Wilson 1000 Antenna Question
 

I want to connect a mobile CB radio to a power supply in the garage.

My question: Is it possible to use my Wilson 1000 as a type of "base

station" antenna or will I have to purchase an antenna designed just

for base station use?

Any tips and info will be greatly appreciated.

Wilson 1000 Antenna Question
 

"Drifter" wrote in message
...
I want to connect a mobile CB radio to a power supply in the garage.

My question: Is it possible to use my Wilson 1000 as a type of "base

station" antenna or will I have to purchase an antenna designed just

for base station use?

Any tips and info will be greatly appreciated.



You could, but it would require a ground plane so large and cumbersome that
it would not be easy to remove the antenna to use it mobile again. You will
also get better performance from a base antenna.

Wilson 1000 Antenna Question
 

Drifter wrote:
I want to connect a mobile CB radio to a power supply in the garage.

My question: Is it possible to use my Wilson 1000 as a type of "base

station" antenna or will I have to purchase an antenna designed just

for base station use?

Any tips and info will be greatly appreciated.

Do you have room for a real ground plane antenna on your garage?

Wilson 1000 Antenna Question
 

Drifter wrote:
I want to connect a mobile CB radio to a power supply in the garage.

My question: Is it possible to use my Wilson 1000 as a type of "base

station" antenna or will I have to purchase an antenna designed just

for base station use?

Any tips and info will be greatly appreciated.



You can use a Wilson 1000 as a base antenna IF you put a car sized
ground plane under it, although four 8.6 foot radials would work
as well. A full size antenna will gather more signal.

Wilson 1000 Antenna Question
 

Hello Drifter:

Yeah what they said!

I had a local who placed the magnetic mount Wilson 1000 on his Swap
Cooler, that of course had a lot of metal for a ground plane. He had to
add on a coax extension, and ran barefoot. But was able to converse with
all the locals, and make the coffee shop get 2 gethers on time. It surly
isn't a skip shootin antenna.

One nut cake ran a Wilson 1000 on his refregrator, and a Palmar Skipper
300 Linear. This was a TVI and all kinds of Interference looking for a
place to happen. He lived in a apartment house, and was soon evicted.
Probably for not listening to Jay in the Mojave! (Oh Brother!)

Jay in the Mojave

Scott in Baltimore wrote:

Drifter wrote:

I want to connect a mobile CB radio to a power supply in the garage.

My question: Is it possible to use my Wilson 1000 as a type of "base

station" antenna or will I have to purchase an antenna designed just

for base station use?

Any tips and info will be greatly appreciated.



You can use a Wilson 1000 as a base antenna IF you put a car sized
ground plane under it, although four 8.6 foot radials would work
as well. A full size antenna will gather more signal.

Slow Code:kook on parade
 

Slow Code wrote:

Slow Code:kook on parade

Wilson 1000 Antenna Question
 

If you have a freezer or washer in your garage just slap the wilson 1000 on
top of it and it should work pretty good but not as good as a proper base
antena up in the air.

Scorpio


"Drifter" wrote in message
...
I want to connect a mobile CB radio to a power supply in the garage.

My question: Is it possible to use my Wilson 1000 as a type of "base

station" antenna or will I have to purchase an antenna designed just

for base station use?

Any tips and info will be greatly appreciated.

Wilson 1000 Antenna Question
 

"Drifter" wrote in message
...
I want to connect a mobile CB radio to a power supply in the garage.

My question: Is it possible to use my Wilson 1000 as a type of "base

station" antenna or will I have to purchase an antenna designed just

for base station use?

Any tips and info will be greatly appreciated.


Does your garage have a metal roof? If so, plop it down on top of the
garage, and run a wire from the roof of the garage down to a grounding rod
in the yard, or a METAL cold water pipe in the garage/house (as long as it's
metal all the way out to the yard!) Any point that is grounded would work,
though I'd avoid using the ground in an outlet; you really don't want it
hooked into the household wiring, even despite the fact that a lot places
use the cold water pipes for ground... The antenna will perform, but not
nearly as well as a proper base antenna...

Wilson 1000 Antenna Question
 

"PowerHouse Communications" wrote in message
...

"Drifter" wrote in message
...
I want to connect a mobile CB radio to a power supply in the garage.

My question: Is it possible to use my Wilson 1000 as a type of "base

station" antenna or will I have to purchase an antenna designed just

for base station use?

Any tips and info will be greatly appreciated.


