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Brian Hill January 6th 04 10:39 PM

SX-28 Scarce? I Don't Think so!!
 
Why would someone that obviously knows about radios and collects them make
a bull**** statement like this? Everybody knows the SX-28 was one of the
most mass produced receivers of that era and are still plentiful. It ****es
me off when people that claim to be collector or lover of the radio hobby
exaggerate or lie to make an extra buck on a radio. Yes I'm speaking of a
certain place people auction radios. People like this won't get my buck.
--
73 and good DXing
RX:
R-5000, SP-600 JX-6, SX-28
Ant:
100' longwire, Evesdropper Dipole

Brian's Radio Universe
http://webpages.charter.net/brianehill/



Nc183d January 6th 04 11:55 PM

Is it possible that SX28's were kinda scarce and the more prevalent SX28A was
the more plentiful one?


JJ January 7th 04 12:09 AM

Ebay sellers are greatly known for the abuse of the words "scarce", and
"rare". After all if they use those words it might get another bid or
two, makes no difference that they have done no research or have any
other information to base it on. The idea is to get another buck.

Brian Hill wrote:

Why would someone that obviously knows about radios and collects them make
a bull**** statement like this? Everybody knows the SX-28 was one of the
most mass produced receivers of that era and are still plentiful. It ****es
me off when people that claim to be collector or lover of the radio hobby
exaggerate or lie to make an extra buck on a radio. Yes I'm speaking of a
certain place people auction radios. People like this won't get my buck.



Brian Hill January 7th 04 12:12 AM


Yes there are probably less of the 28s than 28As but neither is scarce.



Michael A. Terrell January 7th 04 01:24 AM

JJ wrote:

Ebay sellers are greatly known for the abuse of the words "scarce", and
"rare". After all if they use those words it might get another bid or
two, makes no difference that they have done no research or have any
other information to base it on. The idea is to get another buck.


You don't understand! They mean that it would be rare, or scarce to
find a collector who doesn't already have one.

--
We now return you to our normally scheduled programming.

Take a look at this little cutie! ;-)
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Central Florida

Brian Denley January 7th 04 03:14 AM

Brian Hill wrote:
Yes there are probably less of the 28s than 28As but neither is
scarce.


There were a great many shipped to the Soviet Union during the war as well.

--
Brian Denley
http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html



Mark Oppat January 7th 04 06:20 AM

keep in mind about 70% of all ebay sellers are WOMEN! They dont have a clue
about some things, notably radios, and , are more likely to just say
whatever they feel.... based in fact or not. To them, or any guy who is not
seriously into radio, that is a RARE radio! And, in fact, you could go to
about 2000 garage sales and not find one...which is their basis for reality.
so, cut these folks some slack. We are into this stuff DEEP, so to us its
common. Well, not exactly common, anymore, anyway. I go to about 8 swaps a
year, most antique radio , some ham, and I have not seen one in the last
year or so for sale...so, its not as common as you think. but, like I said,
consider the sellers are not as "into" this as we are, and yeah, they are
hoping to get the best $ they can, who isnt? Not you? I bet you always try
to make your items sound good when (or if) you ever sell. We all do, its
natural.
But, I dont lie... and, saying its "rare" is technically a lie, but like I
said, in their world it is... and, in ours, its becoming true too....except
if you look at all the other SX-28's on eBay... and, how many are there?

Mark Oppat


"Brian Hill" brianehill@charterDOTnet wrote in message
...
Why would someone that obviously knows about radios and collects them make
a bull**** statement like this? Everybody knows the SX-28 was one of the
most mass produced receivers of that era and are still plentiful. It

****es
me off when people that claim to be collector or lover of the radio hobby
exaggerate or lie to make an extra buck on a radio. Yes I'm speaking of a
certain place people auction radios. People like this won't get my buck.
--
73 and good DXing
RX:
R-5000, SP-600 JX-6, SX-28
Ant:
100' longwire, Evesdropper Dipole

Brian's Radio Universe
http://webpages.charter.net/brianehill/





Steven Dinius January 7th 04 08:46 AM

2 receivers, 2 paper manuals and one CD manual.

