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Dear Mr. Robeson,


Thank-you for your e-mail of 01 August 2006


In reference to your inquiry, no such unit "HMC 47 CSB
(PROVISIONAL)" has ever been located at Ft Sill. Furthermore I find no

reference to any "214 FA BRIGADE" at Ft Sill or any other US Army
facility.


I hope this answers your questions.


WILLIAM C ANDERS JR
______________________________________
the above is quote from steve recent post

he said he was going to write and try to comfrim my service in HMC 47th
CSB (provisional) then part of 214th FA 3 copr art Ft Sill ok

I knew he would not confrim the current location of the 47 csb at sill
indeed the unit I believe has been reorgaized out of existance although
the paerent unit of the formation the 47 th Feild Hospital likely
remerges from this I have heard they may be a irag but I frankly don't
know or realy much care

I did not expect steve to dare say the 214th does not exist (it does
http://sill-www.army.mil/3ca/214web/214th.htm )

but I welcome it as it serves as proof that Robeson has lied us and
therfore the claims I and other have made about his veracity ( or
rather the lack there of)

inthat post the Major Of Cap has choosen to fake a comincation from the
US Army it itself. inded after this how can anything he has claimed
about any DoD matter be trusted

It would seem that Robeson admits defeat for the monet by quiting the
feild here in USENET but he will most like be back after he thinks his
misdeeds are forgotten

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Dear Mr. Robeson,


Thank-you for your e-mail of 01 August 2006


In reference to your inquiry, no such unit "HMC 47 CSB
(PROVISIONAL)" has ever been located at Ft Sill. Furthermore I find no

reference to any "214 FA BRIGADE" at Ft Sill or any other US Army
facility.


I hope this answers your questions.


WILLIAM C ANDERS JR
______________________________________
the above is quote from steve recent post

he said he was going to write and try to comfrim my service in HMC 47th
CSB (provisional) then part of 214th FA 3 copr art Ft Sill ok

I knew he would not confrim the current location of the 47 csb at sill
indeed the unit I believe has been reorgaized out of existance although
the paerent unit of the formation the 47 th Feild Hospital likely
remerges from this I have heard they may be a irag but I frankly don't
know or realy much care

I did not expect steve to dare say the 214th does not exist (it does
http://sill-www.army.mil/3ca/214web/214th.htm )

but I welcome it as it serves as proof that Robeson has lied us and
therfore the claims I and other have made about his veracity ( or
rather the lack there of)

inthat post the Major Of Cap has choosen to fake a comincation from the
US Army it itself. inded after this how can anything he has claimed
about any DoD matter be trusted

It would seem that Robeson admits defeat for the monet by quiting the
feild here in USENET but he will most like be back after he thinks his
misdeeds are forgotten


Poor Markie, his lies about his Army "service" are exposed like his
fake EME contacts.

How did that three way sex session go with your shemale wife and your
old dying daddy go last night?

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From: an old friend on Tues, Aug 8 2006 8:19 am
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[Quote of alleged response to unit military history by Major Dud]

Dear Mr. Robeson,

Thank-you for your e-mail of 01 August 2006

In reference to your inquiry, no such unit "HMC 47 CSB
(PROVISIONAL)" has ever been located at Ft Sill. Furthermore I find no
reference to any "214 FA BRIGADE" at Ft Sill or any other US Army
facility.

I hope this answers your questions.

WILLIAM C ANDERS JR
______________________________________

the above is quote from steve recent post

he said he was going to write and try to comfrim my service in HMC 47th
CSB (provisional) then part of 214th FA 3 copr art Ft Sill ok

I knew he would not confrim the current location of the 47 csb at sill
indeed the unit I believe has been reorgaized out of existance although
the paerent unit of the formation the 47 th Feild Hospital likely
remerges from this I have heard they may be a irag but I frankly don't
know or realy much care

I did not expect steve to dare say the 214th does not exist (it does
http://sill-www.army.mil/3ca/214web/214th.htm )


Mark, this alleged "response" to an e-mail inquiry is undoubtedly
BOGUS. Let's review the verity of Major Dud's posting:

1. There is NO verification available that such an exchange
ever existed through any referencable third-party source,
nor any other proof that Major Dud ever made such an
inquiry.

