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Brian,
I have one of these (Genoscope) as well. It is a very interesting
piece of test equipment. The mirror for the scope is the thing
that made me buy mine.

I'm too chicken to hose down the SP-600. I've dealt with
too many radios that had open IF transformers due to corrosion.
I don't want to wash the mouse **** into those IF cans!
I'll do it the hard way. No pain no gain!

Steve
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"g. beat " w9gb@spam protected wrote in message

Brian -

What generator is that you haev on the left side of your workbench.

I think I have only seen one other of these ..... can't remember it
(model)

g. beat



I think your refering to the Simpson Genescope. Very neat peice of gear. I
got it from Chuck Dachis a few years ago. Heres a little info on it:
http://members.cox.net/dalehcook/rad...es/multi.shtml


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Brian,
I have one of these (Genoscope) as well. It is a very interesting
piece of test equipment. The mirror for the scope is the thing
that made me buy mine.

I'm too chicken to hose down the SP-600. I've dealt with
too many radios that had open IF transformers due to corrosion.
I don't want to wash the mouse **** into those IF cans!
I'll do it the hard way. No pain no gain!


You dont want to drench the cans. Just rinse the deck with a controled
spray. Have fun.

BH


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Steve wrote:
Brian,

I'm too chicken to hose down the SP-600. I've dealt with
too many radios that had open IF transformers due to corrosion.
I don't want to wash the mouse **** into those IF cans!
I'll do it the hard way. No pain no gain!


Sounds like a candiate for the dishwasher treatment. Believe it or not,
several of our members report running really cruddy radios through the
dishwasher with good results. You might do a Google Groups search to
find the relevant details re sealing up transformers, etc.

Bill
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"Steve" wrote in message
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I've always been a sucker for lost causes and high tube
count
boatanchors, so when I came across this SP-600 I had to
have it. This beast had been sitting on the floor of a
damp garage
for decades unprotected. I spent 3 hour cleaning out
mouse
turds and black widow webs.


Take it outside and hose it off. You wont hurt it. If you
need parts email me.
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B.H.
Southern, MN USA
Radios- R-5000, NRD525,SP-600,SX-28,Eton E1



I will pass along a method of cleaning used at
Hewlett-Packard many years ago. We washed equipment sent in
for overhaul using a paint spray gun filled with warm water
and dishwashing detergent. This, along with a soft brush,
would remove most dirt and junk. Once washed the equipment
was rinsed off using a sprayer hose attachment and dried in
an electric oven for several days at about 130F. Remove
anything that can be damaged by moisture, meters for
instance. We also found a high rate of failure of
hermetically sealed transformers and chokes. This is
counterintuitive but if the seal is leaky moisture can get
in and has a hard time getting out again despite the baking.
I don't know what effect this will have on the ferrite cores
in the SP-600, maybe none.


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Los Angeles, CA, USA



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I will pass along a method of cleaning used at Hewlett-Packard many
years ago. We washed equipment sent in for overhaul using a paint spray
gun filled with warm water and dishwashing detergent. This, along with a
soft brush, would remove most dirt and junk. Once washed the equipment was
rinsed off using a sprayer hose attachment and dried in an electric oven
for several days at about 130F. Remove anything that can be damaged by
moisture, meters for instance. We also found a high rate of failure of
hermetically sealed transformers and chokes. This is counterintuitive but
if the seal is leaky moisture can get in and has a hard time getting out
again despite the baking. I don't know what effect this will have on the
ferrite cores in the SP-600, maybe none.


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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA



You dont spray inside the cans. You gotta use your head. I otta make a
video.

BH




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I will pass along a method of cleaning used at
Hewlett-Packard many years ago. We washed equipment sent
in for overhaul using a paint spray gun filled with warm
water and dishwashing detergent. This, along with a soft
brush, would remove most dirt and junk. Once washed the
equipment was rinsed off using a sprayer hose attachment
and dried in an electric oven for several days at about
130F. Remove anything that can be damaged by moisture,
meters for instance. We also found a high rate of failure
of hermetically sealed transformers and chokes. This is
counterintuitive but if the seal is leaky moisture can
get in and has a hard time getting out again despite the
baking. I don't know what effect this will have on the
ferrite cores in the SP-600, maybe none.


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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA



You dont spray inside the cans. You gotta use your head. I
otta make a video.

BH

Well, you can seal off the holes the adjusters come out
of. I would take the cans off because they will trap
moisture.


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Well, you can seal off the holes the adjusters come out of. I would take
the cans off because they will trap moisture.


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Los Angeles, CA, USA



Yep thats fine.


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And, what is the problem. What would you do if, instead, you found a brand
new, in the box, SP-600. You would have to leave it in the box and not
touch it. Even worse would be to find one in a sealed box. Then, you could
x-ray it and store it safely.

But, in your case, you will restore it and know every inch of it. And,
because it is less than perfect, you can use it. You can even make
modifications to it without getting the blessing from the pope.

If you do not have 1/2 a dozen rigs in your collection that start out like
that, you do not have much of a collection. I know some collectors that
consider every rig that is a bit less than perfect as a parts rig. That is
an admission of failure.

Colin K7FM


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If you do not have 1/2 a dozen rigs in your collection that start out like
that, you do not have much of a collection. I know some collectors that
consider every rig that is a bit less than perfect as a parts rig. That
is an admission of failure.

Colin K7FM

Sounds like my Weller TCP-1 collection !!

They all work from the 1966 black bakelite to the last Navy contract
1976/1977 versions

Just picked up a Weller (UK) version -- that has Bulgin plug. That plug
arrives later this week - and then this one will be mated with matching
iron.

When does it end? ever?

w9gb


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Colin,
No problem here. I'm happy to have it! All I was saying is
I've never seen a radio in this kind of condition, and thats
in 35+ years as a ham and collector of radio stuff.
I cannot describe its condition.....you'd have to see
(and smell) it. It will be a major challenge to restore.

I already have an SP-600 in near mint condition that
stays inside next to all of my other nice stuff. This latest
radio will never be mint, but will end up in my garage
shop to replace a Realistic DX-160. Useful for listening
to the 40 meter swap net, and WWV to cal my counter
timebase.

Steve
p.s.-I'm not a 'leave it on the shelf' collector....all of my
equipment gets used.

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And, what is the problem. What would you do if, instead, you found a
brand new, in the box, SP-600. You would have to leave it in the box and
not touch it. Even worse would be to find one in a sealed box. Then, you
could x-ray it and store it safely.

But, in your case, you will restore it and know every inch of it. And,
because it is less than perfect, you can use it. You can even make
modifications to it without getting the blessing from the pope.

If you do not have 1/2 a dozen rigs in your collection that start out like
that, you do not have much of a collection. I know some collectors that
consider every rig that is a bit less than perfect as a parts rig. That
is an admission of failure.

Colin K7FM





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