"Mark Oppat" wrote in message
...
keep in mind about 70% of all ebay sellers are WOMEN! They dont have a

clue
about some things, notably radios, and , are more likely to just say
whatever they feel.... based in fact or not. To them, or any guy who is

not
seriously into radio, that is a RARE radio! And, in fact, you could go to
about 2000 garage sales and not find one...which is their basis for

reality.
so, cut these folks some slack. We are into this stuff DEEP, so to us its
common. Well, not exactly common, anymore, anyway. I go to about 8 swaps

a
year, most antique radio , some ham, and I have not seen one in the last
year or so for sale...so, its not as common as you think. but, like I

said,
consider the sellers are not as "into" this as we are, and yeah, they are
hoping to get the best $ they can, who isnt? Not you? I bet you always

try
to make your items sound good when (or if) you ever sell. We all do, its
natural.
But, I dont lie... and, saying its "rare" is technically a lie, but like

I
said, in their world it is... and, in ours, its becoming true

too....except
if you look at all the other SX-28's on eBay... and, how many are there?

Mark Oppat


"Brian Hill" brianehill@charterDOTnet wrote in message
...
Why would someone that obviously knows about radios and collects them

make
a bull**** statement like this? Everybody knows the SX-28 was one of the
most mass produced receivers of that era and are still plentiful. It

****es
me off when people that claim to be collector or lover of the radio

hobby
exaggerate or lie to make an extra buck on a radio. Yes I'm speaking of

a
certain place people auction radios. People like this won't get my buck.
--
73 and good DXing
RX:
R-5000, SP-600 JX-6, SX-28
Ant:
100' longwire, Evesdropper Dipole

Brian's Radio Universe
http://webpages.charter.net/brianehill/







Tom Morrow January 7th 04 10:23 AM

Why are you posting this when this was the original point made at
the start of the thread? You added nothing, really!

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 17:09:52 -0700, JJ
wrote:

Ebay sellers are greatly known for the abuse of the words "scarce", and
"rare". After all if they use those words it might get another bid or
two, makes no difference that they have done no research or have any
other information to base it on. The idea is to get another buck.

Brian Hill wrote:

Why would someone that obviously knows about radios and collects them make
a bull**** statement like this? Everybody knows the SX-28 was one of the
most mass produced receivers of that era and are still plentiful. It ****es
me off when people that claim to be collector or lover of the radio hobby
exaggerate or lie to make an extra buck on a radio. Yes I'm speaking of a
certain place people auction radios. People like this won't get my buck.



Tom Morrow January 7th 04 10:25 AM

On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 01:46:03 -0700, "Steven Dinius"
wrote:

2 receivers, 2 paper manuals and one CD manual.


If they are so "COMMON" then everyone who wanted one
probably already has several, so they should go for very
cheap then, right?

LOL


Steven Dinius January 7th 04 10:37 AM

Just to **** imaginary people like you off, I suppose.

PS WE had the popular radio DJ Tom COLLINS. Try harder.
"Tom Morrow" wrote in message
...
Why are you posting this when this was the original point made at
the start of the thread? You added nothing, really!

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 17:09:52 -0700, JJ
wrote:

Ebay sellers are greatly known for the abuse of the words "scarce", and
"rare". After all if they use those words it might get another bid or
two, makes no difference that they have done no research or have any
other information to base it on. The idea is to get another buck.

Brian Hill wrote:

Why would someone that obviously knows about radios and collects them

make
a bull**** statement like this? Everybody knows the SX-28 was one of

the
most mass produced receivers of that era and are still plentiful. It

****es
me off when people that claim to be collector or lover of the radio

hobby
exaggerate or lie to make an extra buck on a radio. Yes I'm speaking of

a
certain place people auction radios. People like this won't get my

buck.




RRich52806 January 7th 04 10:39 AM

Just want the ones on e-bay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ategory=46 73

and

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tegory=15 051

Steven Dinius January 7th 04 10:41 AM

They made a bloody CD manual, didn't they? If there were say, 5, just to
throw a number to the lions, would YOU make one?

From boatanchors, eh? Or just crossposting to make a mess?

