On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 11:40:06 UTC, John Miller wrote:

Michael Black wrote:

Just because you haven't seen anything does not make it untrue.

You do know you're talking with a Signal/One designer, right?

Yes but in this case, he's wrong.

I said:

I've seen picture of a Signal/One "receiver" in a book on receivers.
It was a prototype, maybe a mock up and never saw production.

He replied:

Never even a consideration much less a prototype or mockup. Somebody
else
playing games with Photoshop.

W4ZCB

I believe that I saw it in Fred Osterman's "Shortwave Receivers,
Past and Present."

A picture in Osterman's book or some other book does not mean
that one of the several entities that called itself "Signal/One"
actually made that receiver. It does mean that what I wrote was
accurate.

I have seen a picture of a Signal/One "receiver" in a book on
receivers. Exactly what that picture represents is an unknown. It
might have been a prototype (probably not, otherwise 4ZCB would
know about it).

It might have been a mockup done by the advertising folk
(possible, lots happens that not everyone knows about. Also, that
was 30 years ago. Memories fade before photographs.)

It was not what 4ZCB suggests but does not precisely state, that
some web-weenee photoshopped it up. That is exactly what that
picture is not.

So. The mystery remains.

I've been busy but still hope to get my CX7A working this year.

de ah6gi/4

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On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 11:40:06 UTC, John Miller wrote:

Michael Black wrote:

Just because you haven't seen anything does not make it untrue.

You do know you're talking with a Signal/One designer, right?

Yes but in this case, he's wrong.

I said:

I've seen picture of a Signal/One "receiver" in a book on receivers.
It was a prototype, maybe a mock up and never saw production.

He replied:

Never even a consideration much less a prototype or mockup. Somebody
else
playing games with Photoshop.

W4ZCB

I believe that I saw it in Fred Osterman's "Shortwave Receivers,
Past and Present."

A picture in Osterman's book or some other book does not mean
that one of the several entities that called itself "Signal/One"
actually made that receiver. It does mean that what I wrote was
accurate.

I have seen a picture of a Signal/One "receiver" in a book on
receivers. Exactly what that picture represents is an unknown. It
might have been a prototype (probably not, otherwise 4ZCB would
know about it).

It might have been a mockup done by the advertising folk
(possible, lots happens that not everyone knows about. Also, that
was 30 years ago. Memories fade before photographs.)

It was not what 4ZCB suggests but does not precisely state, that
some web-weenee photoshopped it up. That is exactly what that
picture is not.

So. The mystery remains.

I've been busy but still hope to get my CX7A working this year.

de ah6gi/4

In the November 1972 73 magazine on page 148 and 149 is a advert for
Signal/One.

They list a model CR-1500 dual channel receiver and the CR-1200 single VFO
receiver. Also the model CT-1500 transmitter and a model CX-10 transceiver.
There are pictures of these items, but they are probably mock-ups and I woul
d guess they were never produced, or probably never even designed.
Engineering may have not even known of these items, as a design engineer for
almost 40 years, I can believe it.

Other new accessories listed are a deluxe station console and 2-meter and
6-meter transverters with direct digital readout and FM capability. Those
marketing people were sure busy.

Mike T

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On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 11:40:06 UTC, John Miller wrote:

Michael Black wrote:

Just because you haven't seen anything does not make it untrue.

You do know you're talking with a Signal/One designer, right?

Yes but in this case, he's wrong.

I said:

I've seen picture of a Signal/One "receiver" in a book on receivers.
It was a prototype, maybe a mock up and never saw production.

He replied:

Never even a consideration much less a prototype or mockup. Somebody
else
playing games with Photoshop.

W4ZCB

I believe that I saw it in Fred Osterman's "Shortwave Receivers,
Past and Present."

A picture in Osterman's book or some other book does not mean
that one of the several entities that called itself "Signal/One"
actually made that receiver. It does mean that what I wrote was
accurate.

I have seen a picture of a Signal/One "receiver" in a book on
receivers. Exactly what that picture represents is an unknown. It
might have been a prototype (probably not, otherwise 4ZCB would
know about it).

It might have been a mockup done by the advertising folk
(possible, lots happens that not everyone knows about. Also, that
was 30 years ago. Memories fade before photographs.)

It was not what 4ZCB suggests but does not precisely state, that
some web-weenee photoshopped it up. That is exactly what that
picture is not.

So. The mystery remains.

I've been busy but still hope to get my CX7A working this year.

de ah6gi/4

In the November 1972 73 magazine on page 148 and 149 is a advert for
Signal/One.

They list a model CR-1500 dual channel receiver and the CR-1200 single VFO
receiver. Also the model CT-1500 transmitter and a model CX-10 transceiver.
There are pictures of these items, but they are probably mock-ups and I woul
d guess they were never produced, or probably never even designed.
Engineering may have not even known of these items, as a design engineer for
almost 40 years, I can believe it.

Other new accessories listed are a deluxe station console and 2-meter and
6-meter transverters with direct digital readout and FM capability. Those
marketing people were sure busy.

