Playing actualities from someone else's copyrighted show is not a good
idea legally. You can discuss what was said, quote it in context even,
but I certainly wouldn't be playing a tape of it. On one hand, the chance
of someone other than your close circle of friends ever hearing an
Internet talk show is slim, so the chance of some representative of the
show you want to use hearing it are equally slim. But slim is not none,
and weasels and lawyers are constantly looking for someone to sue so they
can continue to get their BMW's detailed weekly.

BTW, the best commentary comes from passionate personal beliefs, not
critisim of what someone else said or did elsewhere. That's just
critisism and that's pretty boring to listen to.

Actually, I meant more along the lines of news. Is it even illegal to
replay short clips? Probably so, just making sure.

On 12 Jun 2004 05:34:43 GMT, OIE wrote:

Playing actualities from someone else's copyrighted show is not a good
idea legally. You can discuss what was said, quote it in context even,
but I certainly wouldn't be playing a tape of it. On one hand, the chance
of someone other than your close circle of friends ever hearing an
Internet talk show is slim, so the chance of some representative of the
show you want to use hearing it are equally slim. But slim is not none,
and weasels and lawyers are constantly looking for someone to sue so they
can continue to get their BMW's detailed weekly.

BTW, the best commentary comes from passionate personal beliefs, not
critisim of what someone else said or did elsewhere. That's just
critisism and that's pretty boring to listen to.

Actually, I meant more along the lines of news. Is it even illegal to
replay short clips? Probably so, just making sure.

Yup. Unless you get permission first. (And pay for the actuality.. probably
only a few hundred per...)

Actually, I meant more along the lines of news. Is it even illegal to
replay short clips? Probably so, just making sure.

Radio stations pay networks with commercial inventory to use those
actualities.Lots of inventory. I don't believe you'll find there's any
"fair use" application in a one minute news clip that's been edited by
the network and paid for by the stations.

Under no circumstances, short of getting permission, can you use the
voice of any network personality unless you want to pay them a hefty
fee. You're in very dangerous water.

Rich

On 13 Jun 2004 17:40:03 GMT, Rich Wood
wrote:

Actually, I meant more along the lines of news. Is it even illegal to
replay short clips? Probably so, just making sure.

Radio stations pay networks with commercial inventory to use those
actualities.Lots of inventory. I don't believe you'll find there's any
"fair use" application in a one minute news clip that's been edited by
the network and paid for by the stations.

Under no circumstances, short of getting permission, can you use the
voice of any network personality unless you want to pay them a hefty
fee. You're in very dangerous water.

Rich

Just thought of something else. What about rebroadcasting
politicians? I know you can use the words of politicians freely, but
do you have to record their words yourself?

I forgot to respond that anything "published" in any medium is automatically
copyrighted by the author, unless otherwise noted.

Often those who post articles on Web sites will okay their use in full, as long
as the authors and the sources are given full credit when and where they are
used.

Bill in SE Texas

"OIE" wrote in message ...
On 13 Jun 2004 17:40:03 GMT, Rich Wood
wrote:

Actually, I meant more along the lines of news. Is it even illegal to
replay short clips? Probably so, just making sure.

Radio stations pay networks with commercial inventory to use those
actualities.Lots of inventory. I don't believe you'll find there's any
"fair use" application in a one minute news clip that's been edited by
the network and paid for by the stations.

Under no circumstances, short of getting permission, can you use the
voice of any network personality unless you want to pay them a hefty
fee. You're in very dangerous water.

Rich

Just thought of something else. What about rebroadcasting
politicians? I know you can use the words of politicians freely, but
do you have to record their words yourself?


Drop that thought.

No, you don't have to literally record the words yourself. You can have
somebody do that for you, but as has been made pretty clear here already,
you cannot record the "words" from someone else's radio station and then
play them on yours. Sure, the politician was no doubt speaking in a public
forum, but the radio station from which _you_ got the audio was the party
that some way, some how and for sure paid for that audio. And that station
owns that particular rendering of that audio. They paid for it. They sent
a reporter to the scene to record it. Or they paid a network in spot
inventory to get it. You didn't. There isn't such a thing as free audio
for use on the air (unless, of course, you negotiate a price of $0.00 with
the party that owns it. You can't just take it from the owner (well, you
_can_ but you shouldn't). I think your search for free stuff is going to be
futile.

Don

On 17 Jun 2004 03:08:07 GMT, "Don Forsling" wrote:



"OIE" wrote in message ...
On 13 Jun 2004 17:40:03 GMT, Rich Wood
wrote:

Actually, I meant more along the lines of news. Is it even illegal to
replay short clips? Probably so, just making sure.

Radio stations pay networks with commercial inventory to use those
actualities.Lots of inventory. I don't believe you'll find there's any
"fair use" application in a one minute news clip that's been edited by
the network and paid for by the stations.

Under no circumstances, short of getting permission, can you use the
voice of any network personality unless you want to pay them a hefty
fee. You're in very dangerous water.

Rich

Just thought of something else. What about rebroadcasting
politicians? I know you can use the words of politicians freely, but
do you have to record their words yourself?


Drop that thought.

No, you don't have to literally record the words yourself. You can have
somebody do that for you, but as has been made pretty clear here already,
you cannot record the "words" from someone else's radio station and then
play them on yours. Sure, the politician was no doubt speaking in a public
forum, but the radio station from which _you_ got the audio was the party
that some way, some how and for sure paid for that audio. And that station
owns that particular rendering of that audio. They paid for it. They sent
a reporter to the scene to record it. Or they paid a network in spot
inventory to get it. You didn't. There isn't such a thing as free audio
for use on the air (unless, of course, you negotiate a price of $0.00 with
the party that owns it. You can't just take it from the owner (well, you
_can_ but you shouldn't). I think your search for free stuff is going to be
futile.

Don

Could you rephrase that, I think it was a little vague. Just kidding!
Thanks for the answers; I just wanted to get some answers. As I said,
the only thing I could find was fair use in the university classroom.
Thanks for the help.

On 15 Jun 2004 21:49:51 GMT, OIE wrote:

Just thought of something else. What about rebroadcasting
politicians? I know you can use the words of politicians freely, but
do you have to record their words yourself?

More difficult to answer since many political things are done through
a pool. CNN, for instance, is the Republican Convention originator.

The practical issue is whether or not the feed can be traced to its
source and that source objects to it being used by anyone other than
those licensed to do so.

Where will you get your feed? From a radio station? They also have a
say in how their material can be used.

Whenever you use material you're not licensed to use you risk heavy
duty litigation.

Rich