Next post I'll chop all others out.

"Tom Morrow" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 01:46:03 -0700, "Steven Dinius"
wrote:

2 receivers, 2 paper manuals and one CD manual.


If they are so "COMMON" then everyone who wanted one
probably already has several, so they should go for very
cheap then, right?

LOL




Brenda Ann January 7th 04 11:40 AM


"Steven Dinius" wrote in message
...


PS WE had the popular radio DJ Tom COLLINS.


Kewl.. in Salem, in the late 60's and 1970, we had a country station with a
DJ named Jack Daniels.. "At KAPT we put Jack Daniels in your radio... not
safe, but certainly entertaining." Shortly into 1970, they changed format,
and became a Christian station. They still are, but the call letters changed
shortly after the format...




Steven Dinius January 7th 04 12:21 PM

We also have Ken Bass, as in the song line, "Oh my buddy Ken Bass, he's
a-workin' pumping gas, and he makes $2.54 an hour" ("Gold" by John Stewart,
from the "Bombs Away Dream Babies" LP). Plus we have a traffic reporter with
maybe a dozen names, one for every station he serves. He has a woman named
"Claire Day" working for him. There also was once a hard rock DJ, Dave "your
radio slave" Stone, "Bad" Bob Lee, "Emporer" Larry Lomax, "Jammin'" Jeff
Allen, "Captain" Mike Kasper and an Australian student named "the Wombat"
who left on visa issues (he was pretty damned good and likeable too). All in
Boise radio.

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...

"Steven Dinius" wrote in message
...


PS WE had the popular radio DJ Tom COLLINS.


Kewl.. in Salem, in the late 60's and 1970, we had a country station with

a
DJ named Jack Daniels.. "At KAPT we put Jack Daniels in your radio... not
safe, but certainly entertaining." Shortly into 1970, they changed

format,
and became a Christian station. They still are, but the call letters

changed
shortly after the format...






Brenda Ann January 7th 04 01:01 PM


"Steven Dinius" wrote in message
...
We also have Dave "your
radio slave" Stone,


Dave gets around.. he's also been in Portland (KISN, IIRC) and Spokane,
among who knows how many others..




Uncle Peter January 7th 04 09:39 PM


"Steven Dinius" wrote in message
...
We also have Ken Bass,


Dang Steve, I figured you liked Billy Bass..




Nc183d January 7th 04 11:05 PM

Lets see. The 2nd listed one on ePay has no bottom plate, has a real rust
problem along with corrosion, needs servicing, has at least one extra hole
drilled into it and you can buy it now for only $400.00!!!! Where do I get on
the line of nuts to buy this particular question mark.... I've got a really
nice, all original SX28A that works just fine on all bands, no extra holes, no
rust, no mods, no corrosion AND it comes with the VERY RARE bass reflex speaker
(R-12) speaker. Must be worth at least $1500.00....... How silly is this
getting????

- - Bill - - January 7th 04 11:11 PM

Nc183d wrote:
Lets see. The 2nd listed one on ePay has no bottom plate, has a real rust
problem along with corrosion, needs servicing, has at least one extra hole
drilled into it and you can buy it now for only $400.00!!!! Where do I get on
the line of nuts to buy this particular question mark.... I've got a really
nice, all original SX28A that works just fine on all bands, no extra holes, no
rust, no mods, no corrosion AND it comes with the VERY RARE bass reflex speaker
(R-12) speaker. Must be worth at least $1500.00....... How silly is this
getting????


Well, ya don't often see a BuyItNow price that has any relation to
reality...except for the guy who nabbed a nice, working Zenith TO the
other day for $20 BIN. The listing lasted 6 minutes :-)

-Bill


Brian Hill January 7th 04 11:29 PM


I sold one of my SX-28As for a little over $1500 on Ebay two years ago. My
reserve was anout $550 but the auction kept going. It was nice and some
people can afford it. Wanna guess who won the auction.
--
73 and good DXing
RX:
R-5000, SP-600 JX-6, SX-28
Ant:
100' longwire, Evesdropper Dipole

Brian's Radio Universe
http://webpages.charter.net/brianehill/



Nc183d January 8th 04 02:50 AM

who won? You got me now!!!!

