released its Independent Panel report
on the worst natural disaster to hit the USA, Hurricane
Katrina. You can find it in the Federal Register of that
date. In there you can find an objective report on how much
radio amateurs helped their communities.

BTW, Comments on that Report are due on or before 21 August
2006...today. Have you sent in your Comment, "Slow?" No?

Nickle Generals & Extra's have a hard time promoting amateur radio. All
they want to do is promote dumbing it down more.


Tsk, if anyone was doing "dumbing it down more," they'd have
to outdo your own retrograde, freeze-it-in-YOUR-youth ham
radio, "Slow." Feel proud. You are practically a one-ham
show on dumbing down the service...

It's no wonder the scouts aren't interested.


Tsk, you should have recited your own tale of saving the
Titanic...when you were asleep on the US California...



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From: Slow Code on Mon, Aug 21 2006 4:45 pm


jawod wrote in :

So many people need to pump themselves up here. Truly amazing.


I have no interest in your wife's degrees, your home(s), your friends or
anything else. Nor was any "bluff" intended.


Tsk, tsk, "Jawod" did indeed intimidate through bluff.

Poor baby got stomped on and now he cries "foul." Boo-hoo.


Whew. Sometimes accessing this group is like stepping in dog****.


Usenet radio groups were a lot nicer before ham radio got dumbed down.


"Slow," multiple-choice questions were in place in FCC exams
LONNNNGGGG ago. [many morsemen bitch that those started the
"dumbing-down"]

Privatization of license testing happened BEFORE the Internet
went public and creation of amateur radio newsgroups in what
many still call "USENET." With privatization of testing came
the open question pools.

"Slow," you are very confused on your dates and what happened.


Now the ham radio groups have a CB feel to them.


Awwww...you can't find enough for a group to sit around and
bull**** to one another on how "good" and "magical" is CW?

Must do your self-image a really, really bad whuppin!

Now, you run right out and Save A Life for Hiram Percy, ya
hear? Show them what you can do! Then you can sit around
campfires and molest the ears of young boy scouts...

Beep, beep...



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From: Slow Code on Mon, Aug 21 2006 4:45 pm


jawod wrote in :

So many people need to pump themselves up here. Truly amazing.


I have no interest in your wife's degrees, your home(s), your friends or
anything else. Nor was any "bluff" intended.


Tsk, tsk, "Jawod" did indeed intimidate through bluff.

Poor baby got stomped on and now he cries "foul." Boo-hoo.


Whew. Sometimes accessing this group is like stepping in dog****.


Usenet radio groups were a lot nicer before ham radio got dumbed down.


"Slow," multiple-choice questions were in place in FCC exams
LONNNNGGGG ago. [many morsemen bitch that those started the
"dumbing-down"]

Privatization of license testing happened BEFORE the Internet
went public and creation of amateur radio newsgroups in what
many still call "USENET." With privatization of testing came
the open question pools.

"Slow," you are very confused on your dates and what happened.


Now the ham radio groups have a CB feel to them.


Awwww...you can't find enough for a group to sit around and
bull**** to one another on how "good" and "magical" is CW?

Must do your self-image a really, really bad whuppin!

Now, you run right out and Save A Life for Hiram Percy, ya
hear? Show them what you can do! Then you can sit around
campfires and molest the ears of young boy scouts...

Beep, beep...





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From: an old friend on Mon, Aug 21 2006 3:16 pm


wrote:
From: on Sun, Aug 20 2006 2:57 pm
If the league pushes the morse testing issue too hard, it will become
obvious to the 25% that are members.


I don't think so. The Amateur Radiotelegraphy Society is very
firmly SET in their ideas of keeping the "heritage" and
"tradition" of being a living museum of archaic radio. Those
firm believers and worshippers at the Church of St. Hiram are
disciples and they haven't had their last supper yet.


I have no objection to them trying to prservs thier mode the ARS is big
enough even for unproductive thing


It's "minority rule" when ARRL lobbies for preservation of
morse code test for any amateur radio license class. The
ARRL membership is slightly less than a quarter of all US
amateur radio licensees.

Don't know if you've heard yet, but the ARRL and robesin announced that
MARS and TSA have an agreement for armageddon communications.


Heh heh, I wouldn't doubt it... :-)


[via "giant meteor bounce?" ... off the earth, that is? :-) ]


I thought Robesin had put on his (invisible) USMC uniform and
was busy pounding brass with the USCG offshore from Beirut to
evacuate US civilians? :-)


now that remark I must take you to task for

the last thing we want to sugest that robeson might wear is something
invisible now that image IS a sexauly distrubing one


Ahem...my reference was the old fairy tale, "The Emperor's New
Clothes." :-)

That's the one where a full-of-himself ruler ordered some new
clothes and the tailor buttered him up (while not sewing any
new clothes) so much that the Emperor bought into this pandering
to his ego and appeared in public with his "new clothes" (he was
naked). Needless to say, the public laughed and laughed at this
ridiculous spectacle. :-)

Robeson has been all full of himself in here about his alleged
"USMC service" yet he has presented zero-point-zero evidence
from anyone else (or any legitimate agency) that he ever
served on active USMC duty for any of his claimed "18 years."

Even though he NOW thinks of himself AS the amateur radio
service personified (anything against him is somehow against
ALL radio amateurs), he is still parodying the "Emperor."



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Cecil Moore wrote:

The same is true of sailing ships, hot-air balloons,
and horses. Do what turns you on and leave the
@#$%&$ federal government out of it.


-----------------REPLY BELOW-----------------

Cecil has it exactly right.

Bill, W6WRT


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Some old time ham in the area needs to step in and show the scouts
how ham
radio and CW can save lives and help communities in emergencies.

=====================================

In these days of mobile telephones, etc., morse code just gets in the
way of emergencies.

But there's nothing to prevent people who appreciate and love the
language of Morse, the way it sings, its universality, its beauty,
from continuing to use it way into the future.

It is the beauty of Morse, in plain English, never mind the
abbreviations, which boy scouts and others who show an interest should
be taught to appreciate.
----
Reg, G4FGQ


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Reg Edwards wrote:
But there's nothing to prevent people who appreciate and love the
language of Morse, the way it sings, its universality, its beauty,
from continuing to use it way into the future.


The same is true of sailing ships, hot-air balloons,
and horses. Do what turns you on and leave the
@#$%&$ federal government out of it.
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It was a CQD actually....
but the point is,
the ham immediately alerted the Frankfurt, Olympic, Carpathia, et al and
told them to go save lives! Being simple Marconists however; they all said
'no' so the ham
grabbed his portable radio trunk, strapped a J-38 to his leg, jumped into
his skiff and madly paddled 46 hours straight out to the stricken ship, all
the while tapping
out rescue coordination efforts with his elbow, and.... wait... I forget,
where does it go from there?

rb


"David G. Nagel" wrote in message
...
Cecil Moore wrote:

Dirk wrote:

Ham's care more about operating appliances than knowing how to save a
lives.



How many times in the entire history of amateur radio
has a ham used CW to actually save a life? One would
think there would be a book full of examples by now.


A ham operator intercepted the SOS from the RMS Titanic.



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