Does your garage have a metal roof? If so, plop it down on top of the
garage, and run a wire from the roof of the garage down to a grounding rod
in the yard, or a METAL cold water pipe in the garage/house (as long as
it's
metal all the way out to the yard!) Any point that is grounded would
work,
though I'd avoid using the ground in an outlet; you really don't want it
hooked into the household wiring, even despite the fact that a lot places
use the cold water pipes for ground... The antenna will perform, but not
nearly as well as a proper base antenna...


NECA code says that if you can't use a ground rod, you can use the copper
water pipe where it enters the house from the outside. I believe it must be
attached within the first 3 feet, but that could vary from city to city.

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Indulge, my every need.
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Wilson 1000 Antenna Question
 

Slow Code wrote:
Drifter wrote in
:

I want to connect a mobile CB radio to a power supply in the garage.

My question: Is it possible to use my Wilson 1000 as a type of "base

station" antenna



Yes you can, but only a dumb-ass would want to listen to CB.


Sc

Hey is that a Wilson 1000?

Thats no Wilson 1000! Thats my wife!

Wilson 1000 Antenna Question
 

Drifter wrote:
I want to connect a mobile CB radio to a power supply in the garage.

My question: Is it possible to use my Wilson 1000 as a type of "base

station" antenna or will I have to purchase an antenna designed just

for base station use?

Any tips and info will be greatly appreciated.

You certainly can do this... but you will need a ground plane for the
antenna radiator to work against. This could be something as simple as
perhaps a 3'x3' piece of sheetmetal underneath the antenna. If you have
a magnet mount... you can just plunk the antenna on. If you have have a
trunk lip mount, you'll have to connect the lip mount to the sheetmetal
via braid. Remember to keep the antenna near the center of the metal
mass for best omni-directional results. Hope that helps...

www.telstar-electronics.com

Wilson 1000 Antenna Question
 

"Telstar Electronics" wrote in message
oups.com...
Drifter wrote:
I want to connect a mobile CB radio to a power supply in the garage.

My question: Is it possible to use my Wilson 1000 as a type of "base

station" antenna or will I have to purchase an antenna designed just

for base station use?

Any tips and info will be greatly appreciated.

You certainly can do this... but you will need a ground plane for the
antenna radiator to work against. This could be something as simple as
perhaps a 3'x3' piece of sheetmetal underneath the antenna. If you have
a magnet mount... you can just plunk the antenna on. If you have have a
trunk lip mount, you'll have to connect the lip mount to the sheetmetal
via braid. Remember to keep the antenna near the center of the metal
mass for best omni-directional results. Hope that helps...


3' X 3', huh Brian? At 27Mhz? Is this some sort of magic sheetmetal with
superior RF characteristics you've patented? Glad to see you are not
building antennas.

Wilson 1000 Antenna Question
 

U-Know-Who wrote:
3' X 3', huh Brian? At 27Mhz? Is this some sort of magic sheetmetal with
superior RF characteristics you've patented? Glad to see you are not
building antennas.

That size piece of metal should work just fine... how big do you think
the roof of your car is where it normally sits... not much bigger.

www.telstar-electronics.com

Wilson 1000 Antenna Question
 

"Telstar Electronics" wrote in message
oups.com...
U-Know-Who wrote:
3' X 3', huh Brian? At 27Mhz? Is this some sort of magic sheetmetal with
superior RF characteristics you've patented? Glad to see you are not
building antennas.

That size piece of metal should work just fine... how big do you think
the roof of your car is where it normally sits... not much bigger.


Actually, the entire car is used as a ground plane. Why do you think 1/4
wave ground planes have 9' radials? Just to make them look cool? By your
theory, they could get by with 3' radials.

Suggested reading for Brian:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...antenna+theory

Just a start, not intended to all inclusive. You should probably stick to
trying to improve the Skywave until you understand BASIC antenna theory. At
this point, you don't have a clue. Build an antenna and do some
experimenting before you give bad advice.

Wilson 1000 Antenna Question
 

"Jay in the Mojave" wrote...

This was a TVI and all kinds of Interference looking for a place to happen.

Interference can be a real pain...
http://www.load-of.cobblers.org/news/rfi.php


:~)

Peter.
http://www.citizensband.radiouk.com/

Wilson 1000 Antenna Question
 

"Scott in Baltimore" wrote...

You can use a Wilson 1000 as a base antenna IF you put a car sized
ground plane under it,

Not a problem.
It is possible to carefully position your car so that you can stick the
magmount on the trunk...
http://www.load-of.cobblers.org/rrcb/images/carwall.jpg



:~)

Peter.
http://www.citizensband.radiouk.com/

Wilson 1000 Antenna Question
 

"Drifter" wrote...
I want to connect a mobile CB radio to a power supply in the garage.

