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Default If you had to use CW to save someone's life, would that person die?

Me either.
rb

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RLW wrote:
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From: on Wed, Aug 23 2006 7:46 pm


wrote:
From: on Tues, Aug 22 2006 7:14 pm
wrote:
From: on Mon, Aug 21 2006 6:30 pm
wrote:
From: an old friend on Mon, Aug 21 2006 3:16 pm
wrote:
From: on Sun, Aug 20 2006 2:57
pm

Robesin is merely a product of the "incentive" licensing
system where all those who hunger for being a "somebody"
can get a Title - Rank - Privilege through a singular skill.

If it doesn't have rank or a uniform, Robesin isn't interested.

That certainly seems the case. The "uniform" is his
emperor's new clothes...

Lessee. He's got a Marine uniform (he says). A Tennessee State Guard
uniform (whatever that is), an ill-fitting Air Force CAP flight suit
uniform, and a male nurses uniform. And he has lots of military medals
that he never earned (according to him).

You know, whenever I saw folks in the CAP uniform at any Air Force
Base, including Maxwell, they work the 4b or Class A. Never ever saw a
CAP in a flight suit before robesin's well advertised home page.


In all my visits to USAF bases I've never seen any CAP
personnel there, let alone some in a poopy suit. I've seen
several civilians on USAF bases, employed by the USAF, wearing
flight suits and clearly identified as to being civilian.


Saturdays. They bring the kids in for a tour and a meal at the chow
hall.

Oh, I don't know. After a hard day behind the microphone, he's got
that 1,000 yard stare.


That's also a symptom of anoxia...lack of oxygen used up in
his bragging of what he did that never was... :-)

Tsk, all that work he does in trying to bluff us. All he had to
do was present SOME sort of document proof or even a personal
snapshot taken while in that "hostile-action-filled" 18 year
"career" in the USMC. He hasn't done so after many years.

If he can't present a single item of 18 years of his life, it
is hard for the rest of us to believe anything he said.



Well, doggone it, Lennie. Next thing ya know he'll be posting over the
callsign of another Amateur.

Nope...ya just cain't believe guys like that, can you Len?


I don't believe his bs.



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So you guys got sidetracked and missed the CW call so both your guys died.
You are the weakest link.
Goodbye.
rb

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rom: on Thurs, Aug 24 2006 6:39 pm


wrote in message
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From: on Wed, Aug 23 2006 7:46 pm
wrote:
From: on Tues, Aug 22 2006 7:14 pm
wrote:
From: on Mon, Aug 21 2006 6:30 pm
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From: an old friend on Mon, Aug 21 2006 3:16 pm
wrote:
From: on Sun, Aug 20 2006
2:57 pm



In all my visits to USAF bases I've never seen any CAP
personnel there, let alone some in a poopy suit. I've seen
several civilians on USAF bases, employed by the USAF, wearing
flight suits and clearly identified as to being civilian.


Saturdays. They bring the kids in for a tour and a meal at the chow
hall.


OK, that explains it. :-) If I was on-site for some company
business, I wouldn't be there on weekends. :-)

Oh, I don't know. After a hard day behind the microphone, he's got
that 1,000 yard stare.


That's also a symptom of anoxia...lack of oxygen used up in
his bragging of what he did that never was... :-)


Tsk, all that work he does in trying to bluff us. All he had to
do was present SOME sort of document proof or even a personal
snapshot taken while in that "hostile-action-filled" 18 year
"career" in the USMC. He hasn't done so after many years.


If he can't present a single item of 18 years of his life, it
is hard for the rest of us to believe anything he said.


I don't believe his bs.


Any rational, sane person can't believe his claims. Hopefully,
that is most of us reading some of the garbage going on in here
now.

