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You could be right, I'm only going on "fleeting" memory. I do recall
though - seeing a few "metal" tubes in High School shop class way back
when - and as I said, I am sure I have a metal tube or two in my stock. As
to the number, who knows! I do know - about 14 years ago - I smashed a LOT
of tubes used in older radios of the 40s and so - and more so of car radios
and tvs. Try as I might to get rid of them then, no luck. E-Bay was not yet
born - DAMNED! Now I have to look in my tube stock, the curiousity is
getting to me.

"826" wrote in message ...
Hi,
It was only made with a glass envelope. Some had metal bases.
Vern

"Radiosrfun" wrote in message
...
Steel or other sort of metal, i'm not sure - seems to me - there was in
fact a metal 6SN7. I further believe I have one in my stock of tubes -
somewhere. IF I can find time to look - and do find one - will send the
interested party - a photo of it.

"Henry Kolesnik" wrote in message
. ..
I've never seen or heard of a steel 6SN7 and I started with tubes in the
early fifties. Now you have me wondering about metal tubes and except
for 6L6 most were real popular in car radios and 5 tube ac dc, also
military. Does anyone recall the first metal tube, who made it, why and
what they touted as their advantage other than it wouldn't break if
dropped. I also recall a real hi power amp being made with 6L6s that
were cooled by them hanging udside down from the chassis in a bowl of
water and others immersed them in oil.


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Hank WD5JFR
"Theo" wrote in message
...
Regarding the "all metal" tubes series by RCA,
can anyone tell me if there was ever a metal version
of the 6SN7?
I cannot find any reference on the web.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.









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Old February 22nd 07, 09:31 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors
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Metal tubes were the first octal based tubes (1935). The GT came later.

Tube Lore, by Ludwell Sibley (http://www.eht.com/oldradio/tubelore/) is a
must have if you want to go deeper into the history of tubes.

The 6SN7 was always a GT.

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Radiosrfun wrote:
You could be right, I'm only going on "fleeting" memory. I do recall
though - seeing a few "metal" tubes in High School shop class way back
when - and as I said, I am sure I have a metal tube or two in my stock. As
to the number, who knows! I do know - about 14 years ago - I smashed a LOT
of tubes used in older radios of the 40s and so - and more so of car radios
and tvs. Try as I might to get rid of them then, no luck. E-Bay was not yet
born - DAMNED! Now I have to look in my tube stock, the curiousity is
getting to me.

"826" wrote in message ...
Hi,
It was only made with a glass envelope. Some had metal bases.
Vern

"Radiosrfun" wrote in message
...
Steel or other sort of metal, i'm not sure - seems to me - there was in
fact a metal 6SN7. I further believe I have one in my stock of tubes -
somewhere. IF I can find time to look - and do find one - will send the
interested party - a photo of it.

"Henry Kolesnik" wrote in message
. ..
I've never seen or heard of a steel 6SN7 and I started with tubes in the
early fifties. Now you have me wondering about metal tubes and except
for 6L6 most were real popular in car radios and 5 tube ac dc, also
military. Does anyone recall the first metal tube, who made it, why and
what they touted as their advantage other than it wouldn't break if
dropped. I also recall a real hi power amp being made with 6L6s that
were cooled by them hanging udside down from the chassis in a bowl of
water and others immersed them in oil.


--

73
Hank WD5JFR
"Theo" wrote in message
...
Regarding the "all metal" tubes series by RCA,
can anyone tell me if there was ever a metal version
of the 6SN7?
I cannot find any reference on the web.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.






Here is a link to an old "Woodie Deluxe" circa 1946 to 1948 that came
with a metal 6SN7 as the preamp.

http://www.ampwares.com/ffg/deluxe_woodie.html

This next link shows a guy that had 10 of them for sale.

http://listserv.tempe.gov/admin/WA.E...=-3&S=&P=46879

Here is a quote and link to a store that has them in stock.

"Whether you need a specific nuvister, or the
metal version of a 6SN7, we've got it in stock."

http://www.wizardelectronics.com/parts.htm

It is possible they might be referring to the metal base in all these too.

I couldn't find a good picture of one in my limited search.

73,
Paul
WD8OSU
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"Paul E. Cater" wrote in message
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Radiosrfun wrote:
You could be right, I'm only going on "fleeting" memory.
I do recall though - seeing a few "metal" tubes in High
School shop class way back when - and as I said, I am
sure I have a metal tube or two in my stock. As to the
number, who knows! I do know - about 14 years ago - I
smashed a LOT of tubes used in older radios of the 40s
and so - and more so of car radios and tvs. Try as I
might to get rid of them then, no luck. E-Bay was not yet
born - DAMNED! Now I have to look in my tube stock, the
curiousity is getting to me.