My question: Is it possible to use my Wilson 1000 as a type of "base
station" antenna or will I have to purchase an antenna designed just
for base station use?

Any tips and info will be greatly appreciated.


A base type is better, as it will get greater distances, but any CB antenna
can be used as a base antenna.

If you use a mobile type, it must be placed on a ground plane. This
ground plane could be solid metal, but could be a few metal rods
or stretched out wire.
More radials is better, and thicker wire would be better than thin.

If you make a ground plane with a stud mount in the middle, a mobile
antenna could be swapped between the car and base mounts - but
remember not to leave it out there when not in use - they are easily
removed by a passing scumbag.

It is also possible to make your own antenna from wire. A dipole
makes a reasonable antenna at a very low cost, and is easily mounted
or hung from something.


Regards,

Peter.
http://www.citizensband.radiouk.com/

Wilson 1000 Antenna Question
 

"Telstar Electronics" wrote in message
oups.com...
U-Know-Who wrote:
3' X 3', huh Brian? At 27Mhz? Is this some sort of magic sheetmetal with
superior RF characteristics you've patented? Glad to see you are not
building antennas.

That size piece of metal should work just fine... how big do you think
the roof of your car is where it normally sits... not much bigger.


Won't work properly.
Here are some links that will aid you in learning about building antennas.
http://www.sgcworld.com/radialstechnote.html
http://members.tripod.com/~cb_antennas/index.shtml
http://www.softcom.net/users/kd6dks/quad.html
http://home.att.net/~wizardoz/cbmw/a...i.html#groundp

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Wilson 1000 Antenna Question
 

"Peter" wrote in message
news:44fe529b.0@entanet...
"Drifter" wrote...
I want to connect a mobile CB radio to a power supply in the garage.

My question: Is it possible to use my Wilson 1000 as a type of "base
station" antenna or will I have to purchase an antenna designed just
for base station use?

Any tips and info will be greatly appreciated.


A base type is better, as it will get greater distances, but any CB
antenna
can be used as a base antenna.

If you use a mobile type, it must be placed on a ground plane. This
ground plane could be solid metal, but could be a few metal rods
or stretched out wire.
More radials is better, and thicker wire would be better than thin.

If you make a ground plane with a stud mount in the middle, a mobile
antenna could be swapped between the car and base mounts - but
remember not to leave it out there when not in use - they are easily
removed by a passing scumbag.

It is also possible to make your own antenna from wire. A dipole
makes a reasonable antenna at a very low cost, and is easily mounted
or hung from something.


Regards,

Peter.
http://www.citizensband.radiouk.com/


Make sure you use some grease if you want to swap it back and forth as the
threads could get rusted. I have a 102" whip that I am trying to reuse with
the same problem. It's soaking in liquid wrench at the moment.
--
Suffer, unto me.
Indulge, my every need.
UV Count 1
Religion is a whore! (Slayer)
Stupid is as stupid does.
ALL HAIL BOOKMAN!!!

Wilson 1000 Antenna Question
 

On 5 Sep 2006 16:26:53 -0700, "Telstar Electronics"
wrote in
.com:

U-Know-Who wrote:
3' X 3', huh Brian? At 27Mhz? Is this some sort of magic sheetmetal with
superior RF characteristics you've patented? Glad to see you are not
building antennas.

That size piece of metal should work just fine... how big do you think
the roof of your car is where it normally sits... not much bigger.


Three feet square? What do -you- drive..... a hot-dog cart?

Wilson 1000 Antenna Question
 

"Peter" wrote:
"Scott in Baltimore" wrote...

You can use a Wilson 1000 as a base antenna IF you put a car sized
ground plane under it,

Not a problem.
It is possible to carefully position your car so that you can stick the
magmount on the trunk...
http://www.load-of.cobblers.org/rrcb/images/carwall.jpg

Hehe, wouldn't that be somewhat directional?

Wilson 1000 Antenna Question
 

U-Know-Who wrote:
Actually, the entire car is used as a ground plane. Why do you think 1/4
wave ground planes have 9' radials? Just to make them look cool? By your
theory, they could get by with 3' radials.

I've got news for you... the radials you speak of... and a solid 3'X3'
sheet of metal are two different animals. The surface area and shape of
the two is vastly different... or haven't you noticed that... LOL

www.telstar-electronics.com

Wilson 1000 Antenna Question
 

"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
...
On 5 Sep 2006 16:26:53 -0700, "Telstar Electronics"
wrote in
.com:

U-Know-Who wrote:
3' X 3', huh Brian? At 27Mhz? Is this some sort of magic sheetmetal with
superior RF characteristics you've patented? Glad to see you are not
building antennas.