I found it uproarious that Robeson tried to cover up his NOT
naming a single military radio that was operational during his
alleged 18-year "USMC career," claiming "all the information is
classified!" :-)

Absolute bull****. The names, ID, functions have all been in
public view...the 'Public' being the makers or those wanting to
get in on an RFQ (Request for Quote) being advertised by the
DoD. Even though I never operated (as a civilian) anything
more than an old ARC-27 or PRC-119 SINCGARS, all the military
radios operational between the times of those two are easily
recognizeable to me (well, the VRCs have lots of differences
between families but the same case and general form). The
operating manuals are NOT classified, just in limited
distribution. LOGSA the Logistics Supply Agency is busy making
CDs of all the printed manuals for darn near ALL military
equipment; it's a piece of cake to pop one of those CDs in an
ever-present military PC and read them. LOGSA has a website
and even civilians can download some of the older equipment's
manuals. LOGSA has some internal priority on what can be
downloaded (depending on the cookie generated by a non-military
PC). That was a tip I got from rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors
and rec.radio.amateur.homebrew. The nomenclatures and quick-
look facts are on a couple websites in a long, long, long list.
Even BAMA has some manuals for free download plus big link
lists for other sites that have them.

Robesin DID list some (questionable) nomenclatures for MARS
equipment once but NOTHING else. That kind of info can be
had from other hams' personal websites. MARS doesn't
normally talk about regular military tactical radio gear.
MARS doesn't normally use such. :-)





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I saw a C-130 fly almost directly over my house last year. Couldn't see who
was in it though...
rb

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wrote:
from: on Thurs, Aug 24 2006 6:39 pm
wrote in message
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From: on Wed, Aug 23 2006 7:46 pm
wrote:
From: on Tues, Aug 22 2006 7:14 pm
wrote:
From: on Mon, Aug 21 2006 6:30 pm
wrote:
From: an old friend on Mon, Aug 21 2006 3:16 pm
wrote:
From: on Sun, Aug 20 2006
2:57 pm



In all my visits to USAF bases I've never seen any CAP
personnel there, let alone some in a poopy suit. I've seen
several civilians on USAF bases, employed by the USAF, wearing
flight suits and clearly identified as to being civilian.

Saturdays. They bring the kids in for a tour and a meal at the chow
hall.


OK, that explains it. :-) If I was on-site for some company
business, I wouldn't be there on weekends. :-)


I attended 3 weeks of CWPC training at Maxwell AFB in Montgomery,
Alabama. It hosts CAP HQ. Didn't see any CAP uniforms there, either.

Odd, though. The new owner of robesin's old vanity callsign, K4CAP,
resides in Montgomery, Alabama.

Oh, I don't know. After a hard day behind the microphone, he's got
that 1,000 yard stare.

That's also a symptom of anoxia...lack of oxygen used up in
his bragging of what he did that never was... :-)

Tsk, all that work he does in trying to bluff us. All he had to
do was present SOME sort of document proof or even a personal
snapshot taken while in that "hostile-action-filled" 18 year
"career" in the USMC. He hasn't done so after many years.

If he can't present a single item of 18 years of his life, it
is hard for the rest of us to believe anything he said.

I don't believe his bs.


Any rational, sane person can't believe his claims. Hopefully,
that is most of us reading some of the garbage going on in here
now.


Some of the whacko Anon's have championed robesin's cause, whatever it
might be.

I found it uproarious that Robeson tried to cover up his NOT
naming a single military radio that was operational during his
alleged 18-year "USMC career," claiming "all the information is
classified!" :-)


Scuse me while I blow the pepsi out of my nose.

Absolute bull****. The names, ID, functions have all been in
public view...the 'Public' being the makers or those wanting to
get in on an RFQ (Request for Quote) being advertised by the
DoD. Even though I never operated (as a civilian) anything
more than an old ARC-27 or PRC-119 SINCGARS, all the military
radios operational between the times of those two are easily
recognizeable to me (well, the VRCs have lots of differences
between families but the same case and general form). The
operating manuals are NOT classified, just in limited
distribution. LOGSA the Logistics Supply Agency is busy making
CDs of all the printed manuals for darn near ALL military
equipment; it's a piece of cake to pop one of those CDs in an
ever-present military PC and read them. LOGSA has a website
and even civilians can download some of the older equipment's
manuals. LOGSA has some internal priority on what can be
downloaded (depending on the cookie generated by a non-military
PC). That was a tip I got from rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors
and rec.radio.amateur.homebrew. The nomenclatures and quick-
look facts are on a couple websites in a long, long, long list.
Even BAMA has some manuals for free download plus big link
lists for other sites that have them.