2. The respondent ("William C Anders Jr") is not identified
by position or rank and it is NOT written all-capitals
in any signature. Note: Even civilian employees of the
United States military have a position title which is used
for all correspondence.

3. If a military unit is mentioned, it is protocol (format)
for a unit to be spelled out for the first mention, then
abbreviated. This is for clarity in responding to non-
military correspondents (identifiable by headers in e-mail
when correspondence does not come over the military's
network).

4. It is extremely easy to forge a third-party "message,"
then include it as part of a message in here. That is
NOT "proof" of anything.

5. Contrary to Major Dud's claims, United States Army units
do NOT always keep careful records of their history. The
entire United States military undergoes periodic changes
in structure and new units may be created out of old ones
while older units may be dissolved. Any "history" of a
unit depends on the commanding officers' assignment of
historian duties within that unit, NOT considered an
important/prime task in that unit's mission. Neither are
unit historians typically "in contact" with other units'
historians.

6. Probably the best place for old unit information of the
United States Army is the Army Center for Military History.
They have a website with some limitation on available
information for non-military/non-government research. They
have permanent quarters with considerably detailed written
and photographic records for research by authorized
historians. The United States Navy has a similar
organization, also with a website. A careful web-search
will turn up their URLs.

but I welcome it as it serves as proof that Robeson has lied us and
therfore the claims I and other have made about his veracity ( or
rather the lack there of)


Major Dud BLUFFS his way through his claims on here. He makes
claims of his own and tries to pass off those claims as "truth"
(perhaps because he WANTS his imaginings to be true). Witness:

1. Years of claiming to be an active-duty USMC member yet NO
evidence presented in ANY FORM of claimed 18 years service.
Not one single digitized copy of any official papers, not
one photograph of himself or anything else taken while in
that 18-year service.

2. He has repeatedly challenged "call the VA" to "verify" his
service. However, the Veteran's Administration is NOT the
place to verify that nor will they give out full information
on a past or current service member to just anyone making
an inquiry. The archives of all service members are kept in
the St. Louis National Archives Center and do send out copies
of individuals' records but ONLY to IDENTIFIED individuals
(or their identifiable kin). Copies require a small fee.

3. His claims of anything on QRZ.COM and his AOL home page
are made only by him and are NOT "checked" or "investigated
(for truth)" by either QRZ or AOL. Note that his biography
now has him as "CHOP" (presumably an abbreviation for Chief
Operator) of a second MARS station, whereas he had claimed
earlier on the newsgroup as being "Assistant Chief Operator"
on only one MARS station.

4. We have NO way of verifying that Major Dud is actually a
"Major" in the Tennessee Civilian Air Patrol. He has a
photograph of himself in a (somewhat used) flight suit
with embroidered rank identification (of Captain) on it.
He has not posted any CAP URL that has personnel listings
on it nor has he presented any digitized copy of any
CAP official records concerning him.

5. He once had a photograph of himself as a "First Lieutenant"
in the Tennessee STATE National Guard (not affiliated with
the federal national guard organization) as "communications
officer" of one "brigade" (less than battalion in size
according to the Tennessee State Guard's own website
information. That "career" was short-lived and there are
no records available of either his joining or his leaving.

6. His AOL home page has a link to a National Hang-Gliding
Association and he once claimed to do that. However, he
has never mentioned his glider, its make and model, nor
where he glides, nor anyone he claims to know. We get a
lot of INFERENCE but never any direct reference nor
evidence. I am acquainted with a few hang-gliding
enthusiasts here and they fly at only one location, have
lots of pictures of themselves and others gliding.

inthat post the Major Of Cap has choosen to fake a comincation from the
US Army it itself. inded after this how can anything he has claimed
about any DoD matter be trusted


Mark, we can't trust Major Dud in much of anything on news-
groups. If you recall, Brian Burke and myself took him to
task on the Department of Defense DIRECTIVE on the mission
and organization of the Military Affiliate Radio System.
Major Dud was unaware of that directive, refused to acknowledge
it (yet was downloadable from the DoD by anyone), and kept
claiming for the longest time that "amateurs directed MARS."
They don't. DoD directs MARS. Always has.

After YEARS of claims of active-duty USMC service in here we
haven't been presented with one shred of evidence from either
official or unoffical sources that he ever did what he said
was nor held the rank he claimed.

