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Telstar Electronics September 2nd 06 05:53 PM

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Just got back from vacation and are looking forward to trying the new
prototype SkyWave 2879ABTC...

http://www.telstar-electronics.com/img_0003.jpg


jim September 2nd 06 06:19 PM

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Telstar Electronics wrote:
Just got back from vacation and are looking forward to trying the new
prototype SkyWave 2879ABTC...

http://www.telstar-electronics.com/img_0003.jpg

And what frequencies will you be xmitting on?

DrDeath September 2nd 06 06:56 PM

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"jim" wrote in message
...
Telstar Electronics wrote:
Just got back from vacation and are looking forward to trying the new
prototype SkyWave 2879ABTC...

http://www.telstar-electronics.com/img_0003.jpg

And what frequencies will you be xmitting on?


Well he has no ham ticket, his amp is of a broadband design, so I'm guessing
11 meters.
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Telstar Electronics September 2nd 06 10:27 PM

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DrDeath wrote:
Well he has no ham ticket, his amp is of a broadband design, so I'm guessing
11 meters.


Well... the testing will be conducted in a wide frequency range in
order to characterize performance.

www.telstar-electronics.com


Slow Code September 3rd 06 01:13 AM

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"Telstar Electronics" wrote in
ups.com:


DrDeath wrote:
Well he has no ham ticket, his amp is of a broadband design, so I'm
guessing 11 meters.


Well... the testing will be conducted in a wide frequency range in
order to characterize performance.



Good Luck with it. I'm sure Dr Death and the rest of the good-buddy crowd
hopes it's Smoke-proof. ROFL

Sc

jim September 3rd 06 02:00 AM

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Telstar Electronics wrote:
DrDeath wrote:

Well he has no ham ticket, his amp is of a broadband design, so I'm guessing
11 meters.



Well... the testing will be conducted in a wide frequency range in
order to characterize performance.

www.telstar-electronics.com

And what freq's is it designed for? Dont be obtuse. If its for the cb
freq's then say so otherwise why post it here? I dont see a xpost to the
amateur ng's.

[email protected] September 3rd 06 02:19 AM

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And what freq's is it designed for? Dont be obtuse. If its for the cb
freq's then say so otherwise why post it here? I dont see a xpost to the
amateur ng's.


So there are no amateurs on the CB newsgroup? Could of fooled me.

jim September 3rd 06 02:26 AM

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wrote:

And what freq's is it designed for? Dont be obtuse. If its for the cb
freq's then say so otherwise why post it here? I dont see a xpost to the
amateur ng's.



So there are no amateurs on the CB newsgroup? Could of fooled me.

other than a couple of decent sorts the rest can suck canal water.

Telstar Electronics September 3rd 06 05:07 PM

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Slow Code wrote:
Good Luck with it. I'm sure Dr Death and the rest of the good-buddy crowd
hopes it's Smoke-proof. ROFL

Sc


OK, thanks SC. I should know in a day or two whether it works as good
as the original hay-wired proto I built and tested...

Remember to check out Telstar's current auctions if you get the chance
at:



Peter September 6th 06 05:25 AM

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wrote...

So there are no amateurs on the CB newsgroup?


This is not an Amateur newsgroup. Those who come here are either
here to discuss CB, spam the group or Troll.

I come to this group for CB messages. If I wanted Amateur or professional
topics, I would look in the associated groups.
Of all the groups I use, this is the worst for off-topic posts, Trolls and hate
messages. The amount of crap is making this group unusable.


Could of fooled me.


I must resist the temptation to answer that one ;~)


Regards,

Peter.
http://www.citizensband.radiouk.com/




DrDeath September 6th 06 05:42 AM

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"Peter" wrote in message
news:44fe529c.0@entanet...
wrote...

So there are no amateurs on the CB newsgroup?


This is not an Amateur newsgroup. Those who come here are either
here to discuss CB, spam the group or Troll.

I come to this group for CB messages. If I wanted Amateur or professional
topics, I would look in the associated groups.
Of all the groups I use, this is the worst for off-topic posts, Trolls and
hate
messages. The amount of crap is making this group unusable.


Could of fooled me.


I must resist the temptation to answer that one ;~)


Regards,

Peter.
http://www.citizensband.radiouk.com/



I would like to see more technically related issues, even when posting about
ham radio. Unfortunately I have to agree, the NG is a trash pit. I'll be the
first to admit, I'm not helping matters any by replying to and even
instigating my fair share.

