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I don't think things are all that "unfair" with the maximum code speed
we currently test being 5 WPM.

I don't think the code require is necessarily "unfair" somehow, but it does
seem awfully "arbitrary" these days. In *today's* world, it's just one mode
of many, and a rather unpopular one at that.

So where do I fall in this debate? I certainly don't favor the removal
of the code requirement for all license classes. Extra's surely need
to be tested at the current 5 WPM.

If we're going to make people show a certain commitment to amateur radio
before giving them advance privileges -- reasonable enough --, to me it seems
that the study should be of something more people are likely to use... say,
error correction coding theory, or modulator design or something. Or maybe
something even more practical such as demonstrating the ability to perform
link planning (antenna selection, power selection, etc.). I imagine one of
the reasons CW testing remains is because it is so easy to test compared to
those options.

I think I'm pretty much in agreement with you... 5 WPM is not an unreasonable
barrier to entry, and I don't particular oppose keeping it around, but I do
think it seems awfully arbitrary, and this refelcts somewhat poorly on hams as
a group trying to present themselves as modern and professional.

---Joel Kolstad

Joel Kolstad wrote:

I think I'm pretty much in agreement with you... 5 WPM is not an unreasonable
barrier to entry, and I don't particular oppose keeping it around, but I do
think it seems awfully arbitrary, and this refelcts somewhat poorly on hams as
a group trying to present themselves as modern and professional.


Well, we agree that we should keep this requirement, but I don't agree
that CW should seen as reflecting poorly on us hams. CW operation,
albeit old fashion, remains a useful skill that I think should be
encouraged. I do acknowledge that the new digital modes and computer
based CW does make CW skills less necessary, but I don't think we
should consider it old fashion or out of date.

-= Bob =-

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Joel Kolstad wrote:

I think I'm pretty much in agreement with you... 5 WPM is not an
unreasonable
barrier to entry, and I don't particular oppose keeping it around, but
I do
think it seems awfully arbitrary, and this refelcts somewhat poorly on
hams as
a group trying to present themselves as modern and professional.


Well, we agree that we should keep this requirement, but I don't agree
that CW should seen as reflecting poorly on us hams. CW operation,
albeit old fashion, remains a useful skill that I think should be
encouraged. I do acknowledge that the new digital modes and computer
based CW does make CW skills less necessary, but I don't think we
should consider it old fashion or out of date.
it is old fashioned obselete and damaging to the ARS

Not if it keeps you off HF.

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On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 23:15:13 GMT, "U-Know-Who"
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Not if it keeps you off HF.
but it doesn't tom you know that


BTW, you never did say what you use the AL-80 for. Keeping warm in the
winter?

U-Know-Who wrote:
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On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 23:15:13 GMT, "U-Know-Who"
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Not if it keeps you off HF.
but it doesn't tom you know that


BTW, you never did say what you use the AL-80 for. Keeping warm in the
winter?
i don't own one you are showing that you can't or don't read the posts
your coment very well