It would seem that Robeson admits defeat for the monet by quiting the
feild here in USENET but he will most like be back after he thinks his
misdeeds are forgotten


"Nevah hoppen, GI." :-) [old Japlish exclamation of the 50s]

Major Dud will NEVER admit defeat nor will he EVER acknowledge a
correction other than a typographical error. He is a BLUFFER and
bluffers will simply try to misdirect any callings-out on errors
or mistakes...or he will go into an emotional tirade of personal
insults directed at his accusers. If that doesn't work, he
MANUFACTURES "reasons" why his accusers do what they do (or
don't do). False "reasons" supported only by his imagination.

Major Dud lives in a world where IMAGE IS EVERYTHING...rank,
position, "official accreditation," activities of a macho
nature, but, especially, his wishful thinking. He is King in
that world and no one DARE dethrone him!

Major Dud WANTS ATTENTION. So much of the message content in
here involves him and his disputes with others that, before the
onslaught of the middle-school-mind filth-sayers, this news-
group was rife with it. Hardly anything about amateur radio
policy, just Major Dud and his "enemies" endlessly sparring,
egged-on (also endlessly) by Major Dud hisself.

Yes, it would be good if he simply went away. He won't in my
estimation. The Internet and Newsgroups are an excellent
vehicle for his bluffing, inferences of "greatness", etc. He
is SAFE there, isolated by time and distance, and thinks he can
maneuver perceptions of himself by others by his claims and
inferences. Unfortunately, he gets very upset emotionally by
challenges and corrections and erupts in vitriolic behavior
when confronted. Politeness disappears and he becomes
abusive. [he accepts that for, after all, "kings" are
allowed to act that way in his world]

---------

Mark, watch for the responses from the Mighty Major on this
post. :-) His actions will be as I've described. :-)



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From: an old friend on Tues, Aug 8 2006 8:19 am
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[Quote of alleged response to unit military history by Major Dud]

Dear Mr. Robeson,

Thank-you for your e-mail of 01 August 2006

In reference to your inquiry, no such unit "HMC 47 CSB
(PROVISIONAL)" has ever been located at Ft Sill. Furthermore I find no
reference to any "214 FA BRIGADE" at Ft Sill or any other US Army
facility.

I hope this answers your questions.

WILLIAM C ANDERS JR
______________________________________

the above is quote from steve recent post

he said he was going to write and try to comfrim my service in HMC 47th
CSB (provisional) then part of 214th FA 3 copr art Ft Sill ok

I knew he would not confrim the current location of the 47 csb at sill
indeed the unit I believe has been reorgaized out of existance although
the paerent unit of the formation the 47 th Feild Hospital likely
remerges from this I have heard they may be a irag but I frankly don't
know or realy much care

I did not expect steve to dare say the 214th does not exist (it does
http://sill-www.army.mil/3ca/214web/214th.htm )

Mark, this alleged "response" to an e-mail inquiry is undoubtedly
BOGUS. Let's review the verity of Major Dud's posting:


indeed I know it is

1. There is NO verification available that such an exchange
ever existed through any referencable third-party source,
nor any other proof that Major Dud ever made such an
inquiry.

2. The respondent ("William C Anders Jr") is not identified
by position or rank and it is NOT written all-capitals
in any signature. Note: Even civilian employees of the
United States military have a position title which is used
for all correspondence.


you are Right I missed that one but I having already prove it bogus
becuase 214th exista and is still staioned where I said it was you are
just piling on (and you do that so much better than I)

3. If a military unit is mentioned, it is protocol (format)
for a unit to be spelled out for the first mention, then
abbreviated. This is for clarity in responding to non-
military correspondents (identifiable by headers in e-mail
when correspondence does not come over the military's
network).

4. It is extremely easy to forge a third-party "message,"
then include it as part of a message in here. That is
NOT "proof" of anything.



5. Contrary to Major Dud's claims, United States Army units
do NOT always keep careful records of their history. The
entire United States military undergoes periodic changes
in structure and new units may be created out of old ones
while older units may be dissolved. Any "history" of a
unit depends on the commanding officers' assignment of
historian duties within that unit, NOT considered an
important/prime task in that unit's mission. Neither are
unit historians typically "in contact" with other units'
historians.

