Clegg Question
 

Ron in Radio Heaven wrote:
Please post it to alt.binaries.pictures.radio, and place a link here.


YES, please do post it to the binaries NG, I would like to see it too.
I have a Clegg 22er FM, I've had several so called experts tell
me that there's no such thing, then I pull out a photo of it.
I also have a manual for it too.

73, Ron




Ron,

Did the 22'er FM have an FM receiver, or was it only an FM transmitter
with an AM (slope detection) receiver?

William

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Clegg Question
 

Carter, K8VT wrote:
Ron in Radio Heaven wrote:

Please post it to alt.binaries.pictures.radio, and place a link here.


YES, please do post it to the binaries NG, I would like to see it too.
I have a Clegg 22er FM, I've had several so called experts tell
me that there's no such thing, then I pull out a photo of it.
I also have a manual for it too.

73, Ron


OK...It looks like I have posted three JPGs (~35-50 kB each) to
alt.binaries.pictures.radio, called Clegg-1, -2 and -3. First attempt at
that...hope I did it right.
[snip]

Clegg-1 and -3 made it through, but Clegg-2 is blank. Please repost.

William

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Clegg Question
 

William Warren wrote:

Clegg-1 and -3 made it through, but Clegg-2 is blank. Please repost.

I checked after I posted last night and again this morning (3/12), and
all three were there both times, so not sure what a re-post would do.
Maybe try again??? (Clegg-2 is of the back of the radio).

Clegg Question
 

"William Warren" wrote in message
...
Ron in Radio Heaven wrote:
Please post it to alt.binaries.pictures.radio, and place a link here.


YES, please do post it to the binaries NG, I would like to see it too.
I have a Clegg 22er FM, I've had several so called experts tell
me that there's no such thing, then I pull out a photo of it.
I also have a manual for it too.

73, Ron




Ron,

Did the 22'er FM have an FM receiver, or was it only an FM transmitter
with an AM (slope detection) receiver?

William

The squelch control makes me think it had limiters and FM.

Pete



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Clegg Question
 

On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 11:42:53 GMT, "Carter, K8VT"
wrote:

Dale Parfitt wrote:
"Carter, K8VT" wrote in message
. com...
William Warren wrote:
Carter, K8VT wrote:
I recently ran across a Clegg 22er am/fm. A web search turned up the
original Clegg 22er (AM only), the 22er II (?) --presumably also AM only
and a Clegg 22 FM. None of these seem to do both AM and FM.

However, the one I have is marked "am/fm" and the front panel controls
seem to indicate it is capable of either.

Is this somewhat scarce? Maybe a prototype? Any Clegg collectors out
there that might be interested (or are they-the collectors, that is-
pretty scarce?)

73,
Carter K8VT
Carter,

Towards the end of AM era, many VHF transceivers were converted to
_transmit_ FM using varacter diodes. It worked surprisingly well, but
required "slope detection" of the received signals, i.e., using an AM
receiver to tune the FM signal onto the skirts of the IF filters, thus
converting FM directly to AM.

If your unit is a prototype, the receiver will probably have both product
and ratio detectors, i.e., it will be a "true" FM receiver. If there's no
FM receiver, I'd guess it's a homebrew conversion.

FWIW.

William

William,
Thanks for the thoughts...

BTW, one thing I should have mentioned is that the factory silk screening
right on the front panel says "Clegg
22'er AM/FM" so it seems unlikely that it is homebrew... and a web search
has, so far, not turned up anything with that name/labeling.

I thought I knew Clegg/ Squires Sanders fairly well- but that is a new one
to me. Never have seen it even mentioned.
Do you have a manual?
Dale W4OP


No, I'm sorry to say that I do not have the manual...and that is what
prompted this whole quest. When I went to do web research to find a
manual, nothing showed up. That's why I almost suspected a prototype or
possibly Clegg's last gasp--a rig that just barely got to market before
they went under???

Carter K8VT

Hi Carter,

As other posters have mentioned, a lot of the 22'ers went thru various
homebrew conversion schemes to FM. Many were done rather
professionally so it might be hard to tell if yours is factory
original.

Clegg had quite a few models after the 22 series.

If my memory is right, Squire-Sanders bought Clegg but then the whole
operation was sold to some outfit called "ISG (International Signal
Group?) and the Squires-Sanders name was discontinued.
I think Ed Clegg regained control of the ham product line from ISG and
then later came out with the FM-27B, the first "all channel" FM
transceiver.

The FM-27B wasn't really synthesized but used a crystal mixing scheme.
It was known for its terrible intermod performance and spur generation
both on transmit and receive. I owned an FM-27B. The local joke about
them was that you could key up about 6 repeaters at the same time.

