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Default Bliley BG9D 100 kHz (kc) Glass Octal Crystal


Okay, so I broke down and got a couple of Bliley glass octal 100 Kc
frequency standard crystal, model BG9D.

Now I am looking for data on this part. Google doesn't turn up
anything, other than some nice photos
(http://www.leapsecond.com/museum/ear...00khz-tube.jpg)

Anyone have a data sheet on this thing?

It is easy to hook up, but it would be nice to know what drive level
and load it was optimized for.

TIA.

Steve.
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NOVATECH INSTRUMENTS, INC. P.O. Box 55997
206.301.8986, fax 206.363.4367 Seattle, Washington 98155 USA

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Default Bliley BG9D 100 kHz (kc) Glass Octal Crystal

Steven Swift wrote:
Okay, so I broke down and got a couple of Bliley glass octal 100 Kc
frequency standard crystal, model BG9D.

Now I am looking for data on this part. Google doesn't turn up
anything, other than some nice photos
(http://www.leapsecond.com/museum/ear...00khz-tube.jpg)

Anyone have a data sheet on this thing?

It is easy to hook up, but it would be nice to know what drive level
and load it was optimized for.

TIA.

Steve.

I could only suggest your searching for an old Allied Radio
catalog. I remember seeing Bliley as one of the brands
listed, and there were usually parameters there. You
wouldn't be too wrong with an ARRL Handbook circuit, if
you're going "tube." There's enough "wiggle room" in the
tolerances. Tube-type pre-PLL decade dividers, mixers, and
multipliers weren't even twinkles in the designers' eyes
when those xtals were ground.

W9NPI
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afcsman writes:

Steven Swift wrote:
Okay, so I broke down and got a couple of Bliley glass octal 100 Kc
frequency standard crystal, model BG9D.

Now I am looking for data on this part. Google doesn't turn up
anything, other than some nice photos
(http://www.leapsecond.com/museum/ear...00khz-tube.jpg)

Anyone have a data sheet on this thing?

It is easy to hook up, but it would be nice to know what drive level
and load it was optimized for.

TIA.

Steve.

I could only suggest your searching for an old Allied Radio
catalog. I remember seeing Bliley as one of the brands
listed, and there were usually parameters there. You
wouldn't be too wrong with an ARRL Handbook circuit, if
you're going "tube." There's enough "wiggle room" in the
tolerances. Tube-type pre-PLL decade dividers, mixers, and
multipliers weren't even twinkles in the designers' eyes
when those xtals were ground.


W9NPI


Thanks.

I found some pin-out and some simple info. I didn't think of any old
Allied catalog.
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Steven D. Swift, , http://www.novatech-instr.com
NOVATECH INSTRUMENTS, INC. P.O. Box 55997
206.301.8986, fax 206.363.4367 Seattle, Washington 98155 USA

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(Steven Swift) writes:

I found some pin-out and some simple info. I didn't think of any old
Allied catalog.
--
Steven D. Swift,
, http://www.novatech-instr.com
NOVATECH INSTRUMENTS, INC. P.O. Box 55997
206.301.8986, fax 206.363.4367 Seattle, Washington 98155 USA


I want to thank all those who helped, especially Dana at the Bliley
corporation who sent me this:

http://novatech-instr.com/Fun/BG9DS.pdf

Same pin out as the octal crystals used in the BC-221 (DC-9) and others.

Building a 70 C oven will be kind of fun.

I wonder how good it will check against the GPS locked Rubidium standards
at work.

Actually, it was Meshna surplus who caused my fixation on prefect frequency
with his "10 FT-243 Crystals for $1" many years ago. Postage was cheap in
the 60s.

Thanks again.

Steve.
--
Steven D. Swift, , http://www.novatech-instr.com
NOVATECH INSTRUMENTS, INC. P.O. Box 55997
206.301.8986, fax 206.363.4367 Seattle, Washington 98155 USA

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Default Bliley BG9D 100 kHz (kc) Glass Octal Crystal

Steven Swift wrote:
(Steven Swift) writes:

I found some pin-out and some simple info. I didn't think of any old
Allied catalog.
--
Steven D. Swift,
, http://www.novatech-instr.com
NOVATECH INSTRUMENTS, INC. P.O. Box 55997
206.301.8986, fax 206.363.4367 Seattle, Washington 98155 USA


I want to thank all those who helped, especially Dana at the Bliley
corporation who sent me this:

http://novatech-instr.com/Fun/BG9DS.pdf

Same pin out as the octal crystals used in the BC-221 (DC-9) and others.

Building a 70 C oven will be kind of fun.

I wonder how good it will check against the GPS locked Rubidium standards
at work.

Actually, it was Meshna surplus who caused my fixation on prefect frequency
with his "10 FT-243 Crystals for $1" many years ago. Postage was cheap in
the 60s.

Thanks again.

Steve.

Meshna. Yeah, he's why I learned to spread grit & water
over a piece of glass, use a figure-8 motion 6 times, turn
the quartz square 90 degrees, repeat the figure-8 motion,
etc. Mom wouldn't let me play with Hydrofluoric Acid, for
some lame reason. Even drilled & tapped some FT-243 holders
to vary pressure on the spring so I could VXO on 15-meters.
THAT Meshna...
--W9NPI, ex-KN8***


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On 2/15/08 7:54 AM, in article , "Steven Swift"
wrote:

(Steven Swift) writes:

I found some pin-out and some simple info. I didn't think of any old
Allied catalog.
--
Steven D. Swift,
, http://www.novatech-instr.com
NOVATECH INSTRUMENTS, INC. P.O. Box 55997
206.301.8986, fax 206.363.4367 Seattle, Washington 98155 USA


I want to thank all those who helped, especially Dana at the Bliley
corporation who sent me this:

http://novatech-instr.com/Fun/BG9DS.pdf

Same pin out as the octal crystals used in the BC-221 (DC-9) and others.

Building a 70 C oven will be kind of fun.

I wonder how good it will check against the GPS locked Rubidium standards
at work.


You aren't serious I hope. "Good" will not be observed in the contrast.



Actually, it was Meshna surplus who caused my fixation on prefect frequency
with his "10 FT-243 Crystals for $1" many years ago. Postage was cheap in
the 60s.

Thanks again.

Steve.


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Default Bliley BG9D 100 kHz (kc) Glass Octal Crystal

On Feb 13, 7:52*pm, (Steven Swift) wrote:
Okay, so I broke down and got a couple of Bliley glass octal 100 Kc
frequency standard crystal, model BG9D.

Now I am looking for data on this part. Google doesn't turn up
anything, other than some nice photos
(http://www.leapsecond.com/museum/ear...00khz-tube.jpg)

Anyone have a data sheet on this thing?


I just googled bliley and they have a nice website.

Have you tried contacting Bliley directly?

www.bliley.com

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