Now watch the kOOk/trolls attack my post.
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Indulge, my every need.
UV Count 1
Religion is a whore! (Slayer)
Stupid is as stupid does.
ALL HAIL BOOKMAN!!!



Telstar Electronics September 6th 06 01:10 PM

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DrDeath wrote:
I'll be the
first to admit, I'm not helping matters any by replying to and even
instigating my fair share.


Then why do you keep doing it? Your logic escapes me here...

www.telstar-electronics.com


Mopey-Dopey-Steveo September 6th 06 04:04 PM

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Telstar Electronics wrote:
DrDeath wrote:
I'll be the
first to admit, I'm not helping matters any by replying to and even
instigating my fair share.


Then why do you keep doing it? Your logic escapes me here...



Perhaps because DD is an idiot?



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DrDeath September 6th 06 06:08 PM

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"Telstar Electronics" wrote in message
ups.com...

DrDeath wrote:
I'll be the
first to admit, I'm not helping matters any by replying to and even
instigating my fair share.


Then why do you keep doing it? Your logic escapes me here...



And YOUR not willing to share any blame??? Your a hypocrite, many times I
have tried to have serious technical discussions, and YOU always kOOk out on
me when I make valid statements or offer cheap methods of improving your
amp. Seems to me that every time the tech talk gets heavy, you start getting
defensive. Where's YOUR logic Brian?

--
Owner of Daryl Hunt
Suffer, unto me.
Indulge, my every need.
UV Count 1
Religion is a whore! (Slayer)
Stupid is as stupid does.
ALL HAIL BOOKMAN!!!



Telstar Electronics September 6th 06 06:56 PM

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DrDeath wrote:
And YOUR not willing to share any blame??? Your a hypocrite, many times I
have tried to have serious technical discussions, and YOU always kOOk out on
me when I make valid statements or offer cheap methods of improving your
amp. Seems to me that every time the tech talk gets heavy, you start getting
defensive. Where's YOUR logic Brian?


You see... that's the difference between me and you.
You have all this time to argue... I don't.

www.telstar-electronics.com


U-Know-Who September 7th 06 12:19 AM

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"Telstar Electronics" wrote in message
ps.com...
DrDeath wrote:
And YOUR not willing to share any blame??? Your a hypocrite, many times I
have tried to have serious technical discussions, and YOU always kOOk out
on
me when I make valid statements or offer cheap methods of improving your
amp. Seems to me that every time the tech talk gets heavy, you start
getting
defensive. Where's YOUR logic Brian?


You see... that's the difference between me and you.
You have all this time to argue... I don't.


Hopefully you are using the time you do have to understand basic antenna
theory.



Slow Code September 7th 06 12:43 AM

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"Telstar Electronics" wrote in
ups.com:


DrDeath wrote:
I'll be the
first to admit, I'm not helping matters any by replying to and even
instigating my fair share.


Then why do you keep doing it? Your logic escapes me here...




For the same reason that he likes to fart loud in a crowded elevator.

Attention.


Sc


Telstar Electronics September 7th 06 01:22 AM

New SkyWave almost ready to fire up...
 
Fired up the new SkyWave 2879ABTC with the temperature compensated bias
tonight. It worked like a million bucks. I adjusted (using the
available final-tweak resistor pads. You might see it sticking up in
the air in the picture) the AB bias current for 500mA at room
temperature. I transmitted and ran the sink up to 80 degrees C and the
bias was 530mA. I ran out of time and was unable to test it cold... but
I believe the circuit will work as the first proto. Here's a picture of
the amp on the bench in testing.

http://www.telstar-electronics.com/img_0001.jpg


DrDeath September 7th 06 02:57 AM

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"Telstar Electronics" wrote in message
ps.com...
DrDeath wrote:
And YOUR not willing to share any blame??? Your a hypocrite, many times I
have tried to have serious technical discussions, and YOU always kOOk out
on
me when I make valid statements or offer cheap methods of improving your
amp. Seems to me that every time the tech talk gets heavy, you start
getting
defensive. Where's YOUR logic Brian?


You see... that's the difference between me and you.
You have all this time to argue... I don't.



You still don't get it do you? We started this off in a technical forum and
anytime I post something that challenges your electronics ability (or lack
of), you start a flame war.