6. Probably the best place for old unit information of the
United States Army is the Army Center for Military History.
They have a website with some limitation on available
information for non-military/non-government research. They
have permanent quarters with considerably detailed written
and photographic records for research by authorized
historians. The United States Navy has a similar
organization, also with a website. A careful web-search
will turn up their URLs.

but I welcome it as it serves as proof that Robeson has lied us and
therfore the claims I and other have made about his veracity ( or
rather the lack there of)


Major Dud BLUFFS his way through his claims on here. He makes
claims of his own and tries to pass off those claims as "truth"
(perhaps because he WANTS his imaginings to be true). Witness:

1. Years of claiming to be an active-duty USMC member yet NO
evidence presented in ANY FORM of claimed 18 years service.
Not one single digitized copy of any official papers, not
one photograph of himself or anything else taken while in
that 18-year service.

2. He has repeatedly challenged "call the VA" to "verify" his
service. However, the Veteran's Administration is NOT the
place to verify that nor will they give out full information
on a past or current service member to just anyone making
an inquiry. The archives of all service members are kept in
the St. Louis National Archives Center and do send out copies
of individuals' records but ONLY to IDENTIFIED individuals
(or their identifiable kin). Copies require a small fee.

3. His claims of anything on QRZ.COM and his AOL home page
are made only by him and are NOT "checked" or "investigated
(for truth)" by either QRZ or AOL. Note that his biography
now has him as "CHOP" (presumably an abbreviation for Chief
Operator) of a second MARS station, whereas he had claimed
earlier on the newsgroup as being "Assistant Chief Operator"
on only one MARS station.

4. We have NO way of verifying that Major Dud is actually a
"Major" in the Tennessee Civilian Air Patrol. He has a
photograph of himself in a (somewhat used) flight suit
with embroidered rank identification (of Captain) on it.
He has not posted any CAP URL that has personnel listings
on it nor has he presented any digitized copy of any
CAP official records concerning him.


Will you take My word for it? Steven J Robeson was at least a major in
CAP on or about 13 jan 2006 I base this on My own conversation with the
Office of CAP Military Liason
Dudly has complained loudly to this forum about my effort to seek
jusitce though channels

5. He once had a photograph of himself as a "First Lieutenant"
in the Tennessee STATE National Guard (not affiliated with
the federal national guard organization) as "communications
officer" of one "brigade" (less than battalion in size
according to the Tennessee State Guard's own website
information. That "career" was short-lived and there are
no records available of either his joining or his leaving.

6. His AOL home page has a link to a National Hang-Gliding
Association and he once claimed to do that. However, he
has never mentioned his glider, its make and model, nor
where he glides, nor anyone he claims to know. We get a
lot of INFERENCE but never any direct reference nor
evidence. I am acquainted with a few hang-gliding
enthusiasts here and they fly at only one location, have
lots of pictures of themselves and others gliding.

inthat post the Major Of Cap has choosen to fake a comincation from the
US Army it itself. inded after this how can anything he has claimed
about any DoD matter be trusted


Mark, we can't trust Major Dud in much of anything on news-
groups. If you recall, Brian Burke and myself took him to
task on the Department of Defense DIRECTIVE on the mission
and organization of the Military Affiliate Radio System.
Major Dud was unaware of that directive, refused to acknowledge
it (yet was downloadable from the DoD by anyone), and kept
claiming for the longest time that "amateurs directed MARS."
They don't. DoD directs MARS. Always has.


indeed dudly is leaving quite a trail of bread crumbs these days

After YEARS of claims of active-duty USMC service in here we
haven't been presented with one shred of evidence from either
official or unoffical sources that he ever did what he said
was nor held the rank he claimed.

It would seem that Robeson admits defeat for the monet by quiting the
feild here in USENET but he will most like be back after he thinks his
misdeeds are forgotten


"Nevah hoppen, GI." :-) [old Japlish exclamation of the 50s]

Major Dud will NEVER admit defeat nor will he EVER acknowledge a
correction other than a typographical error. He is a BLUFFER and
bluffers will simply try to misdirect any callings-out on errors
or mistakes...or he will go into an emotional tirade of personal
insults directed at his accusers. If that doesn't work, he
MANUFACTURES "reasons" why his accusers do what they do (or
don't do). False "reasons" supported only by his imagination.

