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Old October 10th 03, 12:58 AM
Tony Angerame
 
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Back in 1977 there was a circuit published widely that claimed to
correct drift in a vfo by sampling the output, downconverting it,
comparing it with a crystal oscillator then correcting a varicap in
the vfo. Has anyone ever tried this? How well did it work? This
circuit, if it works, could be resurrected and bring a lot of the
older Boatanchor Rigs back on the air. It was called an FLL or
Frequency Locked Loop and was not very complicated.


Tony WA6LZH
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Old October 10th 03, 09:26 AM
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On 9 Oct 2003 16:58:37 -0700, Tony Angerame wrote:
Back in 1977 there was a circuit published widely that claimed to
correct drift in a vfo by sampling the output, downconverting it,
comparing it with a crystal oscillator then correcting a varicap in
the vfo. Has anyone ever tried this? How well did it work? This
circuit, if it works, could be resurrected and bring a lot of the
older Boatanchor Rigs back on the air. It was called an FLL or
Frequency Locked Loop and was not very complicated.


Known colloquially as a "Huff and Puff" stabilizer of which PA0KSBs
one is an improved version. There was a simplified version of
PA0KSBs circuit published by G3DXZ, and a faster one by G7IXH.
They were discussed at length in the Radio Society of Great Britains
magazine "Radcom" in 1996 and 97, but that's probably not much help
to you. I believe that G7IXHs version was published in QEX in 1998
if that helps.
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On 9 Oct 2003 16:58:37 -0700, Tony Angerame wrote:
Back in 1977 there was a circuit published widely that claimed to
correct drift in a vfo by sampling the output, downconverting it,
comparing it with a crystal oscillator then correcting a varicap in
the vfo. Has anyone ever tried this? How well did it work? This
circuit, if it works, could be resurrected and bring a lot of the
older Boatanchor Rigs back on the air. It was called an FLL or
Frequency Locked Loop and was not very complicated.


Known colloquially as a "Huff and Puff" stabilizer of which PA0KSBs
one is an improved version. There was a simplified version of
PA0KSBs circuit published by G3DXZ, and a faster one by G7IXH.
They were discussed at length in the Radio Society of Great Britains
magazine "Radcom" in 1996 and 97, but that's probably not much help
to you. I believe that G7IXHs version was published in QEX in 1998
if that helps.
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Cheers,
Stan Barr stanb .at. dial .dot. pipex .dot. com
(Remove any digits from the addresses when mailing me.)

The future was never like this!
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"Stan Barr" wrote


Back in 1977 there was a circuit published widely that claimed to
correct drift in a vfo by sampling the output, downconverting it,
comparing it with a crystal oscillator then correcting a varicap in
the vfo. Has anyone ever tried this? How well did it work? This
circuit, if it works, could be resurrected and bring a lot of the
older Boatanchor Rigs back on the air. It was called an FLL or
Frequency Locked Loop and was not very complicated.


Known colloquially as a "Huff and Puff" stabilizer of which PA0KSBs
one is an improved version. There was a simplified version of
PA0KSBs circuit published by G3DXZ, and a faster one by G7IXH.
They were discussed at length in the Radio Society of Great Britains
magazine "Radcom" in 1996 and 97, but that's probably not much help
to you. I believe that G7IXHs version was published in QEX in 1998
if that helps.



**** Hewlett Packard used this principle with the HP8708A Synchroniser
which was used with the HP 606B and HP608F signal generators.It would
lock them down to a very small frequency range.

Brian Goldsmith.


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Old October 10th 03, 10:29 AM
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"Stan Barr" wrote


Back in 1977 there was a circuit published widely that claimed to
correct drift in a vfo by sampling the output, downconverting it,
comparing it with a crystal oscillator then correcting a varicap in
the vfo. Has anyone ever tried this? How well did it work? This
circuit, if it works, could be resurrected and bring a lot of the
older Boatanchor Rigs back on the air. It was called an FLL or
Frequency Locked Loop and was not very complicated.


Known colloquially as a "Huff and Puff" stabilizer of which PA0KSBs
one is an improved version. There was a simplified version of
PA0KSBs circuit published by G3DXZ, and a faster one by G7IXH.
They were discussed at length in the Radio Society of Great Britains
magazine "Radcom" in 1996 and 97, but that's probably not much help
to you. I believe that G7IXHs version was published in QEX in 1998
if that helps.



**** Hewlett Packard used this principle with the HP8708A Synchroniser
which was used with the HP 606B and HP608F signal generators.It would
lock them down to a very small frequency range.

Brian Goldsmith.




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Old October 10th 03, 02:22 PM
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Known colloquially as a "Huff and Puff" stabilizer of which PA0KSBs
one is an improved version.

A nice web site on this is
http://www.hanssummers.com/radio/huffpuff/contents.htm
There are lots of downloadable papers there also.


Sverre
Asker, Norway
www.qsl.net/LA3ZA


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Old October 10th 03, 02:22 PM
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Known colloquially as a "Huff and Puff" stabilizer of which PA0KSBs
one is an improved version.

A nice web site on this is
http://www.hanssummers.com/radio/huffpuff/contents.htm
There are lots of downloadable papers there also.


Sverre
Asker, Norway
www.qsl.net/LA3ZA


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Old October 11th 03, 08:10 AM
Tony Angerame
 
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Thanks Stan, Brian and Sverre. I think I'll check out the URL for the
simplified and improved version. Good info. I guess if it's simple enough
it's worth a try. I'll let you know if I do and what results.

73 Tony WA6LZH

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Back in 1977 there was a circuit published widely that claimed to
correct drift in a vfo by sampling the output, downconverting it,
comparing it with a crystal oscillator then correcting a varicap in
the vfo. Has anyone ever tried this? How well did it work? This
circuit, if it works, could be resurrected and bring a lot of the
older Boatanchor Rigs back on the air. It was called an FLL or
Frequency Locked Loop and was not very complicated.


Tony WA6LZH



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Tony Angerame
 
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Thanks Stan, Brian and Sverre. I think I'll check out the URL for the
simplified and improved version. Good info. I guess if it's simple enough
it's worth a try. I'll let you know if I do and what results.

73 Tony WA6LZH

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Back in 1977 there was a circuit published widely that claimed to
correct drift in a vfo by sampling the output, downconverting it,
comparing it with a crystal oscillator then correcting a varicap in
the vfo. Has anyone ever tried this? How well did it work? This
circuit, if it works, could be resurrected and bring a lot of the
older Boatanchor Rigs back on the air. It was called an FLL or
Frequency Locked Loop and was not very complicated.


Tony WA6LZH



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