That size piece of metal should work just fine... how big do you think
the roof of your car is where it normally sits... not much bigger.


Three feet square? What do -you- drive..... a hot-dog cart?


LOL!!! Geo Metro?

Wilson 1000 Antenna Question
 

Landshark wrote:
Three feet square? What do -you- drive..... a hot-dog cart?

LOL!!! Geo Metro?

3X'3' is nine square feet... check your math... LOL

www.telstar-electronics.com

Wilson 1000 Antenna Question
 

In rec.radio.cb , "Telstar Electronics"
said..., ups.com:

Landshark wrote:
Three feet square? What do -you- drive..... a hot-dog cart?

LOL!!! Geo Metro?

3X'3' is nine square feet... check your math... LOL


Maybe, but will a cb radio take kindly to 'your' math?

27 sq. ft. 'might' be a slight improvement.........

Wilson 1000 Antenna Question
 

Ray Norshine wrote:
In rec.radio.cb , "Telstar Electronics"
said..., ups.com:

Landshark wrote:
Three feet square? What do -you- drive..... a hot-dog cart?

LOL!!! Geo Metro?

3X'3' is nine square feet... check your math... LOL

Maybe, but will a cb radio take kindly to 'your' math?

27 sq. ft. 'might' be a slight improvement.........

That's a really BIG stretch metro!

Wilson 1000 Antenna Question
 

"Telstar Electronics" wrote in message
ups.com...
Landshark wrote:
Three feet square? What do -you- drive..... a hot-dog cart?

LOL!!! Geo Metro?

3X'3' is nine square feet... check your math... LOL

www.telstar-electronics.com


You do not measure a counterpoise in square feet.

Wilson 1000 Antenna Question
 

"Telstar Electronics" wrote in
ups.com:

U-Know-Who wrote:
Actually, the entire car is used as a ground plane. Why do you think
1/4 wave ground planes have 9' radials? Just to make them look cool? By
your theory, they could get by with 3' radials.

I've got news for you... the radials you speak of... and a solid 3'X3'
sheet of metal are two different animals. The surface area and shape of
the two is vastly different... or haven't you noticed that... LOL

www.telstar-electronics.com



Go easy on him Telstar, he's just a simple CB'er. What does he know.

SC

Wilson 1000 Antenna Question, ---- ROFL, Too good not to share with RRAP.
 

Ray Norshine wrote in :

In rec.radio.cb , "Telstar Electronics"
said..., ups.com:

Landshark wrote:
Three feet square? What do -you- drive..... a hot-dog cart?

LOL!!! Geo Metro?

3X'3' is nine square feet... check your math... LOL


Maybe, but will a cb radio take kindly to 'your' math?

27 sq. ft. 'might' be a slight improvement.........



"Breaker, breaker, breaker, any one know Three times Three?, Kick-it
on back to Norshine the Tard, come-on breakaaa, breakaaaaaaa."


Hey Telstar, Maybe you need to draw Norshine a picture.

SC

Wilson 1000 Antenna Question
 

"Slow Code" wrote in message
nk.net...
"Telstar Electronics" wrote in
ups.com:

U-Know-Who wrote:
Actually, the entire car is used as a ground plane. Why do you think
1/4 wave ground planes have 9' radials? Just to make them look cool? By
your theory, they could get by with 3' radials.

I've got news for you... the radials you speak of... and a solid 3'X3'
sheet of metal are two different animals. The surface area and shape of
the two is vastly different... or haven't you noticed that... LOL

www.telstar-electronics.com



Go easy on him Telstar, he's just a simple CB'er. What does he know.


Now I get it. I always wondered who those "Slow Children Playing" belonged
to. They are yours, right SC?

Wilson 1000 Antenna Question
 

Slow Code wrote:
Drifter wrote in
:

I want to connect a mobile CB radio to a power supply in the garage.

My question: Is it possible to use my Wilson 1000 as a type of "base

station" antenna

Sure...but only if you leave it mounted ON THE CAR and stretch the
cheapest quality RadioShack RG-58 cable to it over the longest distance
possible.

Steve

Wilson 1000 Antenna Question
 

"K4YZ" wrote:
Slow Code wrote:
Drifter wrote in
:

I want to connect a mobile CB radio to a power supply in the garage.

My question: Is it possible to use my Wilson 1000 as a type of "base

station" antenna

Sure...but only if you leave it mounted ON THE CAR and stretch the
cheapest quality RadioShack RG-58 cable to it over the longest distance
possible.