Major Dud lives in a world where IMAGE IS EVERYTHING...rank,
position, "official accreditation," activities of a macho
nature, but, especially, his wishful thinking. He is King in
that world and no one DARE dethrone him!

Major Dud WANTS ATTENTION. So much of the message content in
here involves him and his disputes with others that, before the
onslaught of the middle-school-mind filth-sayers, this news-
group was rife with it. Hardly anything about amateur radio
policy, just Major Dud and his "enemies" endlessly sparring,
egged-on (also endlessly) by Major Dud hisself.

Yes, it would be good if he simply went away. He won't in my
estimation. The Internet and Newsgroups are an excellent
vehicle for his bluffing, inferences of "greatness", etc. He
is SAFE there, isolated by time and distance, and thinks he can
maneuver perceptions of himself by others by his claims and
inferences. Unfortunately, he gets very upset emotionally by
challenges and corrections and erupts in vitriolic behavior
when confronted. Politeness disappears and he becomes
abusive. [he accepts that for, after all, "kings" are
allowed to act that way in his world]

---------

Mark, watch for the responses from the Mighty Major on this
post. :-) His actions will be as I've described. :-)


you may be right f it truns out that way I amitt to error

my own is he will without comment several weeks an then reutrn a in
blaze of libel when he think we have forgotten (or maybe when he just
can't stand it anymore)



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wrote:
From: an old friend on Tues, Aug 8 2006 8:19 am
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[Quote of alleged response to unit military history by Major Dud]


Major who?

Dear Mr. Robeson,

Thank-you for your e-mail of 01 August 2006

In reference to your inquiry, no such unit "HMC 47 CSB
(PROVISIONAL)" has ever been located at Ft Sill. Furthermore I find no
reference to any "214 FA BRIGADE" at Ft Sill or any other US Army
facility.

I hope this answers your questions.

WILLIAM C ANDERS JR
______________________________________

the above is quote from steve recent post

he said he was going to write and try to comfrim my service in HMC 47th
CSB (provisional) then part of 214th FA 3 copr art Ft Sill ok

I knew he would not confrim the current location of the 47 csb at sill
indeed the unit I believe has been reorgaized out of existance although
the paerent unit of the formation the 47 th Feild Hospital likely
remerges from this I have heard they may be a irag but I frankly don't
know or realy much care

I did not expect steve to dare say the 214th does not exist (it does
http://sill-www.army.mil/3ca/214web/214th.htm )

Mark, this alleged "response" to an e-mail inquiry is undoubtedly
BOGUS. Let's review the verity of Major Dud's posting:


Major who?

1. There is NO verification available that such an exchange
ever existed through any referencable third-party source,
nor any other proof that Major Dud ever made such an
inquiry.


There doesn't need to be, Lennie..

Morkie himlself confirmed that his "HMC 47th CSB" unit was bogus.

Remainder of Lennie Rant Snipped due to lack of relevent and
factual context.

In other words...More LennieLies

Steve, K4YZ



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K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
From: an old friend on Tues, Aug 8 2006 8:19 am
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1. There is NO verification available that such an exchange
ever existed through any referencable third-party source,
nor any other proof that Major Dud ever made such an
inquiry.


There doesn't need to be, Lennie..

Morkie himlself confirmed that his "HMC 47th CSB" unit was bogus.

I said no such thing I said correctly that the 47th is no longer at Ft
Sill you claimed the the 214th does not exist either
" Furthermore I find no reference to any "214 FA BRIGADE" at Ft Sill or
any other US Army
facility. "
while 2 minutes with google.com finds
http://sill-www.army.mil/3ca/214web/214th.htm

Remainder of Lennie Rant Snipped due to lack of relevent and
factual context.

you are the one with no factual content

In other words...More LennieLies

nope more efforts by Robeson to lie

to lenn you were right I was worng stve is dumb enough to brazen this
out his lies some more

Steve, K4YZ


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K4YZ wrote:
an old friend wrote:
wrote:
From: an old friend on Tues, Aug 8 2006 8:19 am
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[Quote of alleged response to unit military history by Major Dud]

Dear Mr. Robeson,

Thank-you for your e-mail of 01 August 2006

In reference to your inquiry, no such unit "HMC 47 CSB
(PROVISIONAL)" has ever been located at Ft Sill. Furthermore I find no
reference to any "214 FA BRIGADE" at Ft Sill or any other US Army
facility.