"826" wrote in message
...
Hi,
It was only made with a glass envelope. Some had metal
bases.
Vern

"Radiosrfun" wrote in
message
...
Steel or other sort of metal, i'm not sure - seems to
me - there was in fact a metal 6SN7. I further believe
I have one in my stock of tubes - somewhere. IF I can
find time to look - and do find one - will send the
interested party - a photo of it.

"Henry Kolesnik" wrote
in message
. ..
I've never seen or heard of a steel 6SN7 and I started
with tubes in the early fifties. Now you have me
wondering about metal tubes and except for 6L6 most
were real popular in car radios and 5 tube ac dc, also
military. Does anyone recall the first metal tube, who
made it, why and what they touted as their advantage
other than it wouldn't break if dropped. I also
recall a real hi power amp being made with 6L6s that
were cooled by them hanging udside down from the
chassis in a bowl of water and others immersed them in
oil.


--

73
Hank WD5JFR
"Theo" wrote in message
...
Regarding the "all metal" tubes series by RCA,
can anyone tell me if there was ever a metal version
of the 6SN7?
I cannot find any reference on the web.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.






Here is a link to an old "Woodie Deluxe" circa 1946 to
1948 that came with a metal 6SN7 as the preamp.

http://www.ampwares.com/ffg/deluxe_woodie.html

This next link shows a guy that had 10 of them for sale.

http://listserv.tempe.gov/admin/WA.E...=-3&S=&P=46879

Here is a quote and link to a store that has them in
stock.

"Whether you need a specific nuvister, or the
metal version of a 6SN7, we've got it in stock."

http://www.wizardelectronics.com/parts.htm

It is possible they might be referring to the metal base
in all these too.

I couldn't find a good picture of one in my limited
search.

73,
Paul
WD8OSU


Well, it looks like there _were_ metal 6SN7's, the
amplifier definitely has three glass and two metal tubes.
Its odd I can't remember ever seeing one and I have been
working with tubes since there was nother else.


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This is a wild guess but as best I recall the 6SN7 was used mainly in
low freq. multivibrator circuits in radar and TV and weren't shielded so
there was no need for a metal shield. It cam after the craze of metal
tubes wore off.

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"Richard Knoppow" wrote in message
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"Paul E. Cater" wrote in message
...
Radiosrfun wrote:
You could be right, I'm only going on "fleeting" memory. I do recall
though - seeing a few "metal" tubes in High School shop class way
back when - and as I said, I am sure I have a metal tube or two in
my stock. As to the number, who knows! I do know - about 14 years
ago - I smashed a LOT of tubes used in older radios of the 40s and
so - and more so of car radios and tvs. Try as I might to get rid of
them then, no luck. E-Bay was not yet born - DAMNED! Now I have to
look in my tube stock, the curiousity is getting to me.

"826" wrote in message
...
Hi,
It was only made with a glass envelope. Some had metal bases.
Vern

"Radiosrfun" wrote in message
...
Steel or other sort of metal, i'm not sure - seems to me - there
was in fact a metal 6SN7. I further believe I have one in my stock
of tubes - somewhere. IF I can find time to look - and do find
one - will send the interested party - a photo of it.

"Henry Kolesnik" wrote in message
. ..
I've never seen or heard of a steel 6SN7 and I started with tubes
in the early fifties. Now you have me wondering about metal
tubes and except for 6L6 most were real popular in car radios and
5 tube ac dc, also military. Does anyone recall the first metal
tube, who made it, why and what they touted as their advantage
other than it wouldn't break if dropped. I also recall a real hi
power amp being made with 6L6s that were cooled by them hanging
udside down from the chassis in a bowl of water and others
immersed them in oil.


--

73
Hank WD5JFR
"Theo" wrote in message
...
Regarding the "all metal" tubes series by RCA,
can anyone tell me if there was ever a metal version
of the 6SN7?
I cannot find any reference on the web.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.






Here is a link to an old "Woodie Deluxe" circa 1946 to 1948 that came
with a metal 6SN7 as the preamp.

http://www.ampwares.com/ffg/deluxe_woodie.html

This next link shows a guy that had 10 of them for sale.

http://listserv.tempe.gov/admin/WA.E...=-3&S=&P=46879

Here is a quote and link to a store that has them in stock.

"Whether you need a specific nuvister, or the
metal version of a 6SN7, we've got it in stock."

http://www.wizardelectronics.com/parts.htm

It is possible they might be referring to the metal base in all these
too.

I couldn't find a good picture of one in my limited search.

73,
Paul
WD8OSU


Well, it looks like there _were_ metal 6SN7's, the amplifier
definitely has three glass and two metal tubes. Its odd I can't
remember ever seeing one and I have been working with tubes since
there was nother else.


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Los Angeles, CA, USA



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Here is a link to an old "Woodie Deluxe" circa 1946 to 1948 that came
with a metal 6SN7 as the preamp.

http://www.ampwares.com/ffg/deluxe_woodie.html


The photo shows glass 6SN7GT. There are two metal 6v6. The description
doesn't match the photos.

6SN7GT were often coated on the inside for shielding.
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