GBrown January 8th 04 04:55 PM

I bought my last WORKING SX-28 at a yard sale. $20.00, included the original
manual. No extra holes, rust, etc. YES, I sleep good at nite.
Gary...WZ1M

"Tom Morrow" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 01:46:03 -0700, "Steven Dinius"
wrote:

2 receivers, 2 paper manuals and one CD manual.


If they are so "COMMON" then everyone who wanted one
probably already has several, so they should go for very
cheap then, right?

LOL




- - Bill - - January 8th 04 05:15 PM

GBrown wrote:
I bought my last WORKING SX-28 at a yard sale. $20.00, included the original
manual. No extra holes, rust, etc. YES, I sleep good at nite.
Gary...WZ1M


You want to double your investment?
-Bill


Robert Casey January 8th 04 05:34 PM

Brian Hill wrote:

Why would someone that obviously knows about radios and collects them make
a bull**** statement like this? Everybody knows the SX-28 was one of the
most mass produced receivers of that era and are still plentiful.

Being "rare" isn't significant to me. A rare radio implies that they
didn't sell too
well, because of bad style, engineering, or just too expensive for what
it did.
I have a web page showing the "common" easily found radios that I own.
http://www.geocities.com/wa2ise/radios/common.html

I like my radios "well done" :-)


Frank Dresser January 9th 04 01:26 AM


"Robert Casey" wrote in message
...

Being "rare" isn't significant to me. A rare radio implies that they
didn't sell too
well, because of bad style, engineering, or just too expensive for

what
it did.
I have a web page showing the "common" easily found radios that I own.
http://www.geocities.com/wa2ise/radios/common.html

I like my radios "well done" :-)


Well, sellers sometimes like to say a mass produced item is rare, not
because it didn't fit a market or wasn't a good deal for the money, but
because "it probably was ahead of it's time:".

Frank Dresser



Steve Deny Us January 10th 04 01:26 AM

On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 03:37:10 -0700, "Steven Dinius"
wrote:

Just to **** imaginary people like you off, I suppose.


"None of you is real - my ISP types all of this in!"

- Steven Dinius


Tom Morrow January 10th 04 01:29 AM

On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 17:29:26 -0600, "Brian Hill"
brianehill@charterDOTnet wrote:

I sold one of my SX-28As for a little over $1500 on Ebay two years ago. My
reserve was anout $550 but the auction kept going. It was nice and some
people can afford it. Wanna guess who won the auction.


A certain WA6 perhaps?


- - Bill - - January 10th 04 02:41 AM

Tom Morrow wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 17:29:26 -0600, "Brian Hill"
brianehill@charterDOTnet wrote:


I sold one of my SX-28As for a little over $1500 on Ebay two years ago. My
reserve was anout $550 but the auction kept going. It was nice and some
people can afford it. Wanna guess who won the auction.



A certain WA6 perhaps?


Might that be a certain WB6A** instead?

-ex


Steven Dinius January 10th 04 06:51 AM

Phunny.

You can't even get my bipolar illness correct. I'm not delusional OR
paranoid like the T.P. monger who thinks he's so PHUNNY.

Your caps didn't reform.

"Steve Deny Us" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 03:37:10 -0700, "Steven Dinius"
wrote:

Just to **** imaginary people like you off, I suppose.


"None of you is real - my ISP types all of this in!"

- Steven Dinius




Uncle Peter January 10th 04 03:37 PM


Cherry SX-28s are scarce. Especially ones with the dial
locks, no rust, no dust, no mods... Them seem to prefer
damp cellars and garages in later life. I have two garage
rats that need full restoration--awaiting my retirement time
in a few years. They also seem to bunch with with SX-42s,
another two locally found items that also liked dark places.
Must be a mating thing?

Pete



Frank Dresser January 10th 04 05:39 PM


" Uncle Peter" wrote in message
news:N_ULb.29439$WQ3.24174@lakeread05...

