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New SkyWave 2879ABTC on Schedule for Release in October06
an old friend wrote:
wrote: woger try http://www.mipsor.state.mi.us/**mipsor Great post... LOL www.telstar-electronics.com |
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"Telstar Electronics" wrote:
an old friend wrote: wrote: woger try http://www.mipsor.state.mi.us/=AD=ADmipsor Great post... LOL www.asshat-electronics.com Great post... LOL |
New SkyWave 2879ABTC on Schedule for Release in October06
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"Telstar Electronics" wrote in
oups.com: http://www.telstar-electronics.com/img_0003.jpg I don't suppose you have a schematic of that available on the web. It would be neat to see. SC |
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Slow Code wrote:
"Telstar Electronics" wrote in oups.com: http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/da...25/ln01a_b.jpg I don't suppose you have a schematic of that available on the web. It would be neat to see. I have a dumpster full. |
New SkyWave 2879ABTC on Schedule for Release in October06
Slow Code wrote:
I don't suppose you have a schematic of that available on the web. It would be neat to see. Sorry, but the schematic for this design is proprietary at this time. www.telstar-electronics.com |
New SkyWave 2879ABTC on Schedule for Release in October06
On 15 Sep 2006 17:15:15 -0700, "Telstar Electronics"
wrote in .com: Slow Code wrote: I don't suppose you have a schematic of that available on the web. It would be neat to see. Sorry, but the schematic for this design is proprietary at this time. ROTFLMMFAO!!!!! |
New SkyWave 2879ABTC on Schedule for Release in October06
On a sunny day (Fri, 15 Sep 2006 23:25:17 GMT) it happened Slow Code
wrote in .net: "Telstar Electronics" wrote in roups.com: http://www.telstar-electronics.com/img_0003.jpg I don't suppose you have a schematic of that available on the web. It would be neat to see. SC Well, I am looking at the picture.... We i nEurope use metal film resistors now almost exclusively I think, not carbon? Maybe it is just the color coding. It is quite easy to make a partlist from the photo, many things are obvious if you look up 2SC2829 application notes.... I would expect some thermistor for temp compensation, he is so proud of, do not see it. I just did some googling,. yes I like FETS, http://www.ibelings.com/n4ip/mrf157.html 1kW, with micro processor control http://www.k0gkd.com/ssamp.html 600 W with fan But for his first amp ;-), not bad! |
New SkyWave 2879ABTC on Schedule for Release in October06
On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 11:14:07 GMT, Jan Panteltje
wrote in : On a sunny day (Fri, 15 Sep 2006 23:25:17 GMT) it happened Slow Code wrote in k.net: "Telstar Electronics" wrote in groups.com: http://www.telstar-electronics.com/img_0003.jpg I don't suppose you have a schematic of that available on the web. It would be neat to see. SC Well, I am looking at the picture.... We i nEurope use metal film resistors now almost exclusively I think, not carbon? Maybe it is just the color coding. It is quite easy to make a partlist from the photo, many things are obvious if you look up 2SC2829 application notes.... I would expect some thermistor for temp compensation, he is so proud of, do not see it. I just did some googling,. yes I like FETS, http://www.ibelings.com/n4ip/mrf157.html 1kW, with micro processor control http://www.k0gkd.com/ssamp.html 600 W with fan But for his first amp ;-), not bad! It's not his first amp..... more like his fifth or sixth. He's been using this forum to spam his junk for years. Go back through the archives and you will see discussions about the cheap, diode-biased, class-C hacks he has tried to pass off as a "linear" amps. He even went so far to defend the designs by saying that "Linearity is not 'required' for AM...."; invoking the flywheel effect when there was no flywheel (tank) in the design; declaring that a 179 degree conduction angle did not introduce any significant distortion, irrespective of the low input impedance of the transistors pushing the conduction angle closer to 120-150 degrees..... and a bunch of other technical voodoo, hocus-pocus and nonsense. And all the time claiming to be a professional engineer while dismissing (yet later incorporating) most any constructive criticism. The only thing the Professor has professed here is fraud. |