Steve

Do you have to wear a jump suit borrowed from goodwill too?

Wilson 1000 Antenna Question
 

"Telstar Electronics" wrote in message
ups.com...
Landshark wrote:
Three feet square? What do -you- drive..... a hot-dog cart?

LOL!!! Geo Metro?

3X'3' is nine square feet... check your math... LOL

www.telstar-electronics.com


Thanks Brian, I'll remember that when getting new carpet for the house...LOL!!!

Guarantee that a Geo Metro is more than 9' Sqr of metal.

Wilson 1000 Antenna Question
 

In rec.radio.cb , Steveo said...,
:

Ray Norshine wrote:
In rec.radio.cb , "Telstar Electronics"
said..., ups.com:

Landshark wrote:
Three feet square? What do -you- drive..... a hot-dog cart?

LOL!!! Geo Metro?

3X'3' is nine square feet... check your math... LOL

Maybe, but will a cb radio take kindly to 'your' math?

27 sq. ft. 'might' be a slight improvement.........

That's a really BIG stretch metro!


Put on some (big ass'd) 8' curb feelers for radials... U'd only
need 4... Is JC Whitney still around?? hahaha..

Wilson 1000 Antenna Question
 

On 06 Sep 2006 21:00:17 GMT, Steveo wrote:

Ray Norshine wrote:
In rec.radio.cb , "Telstar Electronics"
said..., ups.com:

Landshark wrote:
Three feet square? What do -you- drive..... a hot-dog cart?

LOL!!! Geo Metro?

3X'3' is nine square feet... check your math... LOL

Maybe, but will a cb radio take kindly to 'your' math?

27 sq. ft. 'might' be a slight improvement.........

That's a really BIG stretch metro!


Moped, he should just put up a dipole as high as he could in the garage. No
ground plane needed. And the best part, no bickering !

Vinnie S.

Wilson 1000 Antenna Question
 

On Wed, 6 Sep 2006 05:25:44 +0100, "Peter" wrote:


It is also possible to make your own antenna from wire. A dipole
makes a reasonable antenna at a very low cost, and is easily mounted
or hung from something.


Listen to this guy !

All you need is 2 wires, and tune them to 27,200.

Vinnie S.

Wilson 1000 Antenna Question
 

"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
...
On 5 Sep 2006 16:26:53 -0700, "Telstar Electronics"
wrote in
.com:

U-Know-Who wrote:
3' X 3', huh Brian? At 27Mhz? Is this some sort of magic sheetmetal with
superior RF characteristics you've patented? Glad to see you are not
building antennas.

That size piece of metal should work just fine... how big do you think
the roof of your car is where it normally sits... not much bigger.


Three feet square? What do -you- drive..... a hot-dog cart?

Frank, please interject some reality into this thread.

Wilson 1000 Antenna Question
 

Steveo wrote:
"K4YZ" wrote:
Slow Code wrote:
Drifter wrote in
:

I want to connect a mobile CB radio to a power supply in the garage.

My question: Is it possible to use my Wilson 1000 as a type of "base

station" antenna

Sure...but only if you leave it mounted ON THE CAR and stretch the
cheapest quality RadioShack RG-58 cable to it over the longest distance
possible.

Do you have to wear a jump suit borrowed from goodwill too?

Sure...But only if it's been ironed so often that it's shiny and
you can still see the "UPS" logo pressed into the cloth where the old
patch was cut off!

73

Steve, K4YZ

Wilson 1000 Antenna Question
 

Landshark wrote:
Guarantee that a Geo Metro is more than 9' Sqr of metal.

Yes, you're probably right... but the question is do you really need
more area than that. The answer is "it depends". It depends on what
type of radiation pattern you're looking for. The bigger the plane
underneath the antenna... the lower the angle of radiation. The 3'X3'
piece will work... but may not give as low a radiation angle as a
larger surface.

www.telstar-electronics.com

Wilson 1000 Antenna Question
 

Ray Norshine wrote:
In rec.radio.cb , Steveo said...,
:

Ray Norshine wrote:
In rec.radio.cb , "Telstar Electronics"
said..., ups.com:

Landshark wrote:
Three feet square? What do -you- drive..... a hot-dog cart?

LOL!!! Geo Metro?

3X'3' is nine square feet... check your math... LOL

Maybe, but will a cb radio take kindly to 'your' math?

27 sq. ft. 'might' be a slight improvement.........

That's a really BIG stretch metro!

Put on some (big ass'd) 8' curb feelers for radials... U'd only
need 4... Is JC Whitney still around?? hahaha..

Can the alternator supply the audio equipment AND the transmitter on one
that rig? ha