Cherry SX-28s are scarce. Especially ones with the dial
locks, no rust, no dust, no mods... Them seem to prefer
damp cellars and garages in later life. I have two garage
rats that need full restoration--awaiting my retirement time
in a few years. They also seem to bunch with with SX-42s,
another two locally found items that also liked dark places.
Must be a mating thing?

Pete



It's a stacking thing. What else could you put under one of these
radios?

Frank Dresser



Dan Busetti January 10th 04 09:37 PM

"Frank Dresser" wrote in message ...
"Robert Casey" wrote in message
...

Being "rare" isn't significant to me. A rare radio implies that they
didn't sell too
well, because of bad style, engineering, or just too expensive for

what
it did.
I have a web page showing the "common" easily found radios that I own.
http://www.geocities.com/wa2ise/radios/common.html

I like my radios "well done" :-)


Well, sellers sometimes like to say a mass produced item is rare, not
because it didn't fit a market or wasn't a good deal for the money, but
because "it probably was ahead of it's time:".

Frank Dresser


The obvious reason for claiming anything "rare" is to increase the
selling price. Rare suggests hard to get, not found in every
collection- thereby invoking supply/demand dynamics. Case in point: I
have a Zenith tabletop, model 5G537. It uses chassis 5A02, the same as
console 5G572. According to Zenith records, only 4000 chassis were
built. An unknown number were put in tabletops compared to consoles.
In the big scheme of things for Zenith, this model is rare. Can I
legitimately advertise it as rare? Sure. Compared to other chassis
like 6B03 found in 224,000 portables (like 6G601 variants). Does that
make my 5G537 worth $500? Probably not. But at least I can PROVE
rarity based on facts, not on a hope, guess, limited experience, or
dream.

Mark Oppat January 10th 04 10:06 PM

most folks get rarity and desirability confused.
Rarity is component of desireability, not the other way around! Same with
age, condition, etc.
Mark Oppat


"Dan Busetti" wrote in message
om...
"Frank Dresser" wrote in message

...
"Robert Casey" wrote in message
...

Being "rare" isn't significant to me. A rare radio implies that they
didn't sell too
well, because of bad style, engineering, or just too expensive for

what
it did.
I have a web page showing the "common" easily found radios that I own.
http://www.geocities.com/wa2ise/radios/common.html

I like my radios "well done" :-)


Well, sellers sometimes like to say a mass produced item is rare, not
because it didn't fit a market or wasn't a good deal for the money, but
because "it probably was ahead of it's time:".

Frank Dresser


The obvious reason for claiming anything "rare" is to increase the
selling price. Rare suggests hard to get, not found in every
collection- thereby invoking supply/demand dynamics. Case in point: I
have a Zenith tabletop, model 5G537. It uses chassis 5A02, the same as
console 5G572. According to Zenith records, only 4000 chassis were
built. An unknown number were put in tabletops compared to consoles.
In the big scheme of things for Zenith, this model is rare. Can I
legitimately advertise it as rare? Sure. Compared to other chassis
like 6B03 found in 224,000 portables (like 6G601 variants). Does that
make my 5G537 worth $500? Probably not. But at least I can PROVE
rarity based on facts, not on a hope, guess, limited experience, or
dream.




Frank Dresser January 11th 04 12:31 AM


"Mark Oppat" wrote in message
...
most folks get rarity and desirability confused.
Rarity is component of desireability, not the other way around! Same

with
age, condition, etc.
Mark Oppat



Yeah, rarity and desirability are hardly the same thing. If the
practical people of the past wanted to pay for, or keep, any mass
produced items -- they would not now be rare!!

Of course, collecting isn't practical, it's emotional. I have several
old radios, mostly boatanchors. They all still work as well as they did
about 50 years ago. I'm sure the many people who made these radios
common thought they were a good deal for the money. I'm also sure the
original boxes and packing materials would now be worth more than the
radios they once contained.