New SkyWave 2879ABTC on Schedule for Release in October06
Jan Panteltje wrote:
I would expect some thermistor for temp compensation, he is so proud of, do not see it. The temperature compensation is accomplished with a bipolar transistor mounted to the sink near the RF devices. You can see it in the photos. Since this transistor is also silicon, it tracks almost perfectly with the RF devices... and with a little extra circuitry (that is voltage regulated)... can hold the bias very stable over a wide temperature range. www.telstar-electronics.com |
New SkyWave 2879ABTC on Schedule for Release in October06
Frank Gilliland wrote:
It's not his first amp..... more like his fifth or sixth. He's been using this forum to spam his junk for years. Go back through the archives and you will see discussions about the cheap, diode-biased, class-C hacks he has tried to pass off as a "linear" amps. He even went so far to defend the designs by saying that "Linearity is not 'required' for AM...."; invoking the flywheel effect when there was no flywheel (tank) in the design; declaring that a 179 degree conduction angle did not introduce any significant distortion, irrespective of the low input impedance of the transistors pushing the conduction angle closer to 120-150 degrees..... and a bunch of other technical voodoo, hocus-pocus and nonsense. And all the time claiming to be a professional engineer while dismissing (yet later incorporating) most any constructive criticism. Frank, still waiting to see your design... nuff said... LOL www.telstar-electronics.com |
New SkyWave 2879ABTC on Schedule for Release in October06
On a sunny day (16 Sep 2006 07:43:17 -0700) it happened "Telstar Electronics"
wrote in om: Jan Panteltje wrote: I would expect some thermistor for temp compensation, he is so proud of, do not see it. The temperature compensation is accomplished with a bipolar transistor mounted to the sink near the RF devices. You can see it in the photos. Since this transistor is also silicon, it tracks almost perfectly with the RF devices... and with a little extra circuitry (that is voltage regulated)... can hold the bias very stable over a wide temperature range. Yes, that is a known technique, was already wondering what that transistor was for. Why do you start a new subject line?, It should start with (as you _do_ have a reference line. Bad usenet practice. |
New SkyWave 2879ABTC on Schedule for Release in October06
Jan Panteltje wrote: Well, I am looking at the picture.... We i nEurope use metal film resistors now almost exclusively I think, not carbon? Maybe it is just the color coding. I use both metal film and carbon film resistors... www.telstar-electronics.com |
New SkyWave 2879ABTC on Schedule for Release in October06
On 16 Sep 2006 07:46:07 -0700, "Telstar Electronics"
wrote in .com: Frank Gilliland wrote: It's not his first amp..... more like his fifth or sixth. He's been using this forum to spam his junk for years. Go back through the archives and you will see discussions about the cheap, diode-biased, class-C hacks he has tried to pass off as a "linear" amps. He even went so far to defend the designs by saying that "Linearity is not 'required' for AM...."; invoking the flywheel effect when there was no flywheel (tank) in the design; declaring that a 179 degree conduction angle did not introduce any significant distortion, irrespective of the low input impedance of the transistors pushing the conduction angle closer to 120-150 degrees..... and a bunch of other technical voodoo, hocus-pocus and nonsense. And all the time claiming to be a professional engineer while dismissing (yet later incorporating) most any constructive criticism. Frank, still waiting to see your design... nuff said... LOL Sorry, my design is proprietary at this time. |
New SkyWave 2879ABTC on Schedule for Release in October06
Frank Gilliland wrote:
Sorry, my design is proprietary at this time. Frank, don't you mean nonexistent... LOL www.telstar-electronics.com |
New SkyWave 2879ABTC on Schedule for Release in October06
Steveo wrote in
: Slow Code wrote: "Telstar Electronics" wrote in oups.com: http://www.telstar-electronics.com/img_0003.jpg I don't suppose you have a schematic of that available on the web. It would be neat to see. I have a dumpster full. You being a typical clueless CB'er and not able to understand schematics, it's only natural your dumb ass would toss them in a dumpster. SC |