Clegg later broughtout his very fine FM-DX 2 meter FM rig but they
were high priced arorund $650 for a synthesized single band rig. I
don't think many were sold but a friend of mine bought one.

Clegg ended its company days by selling repackaged and relabeled
Midland VHF rigs such as the FM-28 and acting as a dealer for other
equipment.

I'm not sure but I think I read Ed Clegg's obituary in QST about 10
years ago.

73,

Doug/WA1TUT

Clegg Question
 

Doug wrote:
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 11:42:53 GMT, "Carter, K8VT"
wrote:

Dale Parfitt wrote:
"Carter, K8VT" wrote in message
. com...
William Warren wrote:
Carter, K8VT wrote:
I recently ran across a Clegg 22er am/fm. A web search turned up the
original Clegg 22er (AM only), the 22er II (?) --presumably also AM only
and a Clegg 22 FM. None of these seem to do both AM and FM.

However, the one I have is marked "am/fm" and the front panel controls
seem to indicate it is capable of either.

Is this somewhat scarce? Maybe a prototype? Any Clegg collectors out
there that might be interested (or are they-the collectors, that is-
pretty scarce?)

73,
Carter K8VT
Carter,

Towards the end of AM era, many VHF transceivers were converted to
_transmit_ FM using varacter diodes. It worked surprisingly well, but
required "slope detection" of the received signals, i.e., using an AM
receiver to tune the FM signal onto the skirts of the IF filters, thus
converting FM directly to AM.

If your unit is a prototype, the receiver will probably have both product
and ratio detectors, i.e., it will be a "true" FM receiver. If there's no
FM receiver, I'd guess it's a homebrew conversion.

FWIW.

William

William,
Thanks for the thoughts...

BTW, one thing I should have mentioned is that the factory silk screening
right on the front panel says "Clegg
22'er AM/FM" so it seems unlikely that it is homebrew... and a web search
has, so far, not turned up anything with that name/labeling.
I thought I knew Clegg/ Squires Sanders fairly well- but that is a new one
to me. Never have seen it even mentioned.
Do you have a manual?
Dale W4OP


No, I'm sorry to say that I do not have the manual...and that is what
prompted this whole quest. When I went to do web research to find a
manual, nothing showed up. That's why I almost suspected a prototype or
possibly Clegg's last gasp--a rig that just barely got to market before
they went under???

Carter K8VT

Hi Carter,

As other posters have mentioned, a lot of the 22'ers went thru various
homebrew conversion schemes to FM. Many were done rather
professionally so it might be hard to tell if yours is factory
original.

Clegg had quite a few models after the 22 series.

If my memory is right, Squire-Sanders bought Clegg but then the whole
operation was sold to some outfit called "ISG (International Signal
Group?) and the Squires-Sanders name was discontinued.
I think Ed Clegg regained control of the ham product line from ISG and
then later came out with the FM-27B, the first "all channel" FM
transceiver.

The FM-27B wasn't really synthesized but used a crystal mixing scheme.
It was known for its terrible intermod performance and spur generation
both on transmit and receive. I owned an FM-27B. The local joke about
them was that you could key up about 6 repeaters at the same time.

Clegg later broughtout his very fine FM-DX 2 meter FM rig but they
were high priced arorund $650 for a synthesized single band rig. I
don't think many were sold but a friend of mine bought one.

Clegg ended its company days by selling repackaged and relabeled
Midland VHF rigs such as the FM-28 and acting as a dealer for other
equipment.

I'm not sure but I think I read Ed Clegg's obituary in QST about 10
years ago.

73,

Doug/WA1TUT

Doug,

Thanks for the interesting info!

Some of the things I thought were mods (and that I unfortunately did not
get in the picture) led me to believe they were mods until I looked more
closely. For example, there were 2 female RCA jacks on the side of the
radio, one on the bottom half of the case and one on the top half,
connected by a 1 " long RCA jumper, for the speaker in the top half of
the case. When I looked closely, I could see that the holes and slots in
the case halves were die punched, not drilled or filed, and that the
edges of the holes and slots were painted, indicating to me it was done
in the factory (but as you point out, could have been done by a real
"pro" at home).

I did a search and found an Ed Clegg, about 80 years old and with a W2
Tech call living in Florida and was going to drop him a note. However,
if you saw the obit, I'll save the stamp! :-)

BTW, thanks to all who responded! As I just came across this
incidentally in my travels and am not a Clegg collector, it looks like I
may have to give the e-place a try to see if I can find it a new home.

Thanks again to one and all!

73,

Carter K8VT