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4CX5000A or simular
My name is Onno de Vries and i'm living in the Netherland and building
big amps is my hobby. I just bought a 4CX 5000A on a radio market here for a good price (180 Euro) including socket. Becourse the price was so good i took the challenge to build a 88-108 Mhz final from it. I allready build many with all diferent kind of tube's but after some experimenting with this tube i found out that the anode resonator a a bit of a problem course of the high cappacity of the tube. I try to do it with a double output coil (together Almost a half wave) wich you see in manny designs for 144 Mhz amateur amps using for example the russian tube GU84. This works but it has a terrible efficiency,about 30%. I hope that someone have experiance with big transmitters with 4CX5000A or simular in the final wich has about the same anode cappacity and inpedance. I hope that somebody can give me some Info about making a good and high efficiend tank with these kind of tubes. |
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umarc wrote in message ...
(Onno de Vries.) writes: I hope that someone have experiance with big transmitters with 4CX5000A or simular in the final wich has about the same anode cappacity and inpedance. I hope that somebody can give me some Info about making a good and high efficiend tank with these kind of tubes. The Collins 830F transmitter used this tube -- there's one still in service as a backup here in the Boston area -- and the tube socket sits on the deck of a 1/4-wave-length cavity that can be tuned roughly by raising and lowering a sliding plate that forms the "ceiling" of the cavity. Fine-tuning is accomplished by moving a vertical plate inside the cavity connected to the cavity wall; it acts as a shunt capacitor. Another capacitor in series with the output RF sample loop acts as a loading control. The Harris FM-25K power amplifier is similar but is built around a larger tube (8990/4CX20,000A). umar Hallo Umar. Thank's for responding. Atleast i have some transmitter type's wich uses the 4CX type of tube's. I did some searching on the net and found the Collins and the Harris transmitters but no photo's, manuals or schematics wich i realy need to bild this thing. When i read Your story i understand a bit how they do it.....but a bit is not enough. Umar......thank's again for helping,if You know where i can find some more info please let me know. Regards. Onno. |
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Onno,
http://www.qsl.net/g4ftc/amplifiers/8171/home.htm http://tinyurl.com/yq6a9 http://www.angelfire.com/darkside/rfbox/ http://www.somis.org/ and when you wish to plug it into the mobile: http://www.extremecb.com/Engine_3.jpg Enjoy -- Philip de Cadenet G4ZOW Transmitters 'R' Us http://www.transmittersrus.com |
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Philip de Cadenet wrote in message ...
Onno, http://www.qsl.net/g4ftc/amplifiers/8171/home.htm http://tinyurl.com/yq6a9 http://www.angelfire.com/darkside/rfbox/ http://www.somis.org/ and when you wish to plug it into the mobile: http://www.extremecb.com/Engine_3.jpg Enjoy Well i just wright a big reply........use the backspace button and my mail was gone. Great.... O.k . Just start over all again. GRRRRRR. Hallo Philip....first i have to excuse myself for not replyíng Your mail. Sombody was and is still so friedly to sent me mail with a virus. I had to install(ghost)my pc again and thatswy i lost mail and adresses. I just take a look at the site's You put on this page. Some i allready saw bur the www.somis.org/ is verry interesting. I copy'd much and printed it out. They other site's has more to do with six meter transmitting. But....Umar was talking about a Harris FM-25K. Well on the Harris page(after much digging)i found much. I found two different kind of schematics and a drawing of a cavity. Verry good.....i'm happy..... The onely thing i have to do now is measure the socket or tube on the drawing , compare it to the real size and than i can calculate the size of the cavity. THAN BILD THE THING. If it's finish'd the AMP i will let You know all. Philip and Umar.......thanks for helping me out. Greetings from Elburg....the Netherlands. Onno. P.S. This engine dynamo thing.........is it normal to build those things?....Crazy?.......awsome. |
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http://www.extremecb.com/Engine_3.jpg P.S. This engine dynamo thing.........is it normal to build those things?....Crazy?.......awsome. It all happens in the USA! I flew over to some of these mobile amplifier "shootouts" and took a bunch of pictures. That van owner above lives in Florida. He has another rack of high output alternators on the main engine in the front. He has full throttle control of both engines in the front. I'm afraid your tube amp would not get much of a lookin as the champion that day ran a pair of 4CX20,000's in the output of his amp:-) By the way, one of your radio ships just came to the UK for a refit: http://www.mvcommunicator.com/39400.html Take care and good luck with your project. -- Philip de Cadenet G4ZOW Transmitters 'R' Us http://www.transmittersrus.com |
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