New SkyWave 2879ABTC on Schedule for Release in October06
On 16 Sep 2006 14:05:57 -0700, "Telstar Electronics"
wrote in .com: Frank Gilliland wrote: Sorry, my design is proprietary at this time. Frank, don't you mean nonexistent... LOL Let's put it this way, Brian: Ampheads don't care if their signal is clean or not, just BIG and LOUD. They don't care about biasing or linearity or thermal protection.... on the contrary, most of them actually -brag- when they blow a pill or smoke a resistor. In other words, you are building your product for the wrong market! Since you obviously failed your business courses, criticism of your designs was intended to encourage you to pursue either an amateur license or a professional career in electronics engineering. You have made big strides in your electronics education in the past few years, but you are still clinging to the notion of making easy money from illegal amps. And because of that your "business" has stalled. Get a -real- job, go back to school, learn all the things about electronics and marketing that you -should- have learned before you started this venture, then apply that education in a way that will let you achieve your financial goals. And -that-, dear Brian, is MY design. |
New SkyWave 2879ABTC on Schedule for Release in October06
I don't suppose you have a schematic of that available on the web. It
would be neat to see. Steveo wrote in I have a dumpster full. Slow Code wrote: You being a typical clueless CB'er and not able to understand schematics, it's only natural your dumb ass would toss them in a dumpster. LOL... how right you are SC. What chance does a guy who admits making his living in agriculture know about reading a schematic. Absolutely hilarious... www.telstar-electronics.com |
New SkyWave 2879ABTC on Schedule for Release in October06
Frank Gilliland wrote:
Let's put it this way, Brian: Ampheads don't care if their signal is clean or not, just BIG and LOUD. They don't care about biasing or linearity or thermal protection.... on the contrary, most of them actually -brag- when they blow a pill or smoke a resistor. In other words, you are building your product for the wrong market! Since you obviously failed your business courses, criticism of your designs was intended to encourage you to pursue either an amateur license or a professional career in electronics engineering. You have made big strides in your electronics education in the past few years, but you are still clinging to the notion of making easy money from illegal amps. And because of that your "business" has stalled. Get a -real- job, go back to school, learn all the things about electronics and marketing that you -should- have learned before you started this venture, then apply that education in a way that will let you achieve your financial goals. And -that-, dear Brian, is MY design. Frank, you're hopeless... www.telstar-electronics.com |
New SkyWave 2879ABTC on Schedule for Release in October06
"Telstar Electronics" wrote in message oups.com... I don't suppose you have a schematic of that available on the web. It would be neat to see. Steveo wrote in I have a dumpster full. Slow Code wrote: You being a typical clueless CB'er and not able to understand schematics, it's only natural your dumb ass would toss them in a dumpster. LOL... how right you are SC. What chance does a guy who admits making his living in agriculture know about reading a schematic. Absolutely hilarious... And you are doing what? Updating old Motorola bulletins, and building electronic turn signal flashers that don't fit half of today's vehicles, and most that it does fit are antiques. Yeah, big demand for you! ROTFLMMFAO!!! |
New SkyWave 2879ABTC on Schedule for Release in October06
"Telstar Electronics" wrote in message oups.com... I don't suppose you have a schematic of that available on the web. It would be neat to see. Steveo wrote in I have a dumpster full. Slow Code wrote: You being a typical clueless CB'er and not able to understand schematics, it's only natural your dumb ass would toss them in a dumpster. LOL... how right you are SC. What chance does a guy who admits making his living in agriculture know about reading a schematic. Absolutely hilarious... And you make a living breaking federal law. |
New SkyWave 2879ABTC on Schedule for Release in October06
On 16 Sep 2006 17:12:45 -0700, "Telstar Electronics"
