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Old April 25th 06, 04:07 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors
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Hello, I'm restoring a Hallicrafters S-20R. I've managed to bring it
back from the grave by installing new caps, a few new resistors and
replacing a bad tube. Although its back to life, it still has some
issues, one I hope someone here can help with. When I touch the cap of
the 6K8 tube with my finger, the audio becomes much louder. Or the
sensitivity increases. Not sure which. But my question is why? What
should I look for in order to have the radio play at the volume without
holding my finger there. It gets very boring. Any help would be
appreciated.

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Old April 25th 06, 04:55 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors
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Rod wrote:
Hello, I'm restoring a Hallicrafters S-20R. I've managed to bring it
back from the grave by installing new caps, a few new resistors and
replacing a bad tube. Although its back to life, it still has some
issues, one I hope someone here can help with. When I touch the cap of
the 6K8 tube with my finger, the audio becomes much louder. Or the
sensitivity increases. Not sure which. But my question is why? What
should I look for in order to have the radio play at the volume without
holding my finger there. It gets very boring. Any help would be
appreciated.


Alignment...or if this is happening only on BCB it may be a combination
of alignment and inferior antenna.

GL,
Bill
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Old April 25th 06, 04:59 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors
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- exray - wrote:


Alignment...or if this is happening only on BCB it may be a combination
of alignment and inferior antenna.

GL,
Bill


I guess I should have also mentioned the possibility of bad rf coils
since thats not all that uncommon. You'll find out during alignment if
there's any bad ones.

GL
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Old April 25th 06, 05:42 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors
 
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Many of these old receivers have been zapped by a lightning charge from
a nearby strike...It`s not at all uncommom to find an open RF coil in
the front end of the receiver..Usually this occurs on the band that the
rec is set on.Like BC band...If all bands show this condition it could
be a switch problem,or something else in RF section...GL W4PQW

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Old April 25th 06, 07:39 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors
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You're adding a capacitor between ground and part of the tube when you
put your finger there. If the front end were tuned properly, this would
be detuning it. But it seems like it's improving the tuning, which makes
me think the tuning is way out. Look for open coils (easy to check with
a continuity tester), and bad ceramic capacitors in that stage.
--scott

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Old April 26th 06, 03:22 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors
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You have a missing slug in one or more of the RF coils.

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You're adding a capacitor between ground and part of the tube when you
put your finger there. If the front end were tuned properly, this would
be detuning it. But it seems like it's improving the tuning, which makes
me think the tuning is way out. Look for open coils (easy to check with
a continuity tester), and bad ceramic capacitors in that stage.
--scott

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"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."



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Old April 26th 06, 02:59 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors
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In article , gkb wrote:
You have a missing slug in one or more of the RF coils.


Oh, that's a good one. Yeah, I've seen that before too. Definitely worth
checking.
--scott
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Old April 26th 06, 06:08 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors
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Yeah I don't get the missing slug. There are no slugs. So I guess
they're all missing.

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On Tue, 25 Apr 2006, Rod wrote:

Hello, I'm restoring a Hallicrafters S-20R. I've managed to bring it
back from the grave by installing new caps, a few new resistors and
replacing a bad tube. Although its back to life, it still has some
issues, one I hope someone here can help with. When I touch the cap of
the 6K8 tube with my finger, the audio becomes much louder. Or the
sensitivity increases.


I don't recognize what the 6K8 is. Audio first stage (diode-triode)? or
Mixer? A fair number of some of these tubes have, as the cap, the
connection to the control grid. If its an audio tube, then you should be
introducing more 60 cycle hum than anything else. When you say "the audio
becomes much louder" are you talking about the audio on the signal you are
listening to or background static or hum or what. I'm not at all familiar
with Hallicrafters before about S-38, S-40 vintage. Give us all some more
clues, and tube listing. I've read all the other responses up to the
moment of writing this posting; most are worth checking out.

If the cap is the control grid of the mixer, then just maybe you are
injecting--by capacitance pickup with your body (as antenna)--more
broadcast RF into the circuit than is coming in normally through whatever
else the input RF goes into (RF amplifier, coils, caps, whatever). In my
experience, lots of times you can touch the antenna terminal of a receiver
and pick up a lot of signal that would not be there if that terminal were
not connected to anything.

Not sure which. But my question is why? What
should I look for in order to have the radio play at the volume without
holding my finger there. It gets very boring. Any help would be
appreciated.


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Old April 26th 06, 09:07 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors
Rod
 
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The 6K8 is the converter oscillator. When I put my finger on the top
to the tube, which has a cap that runs to the tuning mechanism, the
received signal becomes louder. It seems to happen on all bands. The
lower ends of each band are affected the most. I do have about a ten
foot wire connected to the antenna terminal. I also have another S-20R
which functions normally with respect to the received signal.
I hope this is the info you're asking for. Your help very much
appreciated.


Straydog wrote:
On Tue, 25 Apr 2006, Rod wrote:

Hello, I'm restoring a Hallicrafters S-20R. I've managed to bring it
back from the grave by installing new caps, a few new resistors and
replacing a bad tube. Although its back to life, it still has some
issues, one I hope someone here can help with. When I touch the cap of
the 6K8 tube with my finger, the audio becomes much louder. Or the
sensitivity increases.


I don't recognize what the 6K8 is. Audio first stage (diode-triode)? or
Mixer? A fair number of some of these tubes have, as the cap, the
connection to the control grid. If its an audio tube, then you should be
introducing more 60 cycle hum than anything else. When you say "the audio
becomes much louder" are you talking about the audio on the signal you are
listening to or background static or hum or what. I'm not at all familiar
with Hallicrafters before about S-38, S-40 vintage. Give us all some more
clues, and tube listing. I've read all the other responses up to the
moment of writing this posting; most are worth checking out.

If the cap is the control grid of the mixer, then just maybe you are
injecting--by capacitance pickup with your body (as antenna)--more
broadcast RF into the circuit than is coming in normally through whatever
else the input RF goes into (RF amplifier, coils, caps, whatever). In my
experience, lots of times you can touch the antenna terminal of a receiver
and pick up a lot of signal that would not be there if that terminal were
not connected to anything.

Not sure which. But my question is why? What
should I look for in order to have the radio play at the volume without
holding my finger there. It gets very boring. Any help would be
appreciated.



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