Mike T


Thanks for looking that up, I was hoping someone with their collection in
better order could find it easily. I know I looked but it's not where
I expected it.

I wasn't for a minute arguing that these every went into production,
and I can even agree tht they likely never saw prototypes, but
the ad was not a figment of my imagination.

I was still relatively new to the hobby when that issue arrived
with that ad. The CX-7 had always been around since I started
getting QST in early 1971, and I soon collected enough recent
back issues that the rig was pretty familiar to me, and it did
seem a leap ahead of much of what was available. People forget
(or don't know) that the rig really stood out when it was introduced,
not simply because it was almost completely solid-state at a time
when tubes were still fairly common, but because it introduced some
new techniques at the time. It took about ten years before other
rigs that seemed on the same level became common.

And I precisely remember that ad because all those neat pieces
of equipment were something to drool over. I didn't question
at the time that they weren't going to be produced, though it
meant little to me either way since it was all out of my price
range. It was only when there were no more ads for those
rigs that it because obvious that we weren't going to see them
in production.

Was the Emergency Beacon ad in that issue, or did those rigs
come later? They were 2meter FM rigs that had plenty of bells
and whistles, again at a time when the norm were pretty plain.
I thought some were produced, but there was one ad that showed
a more extensive line, and then shortly after the company disappeared
(or maybe the ad was the last time the company was heard of). For
some reason, I place the ad in that November 1972 issue, but I'n
not as sure of it as with the Signal One ad.

Michael VE2BVW

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On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 11:40:06 UTC, John Miller wrote:

Michael Black wrote:

Just because you haven't seen anything does not make it untrue.

You do know you're talking with a Signal/One designer, right?

Yes but in this case, he's wrong.

I said:

I've seen picture of a Signal/One "receiver" in a book on receivers.
It was a prototype, maybe a mock up and never saw production.

He replied:

Never even a consideration much less a prototype or mockup. Somebody
else
playing games with Photoshop.

W4ZCB

I believe that I saw it in Fred Osterman's "Shortwave Receivers,
Past and Present."

A picture in Osterman's book or some other book does not mean
that one of the several entities that called itself "Signal/One"
actually made that receiver. It does mean that what I wrote was
accurate.

I have seen a picture of a Signal/One "receiver" in a book on
receivers. Exactly what that picture represents is an unknown. It
might have been a prototype (probably not, otherwise 4ZCB would
know about it).

It might have been a mockup done by the advertising folk
(possible, lots happens that not everyone knows about. Also, that
was 30 years ago. Memories fade before photographs.)

It was not what 4ZCB suggests but does not precisely state, that
some web-weenee photoshopped it up. That is exactly what that
picture is not.

So. The mystery remains.

I've been busy but still hope to get my CX7A working this year.

de ah6gi/4

In the November 1972 73 magazine on page 148 and 149 is a advert for
Signal/One.

They list a model CR-1500 dual channel receiver and the CR-1200 single
VFO
receiver. Also the model CT-1500 transmitter and a model CX-10
transceiver.
There are pictures of these items, but they are probably mock-ups and I
woul
d guess they were never produced, or probably never even designed.
Engineering may have not even known of these items, as a design engineer
for
almost 40 years, I can believe it.

Other new accessories listed are a deluxe station console and 2-meter
and
6-meter transverters with direct digital readout and FM capability.
Those
marketing people were sure busy.

Mike T


Thanks for looking that up, I was hoping someone with their collection in
better order could find it easily. I know I looked but it's not where
I expected it.

I wasn't for a minute arguing that these every went into production,
and I can even agree tht they likely never saw prototypes, but
the ad was not a figment of my imagination.

I was still relatively new to the hobby when that issue arrived
with that ad. The CX-7 had always been around since I started
getting QST in early 1971, and I soon collected enough recent
back issues that the rig was pretty familiar to me, and it did
seem a leap ahead of much of what was available. People forget
(or don't know) that the rig really stood out when it was introduced,
not simply because it was almost completely solid-state at a time
when tubes were still fairly common, but because it introduced some
new techniques at the time. It took about ten years before other
rigs that seemed on the same level became common.

And I precisely remember that ad because all those neat pieces
of equipment were something to drool over. I didn't question
at the time that they weren't going to be produced, though it
meant little to me either way since it was all out of my price
range. It was only when there were no more ads for those
rigs that it because obvious that we weren't going to see them
in production.

Was the Emergency Beacon ad in that issue, or did those rigs
come later? They were 2meter FM rigs that had plenty of bells
and whistles, again at a time when the norm were pretty plain.
I thought some were produced, but there was one ad that showed
a more extensive line, and then shortly after the company disappeared
(or maybe the ad was the last time the company was heard of). For
some reason, I place the ad in that November 1972 issue, but I'n
not as sure of it as with the Signal One ad.

Michael VE2BVW


I did not see any listing in the ad index for Emergency Beacon, I did not
look at each page as there are 320 pages in that issue.

I got a CX-7 about 6 months ago, it is a very nice rig, and fits in real
well with all my other boatanchors.

Mike T