Too much work for robesin. So he just "classified" everything. He was
definitely confused by Major Vincent and his key on a necklace. Hah!

Robesin DID list some (questionable) nomenclatures for MARS
equipment once but NOTHING else. That kind of info can be
had from other hams' personal websites. MARS doesn't
normally talk about regular military tactical radio gear.
MARS doesn't normally use such. :-)



If he was involved in MARS, it was probably just to eavesdrop on morale
calls from a lonely GI to his wife or girlfriend back home.



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And as previously stated, slow equals death. If you can't do 20wpm you
should stay off the bands.

rb

Aw, fer Chrissake Woody, kwit yer cryin' and whinin'.




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I knew a SSgt that was also a Major. When he had on his Major Uniform,
he strutted around escorting the JrCAPs to the chow hall to show them
how it's really done.


Cool, so he could wear one of each rank per shoulder and you can just call
him Sgt. Major.

Yet as "chief operator" or ANCOIC of NMC MARS on Okinawa, he remains
woefully ignorant of MARS. I just don't get it.


Uh, hello.... Looks like perfect qualifications for a management position.

He never thought that a mere Army or Air Force NCO would know anything
about MARS.


It's the 4th planet from the Sun, and there's a probe thingy driving in
uncontrollable circles around Deuphus Prime.


Very, very unfortunate for him.


Not good for the probe either...


Seven hostile actions, I'm told. I can't imagine being short-sheeted 7
times by members of my flight.

The marines can fly? I thought they were just to cover the beaches so the
Army doesn't get sand in their boots....

rb


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Woody wrote:
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I knew a SSgt that was also a Major. When he had on his Major Uniform,
he strutted around escorting the JrCAPs to the chow hall to show them
how it's really done.


Cool, so he could wear one of each rank per shoulder and you can just call
him Sgt. Major.


Yikes!

Yet as "chief operator" or ANCOIC of NMC MARS on Okinawa, he remains
woefully ignorant of MARS. I just don't get it.


Uh, hello.... Looks like perfect qualifications for a management position.


I like the way you think.

He never thought that a mere Army or Air Force NCO would know anything
about MARS.


It's the 4th planet from the Sun, and there's a probe thingy driving in
uncontrollable circles around Deuphus Prime.


Careful. You might get him excited with the probe talk.

Very, very unfortunate for him.


Not good for the probe either...


Can't it be factory refurbished?

Seven hostile actions, I'm told. I can't imagine being short-sheeted 7
times by members of my flight.

The marines can fly? I thought they were just to cover the beaches so the
Army doesn't get sand in their boots....


Welp, when the AF took the airplanes away from the Army in 1947...

....this guy named Sikorsky came along and sold them some helicopters.
Anyway, they were a lot of fun and the idea really caught on. Now the
marines have them, too. Robesin says he worked on helicopters in some
capacity, and got hisself involved in 7 hostile actions.

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Woody wrote:
I saw a C-130 fly almost directly over my house last year. Couldn't see who
was in it though...
rb


The aluminum skin of a C130 is sort of hard to see through. The only
craft that I ever saw with a glass underbelly was a tour boat in
Florida.

But you can rest assured that neither robesin nor the CAP was flying
that C130.

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So did your guy die or not?


Which one? You win some, you lose some. In more than twenty years there
were lots. You see until 1995 CW was still being used for serious ship-to-
shore comms. SSB is OK for phone calls but if you want written copy, you
need something that works. And, though we tried it with some fairly good
equipment, RTTY just didn't cut it. What did the job was INMARSAT.
Satellite comms can take place on VHF, UHF and SHF bands that don't
restrict bandwidth. And they can do that because the antenna is finally
high enough to make a real difference.

And that's why I'm watching TV from a 12ghz satellite signal right now.
Putting the antenna that high makes all modes pretty much equal as far as
signal-to-noise goes.

Of course, if a big solar flare takes out a whole bunch of sats, we're
gonna have a comm squeeze.


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