Frank Dresser



Scott W. Harvey January 11th 04 12:44 AM

On 10 Jan 2004 13:37:26 -0800, (Dan Busetti) wrote:

The obvious reason for claiming anything "rare" is to increase the
selling price. Rare suggests hard to get, not found in every
collection- thereby invoking supply/demand dynamics. Case in point: I
have a Zenith tabletop, model 5G537. It uses chassis 5A02, the same as
console 5G572. According to Zenith records, only 4000 chassis were
built. An unknown number were put in tabletops compared to consoles.
In the big scheme of things for Zenith, this model is rare. Can I
legitimately advertise it as rare? Sure. Compared to other chassis
like 6B03 found in 224,000 portables (like 6G601 variants). Does that
make my 5G537 worth $500? Probably not. But at least I can PROVE
rarity based on facts, not on a hope, guess, limited experience, or
dream.


Well, let's put it another way: suppose you took a load of junk to a
junkyard for disposal, and while there saw a complete SX-28 at the
junkyard in fair-to-midllin' condition, located directly below a sign
that said ABSOLUTELY NO SCAVENGING ALLOWED, would you pass it by, or
would it magically wind up in your car or truck somehow with a blanket
over it?

Scarce or not, I know what I would do.....some rules were meant to be
broken :-)

The SX-28 may not be rare in actuality, but it is rare in the sense
that not too many radios with its level of performance were built in
that era, and fewer still survive completely intact.

-Scott



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Dave Holford January 11th 04 09:47 PM




My copy of "Short wave receivers - past and present" lists the SX-28 as
COMMON


Dave

-Bill M- January 11th 04 10:28 PM

Dave Holford wrote:


My copy of "Short wave receivers - past and present" lists the SX-28 as
COMMON


Dave


Maybe an understatement.
-Bill


Brian Hill January 12th 04 03:05 AM


"Scott W. Harvey" wrote in message The SX-28 may
not be rare in actuality, but it is rare in the sense
that not too many radios with its level of performance were built in
that era, and fewer still survive completely intact.

-Scott


No that's not true there were a lot of radios as good if not better in
performance than the 28. One for instance is the Hammarlund Super Pros that
were mass produced and served the same purpose and the great HROs. The looks
of the SX-28 is what makes it desirable along with its great audio. That's
what made them popular with Military and FCC monitors was they were less
fatiguing to listen to. Its arguably the best looking boatanchor of all time
too. But its not rare and its the one radio if asked to be found can be.
I've restored several SX-28s and SX-28As and they always seem to find their
way into my shack.



Steven Dinius January 12th 04 03:22 AM

If they're that plentiful send one to my address : )
"Brian Hill" brianehill@charterDOTnet wrote in message
...

"Scott W. Harvey" wrote in message The SX-28 may
not be rare in actuality, but it is rare in the sense
that not too many radios with its level of performance were built in
that era, and fewer still survive completely intact.

-Scott


No that's not true there were a lot of radios as good if not better in
performance than the 28. One for instance is the Hammarlund Super Pros

that
were mass produced and served the same purpose and the great HROs. The

looks
of the SX-28 is what makes it desirable along with its great audio. That's
what made them popular with Military and FCC monitors was they were less
fatiguing to listen to. Its arguably the best looking boatanchor of all

time
too. But its not rare and its the one radio if asked to be found can be.
I've restored several SX-28s and SX-28As and they always seem to find

their
way into my shack.





Steven Dinius January 12th 04 03:25 AM

I mean it. My S-118 Mk II is lonely.

"Steven Dinius" wrote in message
...
If they're that plentiful send one to my address : )
"Brian Hill" brianehill@charterDOTnet wrote in message
...

"Scott W. Harvey" wrote in message The SX-28

may
not be rare in actuality, but it is rare in the sense
that not too many radios with its level of performance were built in
that era, and fewer still survive completely intact.

-Scott


No that's not true there were a lot of radios as good if not better in
performance than the 28. One for instance is the Hammarlund Super Pros

that
were mass produced and served the same purpose and the great HROs. The

looks
of the SX-28 is what makes it desirable along with its great audio.

That's
what made them popular with Military and FCC monitors was they were less
fatiguing to listen to. Its arguably the best looking boatanchor of all

time
too. But its not rare and its the one radio if asked to be found can be.
I've restored several SX-28s and SX-28As and they always seem to find

their
way into my shack.








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