I hope this answers your questions.

WILLIAM C ANDERS JR
______________________________________
the above is quote from steve recent post


I did not expect steve to dare say the 214th does not exist (it does
http://sill-www.army.mil/3ca/214web/214th.htm )

Mark, this alleged "response" to an e-mail inquiry is undoubtedly
BOGUS. Let's review the verity of Major Dud's posting:


indeed I know it is


Oh...So now you've retracted your admission that your "HMC 47th
CSB" is non-existant?


I made no such admission
what about you lie that the 214th FA does not exist
http://sill-www.army.mil/3ca/214web/214th.htm )


my own is he will without comment several weeks an then reutrn a in
blaze of libel when he think we have forgotten (or maybe when he just
can't stand it anymore)


What libel, Morkie?

do you realy have such a short memeory


Steve, K4YZ


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no steve got caught the NG is now full of proof both units that he
claim never existsed did

get some therapy both of you

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From: on Tues, Aug 8 2006 7:11 pm
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wrote:
From: an old friend on Tues, Aug 8 2006 8:19 am
Groups: rec.radio.amateur.policy, rec.radio.cb, rec.radio.amateur.misc, alt.military.cap


[Quote of alleged response to unit military history by Major Dud]


[fake quote omitted for decency]


Mark, this alleged "response" to an e-mail inquiry is undoubtedly
BOGUS. Let's review the verity of Major Dud's posting:


1. There is NO verification available that such an exchange
ever existed through any referencable third-party source,
nor any other proof that Major Dud ever made such an
inquiry.


Correct.


Hello Brian...long time no write... :-)

We've all seen the usual bluffing, lying, etc., by Major Dud, this
time on a slightly different subject. He expects us all to "take
his word on it (that it is true).

BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!! !!

[...it is to laugh...out loud and for a long time...]


2. The respondent ("William C Anders Jr") is not identified
by position or rank and it is NOT written all-capitals
in any signature. Note: Even civilian employees of the
United States military have a position title which is used
for all correspondence.


Correct.


Poor "Major" Dud may have once seen an ancient mineographed
order-of-the-day or perhaps has a yellowing 5-bit-code TTY
message where everything is in caps. He may think that is
still in use, poor guy.


3. If a military unit is mentioned, it is protocol (format)
for a unit to be spelled out for the first mention, then
abbreviated. This is for clarity in responding to non-
military correspondents (identifiable by headers in e-mail
when correspondence does not come over the military's
network).


Correct.


Poor feller Dud just doesn't understand, perhaps no know about,
the DSN and its header information, terminal software able to
identify civilians from military personnel on Internet tie-ins.


4. It is extremely easy to forge a third-party "message,"
then include it as part of a message in here. That is
NOT "proof" of anything.


Correct.


Well, it's proof that fraud was committed. :-)


5. Contrary to Major Dud's claims, United States Army units
do NOT always keep careful records of their history. The
entire United States military undergoes periodic changes
in structure and new units may be created out of old ones
while older units may be dissolved. Any "history" of a
unit depends on the commanding officers' assignment of
historian duties within that unit, NOT considered an
important/prime task in that unit's mission. Neither are
unit historians typically "in contact" with other units'
historians.


Correct. The priority usually falls somewhere below that of the unit A
NCOIC MARS.


Heh heh heh.

MARS functions in existing units is still largely concerned with
morale services for unit personnel. It is hardly there to "back
up" any regular unit communications, much less be some key
ingredient in some pipe-dream "Homeland Defense Against Terrorists"
or other wild imaginings.

On putting together a photo essay of my own service days at a major
Army communications station

http://sujan.hallikainen.org/Broadca...s/My3Years.pdf
and /AlphabetSoup.pdf

I ran into the usual shoulder-shrugging "don't know" from a number
of official agencies at first, everyone from the Army's Center for
Military History to Fort Gordon's Signal Museum Historian's Office.