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Owner of Daryl Hunt
Master of Slow Code
Suffer, unto me.
Indulge, my every need.
UV Count 1
Religion is a whore! (Slayer)
Stupid is as stupid does.
ALL HAIL BOOKMAN!!!



Jan Panteltje September 7th 06 11:11 AM

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On a sunny day (6 Sep 2006 10:56:01 -0700) it happened "Telstar Electronics"
wrote in
om:

DrDeath wrote:
And YOUR not willing to share any blame??? Your a hypocrite, many times I
have tried to have serious technical discussions, and YOU always kOOk out on
me when I make valid statements or offer cheap methods of improving your
amp. Seems to me that every time the tech talk gets heavy, you start getting
defensive. Where's YOUR logic Brian?


You see... that's the difference between me and you.
You have all this time to argue... I don't.


And neither had the time to study electronics?
You indeed always cop out at solutions that are presented to you in such
a clean way you could just implement these, make a better product, get rich
from it, and then have the time you do not now have.
Hell do you only post here for advertising? Then prepend subject with ADD:
Osama


Jan Panteltje September 7th 06 11:14 AM

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On a sunny day (6 Sep 2006 17:22:13 -0700) it happened "Telstar Electronics"
wrote in
. com:

Here's a picture of
the amp on the bench in testing.

http://www.telstar-electronics.com/img_0001.jpg


Got so hot the coffee evaporated hey.

Telstar Electronics September 7th 06 12:41 PM

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Jan Panteltje wrote:
And neither had the time to study electronics?
You indeed always cop out at solutions that are presented to you in such
a clean way you could just implement these, make a better product, get rich
from it, and then have the time you do not now have.
Hell do you only post here for advertising? Then prepend subject with ADD:


Hmmm... Jan must have had a bad day... most out of character for him.
Hey, I've got an idea... why don't you just design your own amp...
instead of insisting on changes for mine. Then you could get rich and
put me out of business.

www.telstar-electronics.com


Jan Panteltje September 7th 06 02:08 PM

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On a sunny day (7 Sep 2006 04:41:51 -0700) it happened "Telstar Electronics"
wrote in
. com:

Jan Panteltje wrote:
And neither had the time to study electronics?
You indeed always cop out at solutions that are presented to you in such
a clean way you could just implement these, make a better product, get rich
from it, and then have the time you do not now have.
Hell do you only post here for advertising? Then prepend subject with ADD:


Hmmm... Jan must have had a bad day... most out of character for him.
Hey, I've got an idea... why don't you just design your own amp...
instead of insisting on changes for mine. Then you could get rich and
put me out of business.

www.telstar-electronics.com



Yea, right, bit different style, well I did design my own 1/2 kW, it
did its purpose....
But to put you _out_ of business your would fist have to be _in_ business.
So fix it up a bit, nice LCD display, some buttons, microprocessor, selftest,
real cooling with an internal fan -nobody wants such a big block of alu-,
add ice and coffee buuton, the works.
LOL


Telstar Electronics September 7th 06 02:24 PM

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Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (7 Sep 2006 04:41:51 -0700) it happened "Telstar Electronics"
Yea, right, bit different style, well I did design my own 1/2 kW, it
did its purpose....
But to put you _out_ of business your would fist have to be _in_ business.
So fix it up a bit, nice LCD display, some buttons, microprocessor, selftest,
real cooling with an internal fan -nobody wants such a big block of alu-,
add ice and coffee buuton, the works.


Wow... you've really turned into Mr. Hyde... sorry it had to come to
that.
I assure you that I'm very much in business... and still waiting to see
your cost-effective design.

www.telstar-electronics.com


Jan Panteltje September 7th 06 02:47 PM

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On a sunny day (7 Sep 2006 06:24:28 -0700) it happened "Telstar Electronics"
wrote in
. com:

Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (7 Sep 2006 04:41:51 -0700) it happened "Telstar Electronics"
Yea, right, bit different style, well I did design my own 1/2 kW, it
did its purpose....
But to put you _out_ of business your would fist have to be _in_ business.
So fix it up a bit, nice LCD display, some buttons, microprocessor, selftest,
real cooling with an internal fan -nobody wants such a big block of alu-,
add ice and coffee buuton, the works.