wrote in om: Frank Gilliland wrote: snip And -that-, dear Brian, is MY design. Frank, you're hopeless... Gee, you sure told -me-, huh? Go away. |
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New SkyWave 2879ABTC on Schedule for Release in October06
On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 00:26:40 GMT, "U-Know-Who"
wrote: +++ +++"Telstar Electronics" wrote in message legroups.com... +++ I don't suppose you have a schematic of that available on the web. It +++ would be neat to see. +++ +++ Steveo wrote in +++ I have a dumpster full. +++ +++ Slow Code wrote: +++ You being a typical clueless CB'er and not able to understand schematics, +++ it's only natural your dumb ass would toss them in a dumpster. +++ +++ LOL... how right you are SC. What chance does a guy who admits making +++ his living in agriculture know about reading a schematic. Absolutely +++ hilarious... +++ +++And you make a living breaking federal law. +++ ************ I was wondering when someone would mention this. I do seem to remember a clause in part 95 and/or in 97 that talks about the manufacture of amplifiers in the range of 25 to 50 MHz. I guess I must go back and review these to regulatory documents and determine if the FCC has recended some previous rules. james |
New SkyWave 2879ABTC on Schedule for Release in October06
On 15 Sep 2006 16:06:39 -0700, "Telstar Electronics"
wrote: +++http://www.telstar-electronics.com/img_0003.jpg ************ I must say the amp does look pretty with all that solder mask and sild screen. I can agree that it does make it look professional. Most amps I have seen have been without solder mask and silk screen. I can't see why one would do that. The solder mask and silk screen has to be a significant cost adder. I would think that one would not go to that expense for such low production levels. Besides tin plate over 2 oz copper is significant for amplifiers. That is 2 oz copper on the boards I hope? james |
New SkyWave 2879ABTC on Schedule for Release in October06
"james" wrote in message ... On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 00:26:40 GMT, "U-Know-Who" wrote: +++ +++"Telstar Electronics" wrote in message glegroups.com... +++ I don't suppose you have a schematic of that available on the web. It +++ would be neat to see. +++ +++ Steveo wrote in +++ I have a dumpster full. +++ +++ Slow Code wrote: +++ You being a typical clueless CB'er and not able to understand schematics, +++ it's only natural your dumb ass would toss them in a dumpster. +++ +++ LOL... how right you are SC. What chance does a guy who admits making +++ his living in agriculture know about reading a schematic. Absolutely +++ hilarious... +++ +++And you make a living breaking federal law. +++ ************ I was wondering when someone would mention this. I do seem to remember a clause in part 95 and/or in 97 that talks about the manufacture of amplifiers in the range of 25 to 50 MHz. I guess I must go back and review these to regulatory documents and determine if the FCC has recended some previous rules. james They have not. A licensed ham can manufacture one per year that operates without modification in this bandwidth (26-30Mhz). Real commercial amp manufacturers require proof of license before they will divulge the mod procedures to make one operate on 10 meters, or sell the kit to make it operate there. |
New SkyWave 2879ABTC on Schedule for Release in October06
james wrote:
I must say the amp does look pretty with all that solder mask and sild screen. I can agree that it does make it look professional. Most amps I have seen have been without solder mask and silk screen. I can't see why one would do that. The solder mask and silk screen has to be a significant cost adder. I would think that one would not go to that expense for such low production levels. Besides tin plate over 2 oz copper is significant for amplifiers. That is 2 oz copper on the boards I hope? James, I take no shortcuts. I give my customers the best in quality and reliability. www.telstar-electronics.com |
New SkyWave 2879ABTC on Schedule for Release in October06
U-Know-Who wrote:
And you are doing what? Updating old Motorola bulletins, and building electronic turn signal flashers that don't fit half of today's vehicles, and most that it does fit are antiques. Yeah, big demand for you! ROTFLMMFAO!!! Thanks for visiting my web site... www.telstar-electronics.com |
