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I've recently upgraded my car stereo and the new unit can decode RDS
signals. I know the service never took off in the US but I was surprised in my travels to find that my home area has more RDS stations than pretty much anywhere else. West of Birmingham, AL I've got 5 different stations providing a signal. So far the only place with more that I've found is Atlanta, with 6 or 7, depending on the area. Are there any markets with 7 or more stations with RDS? Are there any small communities with 100% RDS coverage? ~Zach radio junkie |
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More than 10 RDS stations up here 60 miles north of New York City.
-- Remove "zz" from e-mail address to direct reply. "Zach" wrote in message ... I've recently upgraded my car stereo and the new unit can decode RDS signals. I know the service never took off in the US but I was surprised in my travels to find that my home area has more RDS stations than pretty much anywhere else. West of Birmingham, AL I've got 5 different stations providing a signal. So far the only place with more that I've found is Atlanta, with 6 or 7, depending on the area. Are there any markets with 7 or more stations with RDS? Are there any small communities with 100% RDS coverage? ~Zach radio junkie |
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Zach wrote: Are there any markets with 7 or more stations with RDS? Are there any small communities with 100% RDS coverage? In a quick band scan today in Boston MA I counted 16 - WGBH, WPRO (Providence RI), WBOS, WQSX, WTKK, WBMX, WKKB, WKLB, WFNX (101.3), WFNX (101.7), WODS, WBCN, WROR, WMJX, WAAF (hmm, I missed one). Many of these went RDS in last year or so. I looks like Infinity really jumped on the bandwagon (in this market anyway). It is a pleasant surprise as I've had an RDS Ford radio for a while. Now if we could only get a few AM stations to re-activate their C-Quam Stereo (WBZ, WSNR, WCRN - we know you have the equipment). We are down to three AM Stereo Stations: WILD, WJIB and 1360 (don't know the calls - this one converted to stereo in the last year). My Ford Radio can do C-Quam AM Stereo as well (not IBOC though). |
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![]() wrote: Now if we could only get a few AM stations to re-activate their C-Quam Stereo (WBZ, WSNR, WCRN - we know you have the equipment). We are down to three AM Stereo Stations: WILD, WJIB and 1360 (don't know the calls - this one converted to stereo in the last year). My Ford Radio can do C-Quam AM Stereo as well (not IBOC though). Not to launch another AM Stereo flame war but... I've noticed that WPGC (1580 AM) runs with C-Quam during their daytime 50Kw authorization, but then drops the C-Quam when they lower power (to 270 watts!) and change their pattern at night. I live within 10 miles of their plant (but still inside the pattern), so I'm not entire certain that they actually turn off the C-Quam or if the signal is merely so poor that C-quam just isn't possible. What would be the advantages of disabling C-Quam during protected hours? Thanks, Jeremy Powell |
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"TritonVA" wrote in message
... (...snip...) Not to launch another AM Stereo flame war but... I've noticed that WPGC (1580 AM) runs with C-Quam during their daytime 50Kw authorization, but then drops the C-Quam when they lower power (to 270 watts!) and change their pattern at night. I live within 10 miles of their plant (but still inside the pattern), so I'm not entire certain that they actually turn off the C-Quam or if the signal is merely so poor that C-quam just isn't possible. What would be the advantages of disabling C-Quam during protected hours? Just a guess, but they may use 2 different transmitters...one for days, and one for nights, given the large discrepancy between operating power levels. Heck, the control circuits of the high-power 50 kW xmtr probably use more than 270 watts of AC power just running in standby !! In any case, it may be as simple as the low-power transmitter not being equipped with a C-QUAM exciter (or it not being in working condition) ..... and judged not to be worth the $$ it would take to repair/replace/install in the first place. |
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![]() M.B. wrote: Just a guess, but they may use 2 different transmitters...one for days, and one for nights, given the large discrepancy between operating power levels. Heck, the control circuits of the high-power 50 kW xmtr probably use more than 270 watts of AC power just running in standby !! In any case, it may be as simple as the low-power transmitter not being equipped with a C-QUAM exciter (or it not being in working condition) ..... and judged not to be worth the $$ it would take to repair/replace/install in the first place. Doh! This had never occurred to me for some reason. At 270 watts, in a city as RF noisy as Washington D.C., I can't imagine that they'd have a huge listenship at night in the first place - so the financials probably don't make sense to maintain the C-Quam at night. Which begs the question: why don't these stations just throw in the towel for the after sunset crowd? Are they really generating enough revenue with their non-existant nighttime numbers to justify the AC for the xtmr? I can't count a half dozen stations in the D.C./Baltimore markets that *barely* cover their C.O. at night. And turning down all those pip-squeak stations at night *just* might lower the noise floor for everybody else... How do AM stations with sunset flea power price their overnight inventory? Surely the sales team doesn't price these spots the same as a daypart spot, right? - Jeremy Powell |
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In article , TritonVA wrote:
Doh! This had never occurred to me for some reason. At 270 watts, in a city as RF noisy as Washington D.C., I can't imagine that they'd have a huge listenship at night in the first place - so the financials probably don't make sense to maintain the C-Quam at night. A 5 watt nighttime station on AM 74 in Cambridge, Mass. does cover Boston and Cambridge quite well.. Why is Washington DC so RF noisy? markets that *barely* cover their C.O. at night. And turning down all those pip-squeak stations at night *just* might lower the noise floor for everybody else... Correct. It might. However these stations are under the impression that they have listeners even during the daytime - period. -- Sven Weil New York City, U.S.A. |
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TritonVA wrote: M.B. wrote: Just a guess, but they may use 2 different transmitters...one for days, and one for nights, given the large discrepancy between operating power levels. Heck, the control circuits of the high-power 50 kW xmtr probably use more than 270 watts of AC power just running in standby !! In any case, it may be as simple as the low-power transmitter not being equipped with a C-QUAM exciter (or it not being in working condition) ..... and judged not to be worth the $$ it would take to repair/replace/install in the first place. Doh! This had never occurred to me for some reason. At 270 watts, in a city as RF noisy as Washington D.C., I can't imagine that they'd have a huge listenship at night in the first place - so the financials probably don't make sense to maintain the C-Quam at night. Which begs the question: why don't these stations just throw in the towel for the after sunset crowd? Are they really generating enough revenue with their non-existant nighttime numbers to justify the AC for the xtmr? I can't count a half dozen stations in the D.C./Baltimore markets that *barely* cover their C.O. at night. And turning down all those pip-squeak stations at night *just* might lower the noise floor for everybody else... How do AM stations with sunset flea power price their overnight inventory? Surely the sales team doesn't price these spots the same as a daypart spot, right? - Jeremy Powell WHVO in Hopkinsville KY drops to 24 watts and has a decent signal which covers about 6 - 8 square miles. George K3UD |
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