Wow... you've really turned into Mr. Hyde... sorry it had to come to
that.
I assure you that I'm very much in business... and still waiting to see
your cost-effective design.

www.telstar-electronics.com


Mr Hyde? what are you blabbering about?
You had suggestions, many, by several people, including me, you did nothing
with it, now you want us to do a complete cost effective design for you?
And -cost effective_ is not worth beans, 'he who saves on parts will not reach
moon' (old Chinese saying hehe).
Why not sell it as a tea warmer or coffee cup warmer?

And, on the bright side (for you) there are people who eat cost-effective at
Mc Donalds, there are also people who fly to Paris for a good meal
(not in McD there).

No you had your help.




Telstar Electronics September 7th 06 06:31 PM

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wrote:
Fired up the new SkyWave 2879ABTC with the temperature compensated bias
tonight. It worked like a million bucks. I adjusted (using the
available final-tweak resistor pads. You might see it sticking up in
the air in the picture) the AB bias current for 500mA at room
temperature. I transmitted and ran the sink up to 80 degrees C and the
bias was 530mA. I ran out of time and was unable to test it cold... but
I believe the circuit will work as the first proto. Here's a picture of
the amp on the bench in testing.

http://www.telstar-electronics.com/img_0001.jpg
interesting to hear

anything on it preforomance on 10 or 12 meter Ham band?


Not as of yet... just got fired last night. Expect the performance to
be equal or better than the existing SkyWave 2879AB amp. The specs are
available at http://www.telstar-electronics.com/SkyWave%202879AB.pdf
I have much more testing to do before this product is released sometime
in late October.

www.telstar-electronics.com


Slow Code September 8th 06 12:50 AM

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"Telstar Electronics" wrote in
oups.com:

wrote:
Fired up the new SkyWave 2879ABTC with the temperature compensated
bias tonight. It worked like a million bucks. I adjusted (using the
available final-tweak resistor pads. You might see it sticking up in
the air in the picture) the AB bias current for 500mA at room
temperature. I transmitted and ran the sink up to 80 degrees C and the
bias was 530mA. I ran out of time and was unable to test it cold...
but I believe the circuit will work as the first proto. Here's a
picture of the amp on the bench in testing.

http://www.telstar-electronics.com/img_0001.jpg
interesting to hear

anything on it preforomance on 10 or 12 meter Ham band?


Not as of yet... just got fired last night. Expect the performance to
be equal or better than the existing SkyWave 2879AB amp. The specs are
available at http://www.telstar-electronics.com/SkyWave%202879AB.pdf
I have much more testing to do before this product is released sometime
in late October.



You can ignore Markies request for information on how it works on the ham
bands, Markie is to Lazy to ever get HF priviledges.

SC

Slow Code September 8th 06 12:50 AM

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"Telstar Electronics" wrote in
ups.com:

Fired up the new SkyWave 2879ABTC with the temperature compensated bias
tonight. It worked like a million bucks. I adjusted (using the
available final-tweak resistor pads. You might see it sticking up in
the air in the picture) the AB bias current for 500mA at room
temperature. I transmitted and ran the sink up to 80 degrees C and the
bias was 530mA. I ran out of time and was unable to test it cold... but
I believe the circuit will work as the first proto. Here's a picture of
the amp on the bench in testing.

http://www.telstar-electronics.com/img_0001.jpg




I've seen the insides of a lot of low cost amps and the construction on that
one looks nicer than most.

SC

Slow Code September 8th 06 12:50 AM

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wrote in :

On 6 Sep 2006 17:22:13 -0700, "Telstar Electronics"
wrote:

Fired up the new SkyWave 2879ABTC with the temperature compensated bias
tonight. It worked like a million bucks. I adjusted (using the
available final-tweak resistor pads. You might see it sticking up in
the air in the picture) the AB bias current for 500mA at room
temperature. I transmitted and ran the sink up to 80 degrees C and the
bias was 530mA. I ran out of time and was unable to test it cold... but
I believe the circuit will work as the first proto. Here's a picture of
the amp on the bench in testing.

http://www.telstar-electronics.com/img_0001.jpg
interesting to hear

anything on it preforomance on 10 or 12 meter Ham band?




Yah, Right Markie, like your dumb ass has priviledges for the HF
ham bands. Not!

Learn CW!!


Telstar Electronics September 8th 06 12:47 PM

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Slow Code wrote:
I've seen the insides of a lot of low cost amps and the construction on that
one looks nicer than most.