New SkyWave 2879ABTC on Schedule for Release in October06
Frank Gilliland wrote: Let's put it this way, Brian: Ampheads don't care if their signal is clean or not, just BIG and LOUD. They don't care about biasing or linearity or thermal protection.... on the contrary, most of them actually -brag- when they blow a pill or smoke a resistor. Frank, you seem to have a very low opinion of CBers... then why do you seem to gravitate to this NG? What business could you possibly have here with these CBers you loathe?... LOL www.telstar-electronics.com |
New SkyWave 2879ABTC on Schedule for Release in October06
On 17 Sep 2006 09:08:40 -0700, "Telstar Electronics"
wrote in .com: Frank Gilliland wrote: Let's put it this way, Brian: Ampheads don't care if their signal is clean or not, just BIG and LOUD. They don't care about biasing or linearity or thermal protection.... on the contrary, most of them actually -brag- when they blow a pill or smoke a resistor. Frank, you seem to have a very low opinion of CBers... Wrong. I have a very low opinion of "ampheads". I have absolutely nothing against CBers since I happen to be one myself. There are lots of decent CBers out there and in the group. |
New SkyWave 2879ABTC on Schedule for Release in October06
On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 02:48:46 GMT, "U-Know-Who"
wrote: +++ +++"james" wrote in message m... +++ On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 00:26:40 GMT, "U-Know-Who" +++ wrote: +++ ++++++ ++++++"Telstar Electronics" wrote in message ++++++news:1158451393.841377.178340@m73g2000cwd .googlegroups.com... ++++++ I don't suppose you have a schematic of that available on the +++web. It ++++++ would be neat to see. ++++++ ++++++ Steveo wrote in ++++++ I have a dumpster full. ++++++ ++++++ Slow Code wrote: ++++++ You being a typical clueless CB'er and not able to understand +++schematics, ++++++ it's only natural your dumb ass would toss them in a dumpster. ++++++ ++++++ LOL... how right you are SC. What chance does a guy who admits making ++++++ his living in agriculture know about reading a schematic. Absolutely ++++++ hilarious... ++++++ ++++++And you make a living breaking federal law. ++++++ +++ ************ +++ +++ I was wondering when someone would mention this. I do seem to remember +++ a clause in part 95 and/or in 97 that talks about the manufacture of +++ amplifiers in the range of 25 to 50 MHz. I guess I must go back and +++ review these to regulatory documents and determine if the FCC has +++ recended some previous rules. +++ +++ james +++ +++They have not. A licensed ham can manufacture one per year that operates +++without modification in this bandwidth (26-30Mhz). Real commercial amp +++manufacturers require proof of license before they will divulge the mod +++procedures to make one operate on 10 meters, or sell the kit to make it +++operate there. +++ ************ Actually the provison is up to 5 units per year I believe. I should have differentiated between amature self contruction and that of comercial manufacture. My fault there. james |
New SkyWave 2879ABTC on Schedule for Release in October06
On 17 Sep 2006 06:16:04 -0700, "Telstar Electronics"
wrote: +++james wrote: +++ I must say the amp does look pretty with all that solder mask and sild +++ screen. I can agree that it does make it look professional. Most amps +++ I have seen have been without solder mask and silk screen. +++ +++ I can't see why one would do that. The solder mask and silk screen has +++ to be a significant cost adder. I would think that one would not go to +++ that expense for such low production levels. Besides tin plate over 2 +++ oz copper is significant for amplifiers. That is 2 oz copper on the +++ boards I hope? +++ +++James, I take no shortcuts. I give my customers the best in quality and +++reliability. +++ +++www.telstar-electronics.com **************** If you say so. I find silkscreening a luxury that in no way affects quality. Solder mask is good for high density boards to help in minimize solder shorts during reflow. Your board is not that high a dense board. james |
New SkyWave 2879ABTC on Schedule for Release in October06
james wrote:
If you say so. I find silkscreening a luxury that in no way affects quality. Solder mask is good for high density boards to help in minimize solder shorts during reflow. Your board is not that high a dense board. You're right... the silk screen has nothing to do with quality. It mainly is an aid during construction. It also has benefits during any repair procedures... to quickly locate components of interest. The mask is also a nice feature during construction to avoid soldering issues. I don't scrimp on these things... they are well worth the few dollars per board in the long run. They also show potential customers that I'm serious about making a premium product... just like boards you might find in high-end commercial and consumer electronics. www.telstar-electronics.com |
New SkyWave 2879ABTC on Schedule for Release in October06
On 17 Sep 2006 16:38:30 -0700, "Telstar Electronics"
wrote in . com: james wrote: If you say so. I find silkscreening a luxury that in no way affects quality. Solder mask is good for high density boards to help in minimize solder shorts during reflow. Your board is not that high a dense board. You're right... the silk screen has nothing to do with quality. It mainly is an aid during construction. It also has benefits during any repair procedures... to quickly locate components of interest. The mask is also a nice feature during construction to avoid soldering issues. I don't scrimp on these things... they are well worth the few dollars per board in the long run. They also show potential customers that I'm serious about making a premium product... just like boards you might find in high-end commercial and consumer electronics. You can give your car a $1500 paint job, mount some 20" spinners, install a 12-speaker system with 500 watt subs, etc, etc; but no matter how much you dress it up it's still going to be an AMC Gremlin. |
New SkyWave 2879ABTC on Schedule for Release in October06
Frank Gilliland wrote:
You can give a car a $1500 paint job, mount some 20" spinners, install a 12-speaker system with 500 watt subs, etc, etc; but no matter how much you dress it up it's still going to be an AMC Gremlin. Frank, we're not talking about your car on this thread... LOL www.telstar-electronics.com |
New piece of shit on Schedule for Release in October
"Telstar Electronics" wrote:
I don't suppose you have a schematic of that available on the web. It would be neat to see. Steveo wrote in I have a dumpster full. Slow Code wrote: You being a typical clueless CB'er and not able to understand schematics, it's only natural your dumb ass would toss them in a dumpster. LOL... how right you are SC. Slurp the CB hating troll, Brian. What chance does a guy who admits making his living in agriculture Yes, I'm quite proud of my business accomplishments over the last 28 years. How many years have you been making illegal CB amps for a living, Brian? www.telSPAM//SLAP |
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"Telstar Electronics" wrote:
Frank Gilliland wrote: Let's put it this way, Brian: Ampheads don't care if their signal is clean or not, just BIG and LOUD. They don't care about biasing or linearity or thermal protection.... on the contrary, most of them actually -brag- when they blow a pill or smoke a resistor. Frank, you seem to have a very low opinion of CBers. No he doesn't. Try reading your buddy slow codes posts concerning CB. www.telSPAM//SLAP |
New SkyWave 2879ABTC on Schedule for Release in October06
"U-Know-Who" wrote:
"Telstar Electronics" wrote in message oups.com... I don't suppose you have a schematic of that available on the web. It would be neat to see. Steveo wrote in I have a dumpster full. Slow Code wrote: You being a typical clueless CB'er and not able to understand schematics, it's only natural your dumb ass would toss them in a dumpster. LOL... how right you are SC. What chance does a guy who admits making his living in agriculture know about reading a schematic. Absolutely hilarious... And you are doing what? Updating old Motorola bulletins, and building electronic turn signal flashers that don't fit half of today's vehicles, and most that it does fit are antiques. Yeah, big demand for you! ROTFLMMFAO!!! I can't imagine there's much demand for his CB amp either. |
New piece of shit on Schedule for Release in October
Steveo wrote: Yes, I'm quite proud of my business accomplishments over the last 28 years. So your proud of selling manure for the last 28 years n the landscaping business. Guess that makes you the king "turd merchant"... LOL www.telstar-electronics.com |
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