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Hello to the group,
I have been restoring a Hallicrafters SX 140 and it now receives
well and is quite sensitive, but the S meter barely moves. Is this
normal for this receiver or should it move quite a bit like most other
Halli's? Does anyone know if there were any errors on the schematic or
if this radio has any trouble spots? Any hints? 73 Mike KF6KXG
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tchrme wrote:
Hello to the group,
I have been restoring a Hallicrafters SX 140 and it now receives
well and is quite sensitive, but the S meter barely moves. Is this
normal for this receiver or should it move quite a bit like most other
Halli's? Does anyone know if there were any errors on the schematic or
if this radio has any trouble spots? Any hints? 73 Mike KF6KXG


Look at the voltage on the AGC line and see. If the AGC voltage is
in the ballpark, there's an issue with the meter or the resistors that
feed it. If the AGC voltage is way off, the receiver may be TOO
sensitive.
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A short while back I posted my findings on an SX-140 resurrection.
You should be able to find it by searching here. Silver mica disease
is all too prevalent nowadays so if thats not an issue for you then
the rest is pretty reliable.
As for the meter...I really haven't paid much attention to it because
its such a cheap bouncy thing but it does seem to read about what I
would expect.

Bill W X 4 A
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On Feb 21, 11:30 am, exray wrote:
A short while back I posted my findings on an SX-140 resurrection.
You should be able to find it by searching here. Silver mica disease
is all too prevalent nowadays so if thats not an issue for you then
the rest is pretty reliable.
As for the meter...I really haven't paid much attention to it because
its such a cheap bouncy thing but it does seem to read about what I
would expect.

Bill W X 4 A


Thank you Scott and Bill for your suggestions. After some more time
spent on it, the S meter will read almost full scale when picking up a
nearby sig gen or for the built in crystal calibrator, but barely
moves on other signals. I replaced a tube, most caps, the out of spec
resistors and checked the pots. Could the caps in the IF's be bad if
the audio reception works well but the S meter only work on very
strong signals? I thought the symtom of bad IF caps is thunder crashes
and poor audio. I haven't found anything pulling down the AVC. 73 Mike
KF6KXG
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"tchrme" wrote in message
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On Feb 21, 11:30 am, exray wrote:
A short while back I posted my findings on an SX-140
resurrection.
You should be able to find it by searching here. Silver
mica disease
is all too prevalent nowadays so if thats not an issue
for you then
the rest is pretty reliable.
As for the meter...I really haven't paid much attention
to it because
its such a cheap bouncy thing but it does seem to read
about what I
would expect.

Bill W X 4 A


Thank you Scott and Bill for your suggestions. After some
more time
spent on it, the S meter will read almost full scale when
picking up a
nearby sig gen or for the built in crystal calibrator, but
barely
moves on other signals. I replaced a tube, most caps, the
out of spec
resistors and checked the pots. Could the caps in the IF's
be bad if
the audio reception works well but the S meter only work
on very
strong signals? I thought the symtom of bad IF caps is
thunder crashes
and poor audio. I haven't found anything pulling down the
AVC. 73 Mike
KF6KXG


Bad tuning caps in the IF can cause frequency
instability. The tuning may change from cold to warm. This
is typical of bad mica caps. Bad by-pass or decoupling caps
can cause instability in the form of oscillation, low gain
and other problems. Paper type caps can go bad with age and
should be replaced with more modern ceramic or plastic
types.
I think the mica cap desease mentioned above may be a
rapid instability which shows up as an irregular warbling
where the caps are in the local oscillator. This is
sometimes called scintellation. I am not sure of the cause
but it seems fairly common in silvered-mica types in molded
cases.


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Los Angeles, CA, USA





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There's several different bad modes of failing/failed mica caps in the
IF xfmrs. As related to gain as long as the xfmr shows good peaks
during alignment the value should be correct. The thunderstorm noise
and intermittent operation usually occur before the thing goes
completely open.

Are you getting regeneration? I found I could not achieve
regeneration until everything was quite up to par. That seems like a
good measure of its overall health so if there are still problems with
the meter in the AM mode that might be localized to something more
specific than general IF gain.

-Bill
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