Yep, only premium quality components go into my products... and nobody
else producing amplifiers in this arena has temperature compensated
biasing and multiplexed keying capabilities.

www.telstar-electonics.com


[email protected] September 8th 06 01:17 PM

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wrote:
On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 23:50:26 GMT, Slow Code wrote:

"Telstar Electronics" wrote in
roups.com:


You can ignore Markies request for information on how it works on the ham
bands, Markie is to Lazy to ever get HF priviledges.

that is coming SC as son as the FCC does as the FCC has stated it
intends to do elimanate code testing for HF


Marky lies again!


Jan Panteltje September 8th 06 02:04 PM

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On a sunny day (8 Sep 2006 04:47:08 -0700) it happened "Telstar Electronics"
wrote in
.com:

Slow Code wrote:
I've seen the insides of a lot of low cost amps and the construction on that
one looks nicer than most.


Yep, only premium quality components go into my products... and nobody
else producing amplifiers in this arena has temperature compensated
biasing and multiplexed keying capabilities.

www.telstar-electonics.com


But does it have a max temp cutout?

Telstar Electronics September 8th 06 03:08 PM

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Jan Panteltje wrote:
But does it have a max temp cutout?


No, but thermal and excessive SWR protection are slated for future
versions.

www.telstar-electronics.com


Jan Panteltje September 8th 06 04:06 PM

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On a sunny day (8 Sep 2006 07:08:53 -0700) it happened "Telstar Electronics"
wrote in
. com:

Jan Panteltje wrote:
But does it have a max temp cutout?


No, but thermal and excessive SWR protection are slated for future
versions.


Good, I am happy to hear that, even the most simple thing you can buy here has
these thermal fuses, all AC/DC adapters, any coffee machine, heater, almost
anything.

I dunno any of your design parameters, but say if your heat sink is 1.5 degrees
Celsius per Watt, your transistors .5, and you run 80 W dissipation,
the junction temp would be 160 above environment.
If somebody has it in a car with sun on the roof, chances are you cook the
'pils'.
Even a 60 cent one time thermal fuse... so much nicer to replace then
2 transistors.
So I am looking forward to seeing such a feature.

SWR is of course good to have too, my old antenna did behave bad in storms,
the new one is OK, but I still have an audible alarm and red LED on the SWR
meter :-).
Automatic would be better.


Telstar Electronics September 8th 06 06:51 PM

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Jan Panteltje wrote:
Even a 60 cent one time thermal fuse... so much nicer to replace then
2 transistors.


I hear what you're saying... but my future design will only include
thermal protection that will restore operation, once the excessive heat
event has passed.

www.telstar-electronics.com


Steveo September 9th 06 03:17 AM

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"Telstar Electronics" wrote:
Slow Code wrote:
I've seen the insides of a lot of low cost amps and the construction on
that one looks nicer than most.


Yep, only premium quality components go into my products.

It's funny when two assholes agree in public, ain't it?

Telstar Electronics September 9th 06 02:28 PM

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Steveo wrote:
It's funny when two assholes agree in public, ain't it?


Yes... just like Steve Parks and DrCoward

www.telstar-electronics.com


Steveo September 9th 06 03:08 PM

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"Telstar Electronics" wrote:
Steveo wrote:
It's funny when two assholes agree in public, ain't it?


Yes... just like Steve Parks and DrCoward

www.dildo.com

See how fast you changed your mind, Brian? You were asking about my well
being less than 24 hours ago. Welcome aboard anyway and be sure to check
out my sig.

--
Telstar Electronics ----------randomly assembled basement trash

Telstar Electronics September 9th 06 04:39 PM

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Steveo wrote:
Telstar Electronics ----------randomly assembled basement trash


Yes, I approve of your new signature... It gives my site additional
exposure as people go there to check your claim. Thanks.

www.telstar-electronics.com


Slow Code September 9th 06 11:19 PM

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Steveo wrote in
:

"Telstar Electronics" wrote:
Slow Code wrote:
I've seen the insides of a lot of low cost amps and the construction
on that one looks nicer than most.


Yep, only premium quality components go into my products.

It's funny when two assholes agree in public, ain't it?



Yah, that's why we're always laughing at you, Dr. Death, Landshark, Jim,
and Jay in the desert.

Sc


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