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Landshark wrote:
"jim" wrote in message ... james wrote: On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 20:51:14 -0500, jim wrote: +++Steveo wrote: +++ +++ (I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote: +++ +++From: (Steveo) +++ +++I wish the PDL II was still being made. +++ +++Have you considered stacked V-quads? +++ +++ +++ Not really. I think jo gunn is the route I'm going so far. Anyone disagree? +++Being a fan of the ants, the only thing i can say about them is its 10+ +++years in a salt air environment and the only thing I modified was the +++nuts/screws to stainless. ************* I prefer chrome plated brass for marine and salt environment over stainless steel. With enough exposure and time, SS will rust. Brass never rusts. james Cheers James, but where am I missing something when you say stainless steel rusts? Wouldn't brass oxidize in a salt environment? Besides what I am reffering to is the nuts/bolts holding the kit together. An observant operator will inspect his kit yearly and make adjustments accordingly. Howdy Jim, Yes SS does rust, but at a far lower rate than regular steel. Brass might oxidize a little, but will never corrode under salt air environments. Landshark Hey Shark, my point was that stainless when used and inspected accordingly would perform just as well as brass at a lower cost. Should have said that originally. Its actually a silly point as we are talking nickels and dimes. |
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Landshark wrote:
"jim" wrote in message ... Ya know mate you've been postng negative crap concerning cb operators for the past several months. Whats up with that? I'm thinking, correct me if I'm wrong, you have nothing better to do. Do you post on the amateur ng's with any relative discussions? On a lighter note, how about them Niners???? LMAO!!!! Landshark Not as bad as the Jets who lost to the lowly Browns eh steve? hehehe |
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jim wrote:
Landshark wrote: "jim" wrote in message ... Ya know mate you've been postng negative crap concerning cb operators for the past several months. Whats up with that? I'm thinking, correct me if I'm wrong, you have nothing better to do. Do you post on the amateur ng's with any relative discussions? On a lighter note, how about them Niners???? LMAO!!!! Landshark Not as bad as the Jets who lost to the lowly Browns eh steve? hehehe They just barely lost to them...how about that call at the end with the touchdown to tie? That was really close, I'm glad I didn't have to make that call. |
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On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 19:33:44 -0500, jim
wrote: +++james wrote: +++ On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 20:51:14 -0500, jim +++ wrote: +++ +++ ++++++Steveo wrote: ++++++ ++++++ (I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote: ++++++ ++++++From: (Steveo) ++++++ ++++++I wish the PDL II was still being made. ++++++ ++++++Have you considered stacked V-quads? ++++++ ++++++ ++++++ Not really. I think jo gunn is the route I'm going so far. Anyone disagree? ++++++Being a fan of the ants, the only thing i can say about them is its 10+ ++++++years in a salt air environment and the only thing I modified was the ++++++nuts/screws to stainless. +++ +++ ************* +++ +++ I prefer chrome plated brass for marine and salt environment over +++ stainless steel. With enough exposure and time, SS will rust. Brass +++ never rusts. +++ +++ +++ james +++Cheers James, but where am I missing something when you say stainless +++steel rusts? Wouldn't brass oxidize in a salt environment? Besides what +++I am reffering to is the nuts/bolts holding the kit together. An +++observant operator will inspect his kit yearly and make adjustments +++accordingly. ************* Nuts and bolts are exactly what I am talking about. Brass, like SS, have many different alloys in which some are better than others. I should also mention that not all brass is usable for screws and nuts. With brass too much zync and/or too little zync make most brass not usable for screws. Too m uch zy nc and brass becomes brittle. Too little zync and it becomes to soft. Aluminum can be added in small amounts to make brass more resistant to oxidation. Also brass is heavier than SS. SS is not totally resistant to rust. There are several alloys of SS that are less reactive with salt air environment. Yet eventually they to will start to rust. Brass will oxidize with the salt air environment. The oxide from brass is far easier to clean and less evasive than that of oxidation from ferrous material. Ferrous oxide, rust, will consume the entire ferrous metal. With brass, oxidation retards as the surface area is coated. With brass the oxidation acts like a protective coating and when there is no more exposed brass, oxidation slows dramatically. Iron based metals do not exhibit this quality. james |
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On 01 Nov 2006 02:48:49 GMT, Steveo wrote:
+++jim wrote: +++ james wrote: +++ On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 20:51:14 -0500, jim +++ wrote: +++ +++ +++ +++Steveo wrote: +++ +++ +++ +++ (I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote: +++ +++ +++ +++From: (Steveo) +++ +++ +++ +++I wish the PDL II was still being made. +++ +++ +++ +++Have you considered stacked V-quads? +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ Not really. I think jo gunn is the route I'm going so far. Anyone +++ disagree? +++Being a fan of the ants, the only thing i can say about +++ them is its 10+ +++years in a salt air environment and the only thing I +++ modified was the +++nuts/screws to stainless. +++ +++ ************* +++ +++ I prefer chrome plated brass for marine and salt environment over +++ stainless steel. With enough exposure and time, SS will rust. Brass +++ never rusts. +++ +++ +++ james +++ Cheers James, but where am I missing something when you say stainless +++ steel rusts? Wouldn't brass oxidize in a salt environment? Besides what +++ I am reffering to is the nuts/bolts holding the kit together. An +++ observant operator will inspect his kit yearly and make adjustments +++ accordingly. +++ +++Stainless is usually adequate for one antenna lifetime here in Ohio. Dunno +++much about antenna hardware life down by the sharks and such. ************ Next to the coast here in Florida, I have seen SS start rusting in less than a year. Also, I used to own a boat and after a year or two, every piece of SS on the boat was replaced with chrome plated brass. james |
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On 01 Nov 2006 02:48:49 GMT, Steveo wrote: +++jim wrote: +++ james wrote: +++ On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 20:51:14 -0500, jim +++ wrote: +++ +++ +++ +++Steveo wrote: +++ +++ +++ +++ (I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote: +++ +++ +++ +++From: (Steveo) +++ +++ +++ +++I wish the PDL II was still being made. +++ +++ +++ +++Have you considered stacked V-quads? +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ Not really. I think jo gunn is the route I'm going so far. Anyone +++ disagree? +++Being a fan of the ants, the only thing i can say about +++ them is its 10+ +++years in a salt air environment and the only thing I +++ modified was the +++nuts/screws to stainless. +++ +++ ************* +++ +++ I prefer chrome plated brass for marine and salt environment over +++ stainless steel. With enough exposure and time, SS will rust. Brass +++ never rusts. +++ +++ +++ james +++ Cheers James, but where am I missing something when you say stainless +++ steel rusts? Wouldn't brass oxidize in a salt environment? Besides what +++ I am reffering to is the nuts/bolts holding the kit together. An +++ observant operator will inspect his kit yearly and make adjustments +++ accordingly. +++ +++Stainless is usually adequate for one antenna lifetime here in Ohio. Dunno +++much about antenna hardware life down by the sharks and such. ************ Next to the coast here in Florida, I have seen SS start rusting in less than a year. Also, I used to own a boat and after a year or two, every piece of SS on the boat was replaced with chrome plated brass. james Dang, that seems fairly quick but I don't doubt it. Thankfully we only get big snow here, no salt waters except what sprays up from the salted parking lots and roads in the winter travels on your vehicle. Isn't copper as soft as your dick after you're done ****ing tho? I can't imagine it as a mounting hardware. |
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Steveo wrote:
jim wrote: Landshark wrote: "jim" wrote in message ... Ya know mate you've been postng negative crap concerning cb operators for the past several months. Whats up with that? I'm thinking, correct me if I'm wrong, you have nothing better to do. Do you post on the amateur ng's with any relative discussions? On a lighter note, how about them Niners???? LMAO!!!! Landshark Not as bad as the Jets who lost to the lowly Browns eh steve? hehehe They just barely lost to them...how about that call at the end with the touchdown to tie? That was really close, I'm glad I didn't have to make that call. the gents in the jets ng have been ****ing about that call. it truly was a bullsh*t decision. |
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jim wrote:
Steveo wrote: jim wrote: Landshark wrote: "jim" wrote in message ... Ya know mate you've been postng negative crap concerning cb operators for the past several months. Whats up with that? I'm thinking, correct me if I'm wrong, you have nothing better to do. Do you post on the amateur ng's with any relative discussions? On a lighter note, how about them Niners???? LMAO!!!! Landshark Not as bad as the Jets who lost to the lowly Browns eh steve? hehehe They just barely lost to them...how about that call at the end with the touchdown to tie? That was really close, I'm glad I didn't have to make that call. the gents in the jets ng have been ****ing about that call. it truly was a bullsh*t decision. Bull**** because you guys didn't luck out and tie at the end, right? Otherwise we all know you Jets were hardly even in that game with the lowly Browns as far as I could see. :) |
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