It took a LOT more digging and communicating with other agencies
and units to get the final evolutionary path (including the USAF,
I might add) of the 71st Signal Service Battalion of 1945 to the
78th Signal Battalion of today (based at Camp Zama, Japan, near
Yokohama). It helped to have acquired a paper copy of my old
battalion's own printing in 1962 describing the (then) updated
station ADA and its mission, equipment, and history (to that date).

Even the Pacific Stars and Stripes military newspaper (HQ in
Tokyo) helped with data. Ask nicely and it is surprising how
helpful some can be. A not-quite-related sorce of information on
Army communications turned up the fact that the old callsign
"ADA" of Tokyo times in the '50s still exists and is now the HQ
callsign of USARPAC, the United States Army, Pacific.

An even more detailed and comprehensive history of Army history
(on Signal units) in Europe since 1945 ("USAREUR") is on-line at:

http://usarmygermany.com/Units/Signa...ignalCorps.htm


6. Probably the best place for old unit information of the
United States Army is the Army Center for Military History.
They have a website with some limitation on available
information for non-military/non-government research. They
have permanent quarters with considerably detailed written
and photographic records for research by authorized
historians. The United States Navy has a similar
organization, also with a website. A careful web-search
will turn up their URLs.


And will probably turn up Steve's faked career.


Heh heh, no. Neither historical agency has lists of fakers.

The only place where Robeson's "military career" could be
verified or shown non-existant is NARA, the National Archives
and Records Administration, and their massive military records
archive in St. Louis. Getting such data requires a minimum
knowledge of Robeson's social security number and proof of being
a member of his family. NARA gives definitions of that and other
necessary information to obtain individuals' records.

Since Robeson has refused to display even one item of official
information, personal photograph while in-service, all on a
claimed "18 year active duty" with the USMC, we have to conclude
he NEVER HAD ANY SUCH ACTIVE DUTY TIME. The only photos he has
had for claims of anything have been as a TN STATE Guard "1st
Lieutenant" (scowling pose in cammies) or the infamous snot-on-
moustache pose in a (used) flight suit with embroidered Captain's
bars on the shoulders, as a member of the CAP. Not ONE single
bit of information from EIGHTEEN YEARS claimed on active duty
in the USMC.

The only conclusion possible is that Robeson is a fraud, an
imposter, a wanna-be who never-was.

If Robeson makes fraudulent claims about 18 years of his life,
what ELSE is he claiming fraudulently?


3. His claims of anything on QRZ.COM and his AOL home page
are made only by him and are NOT "checked" or "investigated
(for truth)" by either QRZ or AOL. Note that his biography
now has him as "CHOP" (presumably an abbreviation for Chief
Operator) of a second MARS station, whereas he had claimed
earlier on the newsgroup as being "Assistant Chief Operator"
on only one MARS station.


A NCOIC MARS?


You betcha. Go to the K4YZ "detailed info" link and use the
link at the end to access his home page. In that he claims a
SECOND MARS station service, this time as THE NCOIC. Just
more embellishment by the imposter.

Robeson needs IMAGE of his mighty and heroic accomplishments.
Slathering on more embellishments (never before mentioned)
seem to be a part of that.



Mark, watch for the responses from the Mighty Major on this
post. :-) His actions will be as I've described.


Tsk, tsk on me...I forgot to include Robeson's usual response
and answer to things he can't prove as being "LIES" by the
challenger. :-)

To him, it IS a "LIE." His fantasy world is made up differently
than the reality we are all accustomed to...any departure from
that fantasyland will SEEM like a "LIE" to him. Naturally he
is disturbed about his fantasyworld being torn asunder.

---------

We can all concentrate on the personal squabbles of a few,
the anonymous middle-school-mentality-macho-wanna-bes
happily talking dirty...OR...consider the FCC document
release of 7 August 2006 on Access BPL. That's available
at www.fcc.gov as FCC-06-113A1 in PDF or MS Word format.

That's a REAL Policy matter. But it's too difficult for
those anonymous middle-school-mentality-macho-wanna-bes
who would rather throw trash and dirty words on others.




Len, how've you been?


Just dandy, Brian, hope you've been the same. :-)

Been too busy with other things than to come into this
Din of Inequity more than once or twice a month. Not worth
it with some of these creatures. :-)

LHA

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