Gregg wrote:

SSB+Carrier is known as vestegial sideband and has an efficiency
somewhere between AM and SSB.

Vestigial sideband is used for the Visual signal in NTSC TV
transmission. The term "Vestigial" comes from the fact that part of the
lower sideband is transmitted to reduce the phase shift caused by the
tuned circuits used to remove most of the lower sideband. In the very
early days of TV they couldn't build accurate filters to remove the full
lower sideband without causing video problems, so a compromise was made
in allowing a small part of the lower sideband to be transmitted.

However, unless that modeswitch is designated VSSB, I'd look to
readjusting your carrier balance control.

Gregg


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Gregg wrote:

SSB+Carrier is known as vestegial sideband and has an efficiency
somewhere between AM and SSB.

Vestigial sideband is used for the Visual signal in NTSC TV
transmission. The term "Vestigial" comes from the fact that part of the
lower sideband is transmitted to reduce the phase shift caused by the
tuned circuits used to remove most of the lower sideband. In the very
early days of TV they couldn't build accurate filters to remove the full
lower sideband without causing video problems, so a compromise was made
in allowing a small part of the lower sideband to be transmitted.

Hi Mike,

Quite true! However there were several SW broadcasters experimenting with
VSSB in order to free up the congested SW bands.

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On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 21:30:52 GMT, Gregg wrote:

Behold, Michael A. Terrell signalled from keyed 4-1000A filament:

Gregg wrote:

SSB+Carrier is known as vestegial sideband and has an efficiency
somewhere between AM and SSB.

Vestigial sideband is used for the Visual signal in NTSC TV
transmission. The term "Vestigial" comes from the fact that part of the
lower sideband is transmitted to reduce the phase shift caused by the
tuned circuits used to remove most of the lower sideband. In the very
early days of TV they couldn't build accurate filters to remove the full
lower sideband without causing video problems, so a compromise was made
in allowing a small part of the lower sideband to be transmitted.

Hi Mike,

Quite true! However there were several SW broadcasters experimenting with
VSSB in order to free up the congested SW bands.


Greg,

I think that all are either AM DSB with carrier or SSB with carrier.
There is no reason that I know of to transmit only part of one side
band for broadcast or communications. Other than in TV of course as
was pointed out.

The SW broadcasters use SSB with carrier in order to squeeze into
tighter frequency assignments.

TV stations eliminate part of one side band for the same reason, to
protect the adjacent channel. But they do not abruptly eliminate the
video signal because of the phase shifts caused in the filtering. This
is where the vestigial side band comes in.

73
Gary K4FMX

Behold, Gary Schafer signalled from keyed 4-1000A filament:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 21:30:52 GMT, Gregg wrote:

Behold, Michael A. Terrell signalled from keyed 4-1000A filament:

Gregg wrote:

SSB+Carrier is known as vestegial sideband and has an efficiency
somewhere between AM and SSB.

Vestigial sideband is used for the Visual signal in NTSC TV
transmission. The term "Vestigial" comes from the fact that part of
the lower sideband is transmitted to reduce the phase shift caused by
the tuned circuits used to remove most of the lower sideband. In the
very early days of TV they couldn't build accurate filters to remove
the full lower sideband without causing video problems, so a
compromise was made in allowing a small part of the lower sideband to
be transmitted.

Hi Mike,

Quite true! However there were several SW broadcasters experimenting
with VSSB in order to free up the congested SW bands.


Greg,

I think that all are either AM DSB with carrier or SSB with carrier.
There is no reason that I know of to transmit only part of one side band
for broadcast or communications. Other than in TV of course as was
pointed out.

The SW broadcasters use SSB with carrier in order to squeeze into
tighter frequency assignments.

TV stations eliminate part of one side band for the same reason, to
protect the adjacent channel. But they do not abruptly eliminate the
video signal because of the phase shifts caused in the filtering. This
is where the vestigial side band comes in.

73
Gary K4FMX

Phase shifts - gotcha!

Thanks :-)

--
Gregg
*It's probably useful, even if it can't be SPICE'd*
http://geek.scorpiorising.ca

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On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 21:30:52 GMT, Gregg wrote:

Behold, Michael A. Terrell signalled from keyed 4-1000A filament:

Gregg wrote:

SSB+Carrier is known as vestegial sideband and has an efficiency
somewhere between AM and SSB.

Vestigial sideband is used for the Visual signal in NTSC TV
transmission. The term "Vestigial" comes from the fact that part of the
lower sideband is transmitted to reduce the phase shift caused by the
tuned circuits used to remove most of the lower sideband. In the very
early days of TV they couldn't build accurate filters to remove the
full
lower sideband without causing video problems, so a compromise was made
in allowing a small part of the lower sideband to be transmitted.

Hi Mike,

Quite true! However there were several SW broadcasters experimenting with
VSSB in order to free up the congested SW bands.


Greg,

I think that all are either AM DSB with carrier or SSB with carrier.
There is no reason that I know of to transmit only part of one side
band for broadcast or communications. Other than in TV of course as
was pointed out.

The SW broadcasters use SSB with carrier in order to squeeze into
tighter frequency assignments.

TV stations eliminate part of one side band for the same reason, to
protect the adjacent channel. But they do not abruptly eliminate the
video signal because of the phase shifts caused in the filtering. This
is where the vestigial side band comes in.

73
Gary K4FMX

If I recall correctly, the SW Broadcasters were going to use SSB with
reduced carrier, around 12 db down from normal level.