"Bill M" wrote

How do you figure that? I've been screwed by many more grinning vendors
at hamfests than from ebay sellers and nobody seems to be screaming
about trying to clean them up.


**** I cannot get over you admitting you have been screwed how many
times????
I thought it was "once bitten,twice shy"
Or are you just too stupid to learn?

Brian Goldsmith.

Brian Goldsmith wrote:
"Bill M" wrote

How do you figure that? I've been screwed by many more grinning vendors
at hamfests than from ebay sellers and nobody seems to be screaming
about trying to clean them up.


**** I cannot get over you admitting you have been screwed how many
times????
I thought it was "once bitten,twice shy"
Or are you just too stupid to learn?

Brian Goldsmith.


Yeah, its a damn pity we can't force hamfest vendors to wear feedback signs!

-Bill

If that were the case, there wouldn't be any hamfests.
Gary...
..
"Bill M" wrote in message
...
Brian Goldsmith wrote:
"Bill M" wrote

How do you figure that? I've been screwed by many more grinning vendors
at hamfests than from ebay sellers and nobody seems to be screaming
about trying to clean them up.


**** I cannot get over you admitting you have been screwed how many
times????
I thought it was "once bitten,twice shy"
Or are you just too stupid to learn?

Brian Goldsmith.


Yeah, its a damn pity we can't force hamfest vendors to wear feedback
signs!

-Bill

GBrown wrote:

If that were the case, there wouldn't be any hamfests.
Gary...

Exactly my point. OP suggested that ebay was somehow responsible for
making people behave and his opposition suggested that sheep are to be
fleeced.
Somewhere in the middle common sense, if not a bucketful of luck, should
prevail if a buyer hopes to have a good success ratio of good vs bad
deals whether its ebay, hamfests, Walmart or used car lots.
Counting on people who sell things to please everybody 100% is naivete.

-BM

Brian Goldsmith wrote:
"Bill M" wrote

How do you figure that? I've been screwed by many more grinning vendors
at hamfests than from ebay sellers and nobody seems to be screaming
about trying to clean them up.


**** I cannot get over you admitting you have been screwed how many
times????
I thought it was "once bitten,twice shy"
Or are you just too stupid to learn?

Learn not to go to hamfests? Might as well learn to be a monk!

I doubt that very many folks would return to buy from a vendor that cheated
them, but there are so many vendors. Some honest, and some not.

Ebay is the same thing, but better, because there is a feedback mechanism,
and with a few small changes to the feedback mechanism, it could be
extraordinary!

But that is where I entered this thread; advocating changing the feeback
mechanism so that *nobody* could see the feedback for a given transaction
until both parties had contributed their feedback, and adding a transaction
counter, so you could detect bad vendors that purposefully tried to game the
system by not giving feedback.

-Chuck Harris


Brian Goldsmith.

Chuck Harris wrote:

But that is where I entered this thread; advocating changing the feeback
mechanism so that *nobody* could see the feedback for a given transaction
until both parties had contributed their feedback, and adding a transaction
counter, so you could detect bad vendors that purposefully tried to game
the
system by not giving feedback.

There's a better way to handle that situation - for "unmatched"
feedbacks - make the one-sided feedback visible after 90 days - then all
can see it - PLUS it's too late for retaliatory feedback...

best regards...
--
randy guttery

A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews
so vital to the United States Silent Service:
http://tendertale.com

Randy or Sherry Guttery wrote:
Chuck Harris wrote:

But that is where I entered this thread; advocating changing the feeback
mechanism so that *nobody* could see the feedback for a given transaction
until both parties had contributed their feedback, and adding a
transaction
counter, so you could detect bad vendors that purposefully tried to
game the
system by not giving feedback.


There's a better way to handle that situation - for "unmatched"
feedbacks - make the one-sided feedback visible after 90 days - then all
can see it - PLUS it's too late for retaliatory feedback...

best regards...

That is better! Now if we could just get ebay to implement the change...

-Chuck

Chuck Harris wrote:

Randy or Sherry Guttery wrote:

Chuck Harris wrote:

But that is where I entered this thread; advocating changing the feeback
mechanism so that *nobody* could see the feedback for a given
transaction
until both parties had contributed their feedback, and adding a
transaction
counter, so you could detect bad vendors that purposefully tried to
game the
system by not giving feedback.



There's a better way to handle that situation - for "unmatched"
feedbacks - make the one-sided feedback visible after 90 days - then
all can see it - PLUS it's too late for retaliatory feedback...

best regards...


That is better! Now if we could just get ebay to implement the change...

-Chuck


I've always found ebay to be very responsive to the demands of its
users. I dont necessarily agree with Randy's solution but there are
people smarter than me making these decisions.
The crapola about it going to hell in a handbag from a clown that has
used ebay two times several years ago is unfounded.
ebay is well obliged to a zillion member user base. Old timey hardware
store methodology is passé.
I don't know how that translates to the credit card of a brother-in-law
of a girlfriend that was used by OP wound up getting
hacked...whatever. You call the 800 number of the card and thats the
end of that. Its 2004.
As much as one should recognize the threats of online purchasing one
should also understand/learn the remedies if a deal goes bad.

-BM

Bill M wrote:

end of that. Its 2004.


I know you've been busy, but its 2005! ;-)

--
Former professional electron wrangler.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Bill M wrote:

end of that. Its 2004.



I know you've been busy, but its 2005! ;-)

Ya got me there, Michael A.

-Bill