On 05 Jan 2007 17:16:13 GMT, Steveo wrote in
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Hey, maybe you know how to fix this problem: The edge of my lawn that
hits the sidewalk always drys up about mid summer. I thought it was
getting burned by the heat from the concrete but it doesn't come back
no matter how much I water it, shade it, fertilize it, areate it....
and no, it's not from people walking their dogs. Is this some weird
type of grass that only grows next to concrete? Should I just reseed?

Is it mostly sunny in that spot? It may be a strain poa annua which is an
annual grass that dies every summer. I'd have to see it to know. Yeah if
it's sunny there you might consider sowing some turf type tall fescue or
some sort of a perennial blend rye/blue/fescue. If it's shade go more with
the fine fescue/rye blend.


Turns out it's a fine fescue that's quickly overtaking my bluegrass,
both front and back. It looks great now that it's spring, but by July
I'm going to lose half my lawn (right now I have a two-tone yard!).
Any idea how to get rid of it without replanting? Like, maybe a
bluegrass or tall fescue strain that will choke it out?

Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 05 Jan 2007 17:16:13 GMT, Steveo wrote in
:

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Hey, maybe you know how to fix this problem: The edge of my lawn that
hits the sidewalk always drys up about mid summer. I thought it was
getting burned by the heat from the concrete but it doesn't come back
no matter how much I water it, shade it, fertilize it, areate it....
and no, it's not from people walking their dogs. Is this some weird
type of grass that only grows next to concrete? Should I just reseed?

Is it mostly sunny in that spot? It may be a strain poa annua which is
an annual grass that dies every summer. I'd have to see it to know. Yeah
if it's sunny there you might consider sowing some turf type tall fescue
or some sort of a perennial blend rye/blue/fescue. If it's shade go more
with the fine fescue/rye blend.

Turns out it's a fine fescue that's quickly overtaking my bluegrass,
both front and back. It looks great now that it's spring, but by July
I'm going to lose half my lawn (right now I have a two-tone yard!).
Any idea how to get rid of it without replanting? Like, maybe a
bluegrass or tall fescue strain that will choke it out?

Not really, in fact fine fescue is more of a creeper than either blue or
tall fescue. Fine fescue does well in shade but doesn't handle full sun as
well, and it tends to develop excessive thatch. It almost feels like you're
walking on a sponge when that happens. How many sq ft are you talking
about?

On 28 Mar 2007 10:40:11 GMT, Steveo wrote in
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Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 05 Jan 2007 17:16:13 GMT, Steveo wrote in
:

snip
Hey, maybe you know how to fix this problem: The edge of my lawn that
hits the sidewalk always drys up about mid summer. I thought it was
getting burned by the heat from the concrete but it doesn't come back
no matter how much I water it, shade it, fertilize it, areate it....
and no, it's not from people walking their dogs. Is this some weird
type of grass that only grows next to concrete? Should I just reseed?

Is it mostly sunny in that spot? It may be a strain poa annua which is
an annual grass that dies every summer. I'd have to see it to know. Yeah
if it's sunny there you might consider sowing some turf type tall fescue
or some sort of a perennial blend rye/blue/fescue. If it's shade go more
with the fine fescue/rye blend.

Turns out it's a fine fescue that's quickly overtaking my bluegrass,
both front and back. It looks great now that it's spring, but by July
I'm going to lose half my lawn (right now I have a two-tone yard!).
Any idea how to get rid of it without replanting? Like, maybe a
bluegrass or tall fescue strain that will choke it out?

Not really, in fact fine fescue is more of a creeper than either blue or
tall fescue. Fine fescue does well in shade but doesn't handle full sun as
well, and it tends to develop excessive thatch.


No kidding. LOL!


It almost feels like you're
walking on a sponge when that happens. How many sq ft are you talking
about?


Enough. Funny thing though, I don't know where it came from. It's in
the front yard right beside the sidewalk, and smack dab middle of the
back yard. And none of my neighbors have the same stuff. Oh well, I
guess I'll be planting a sod garden this year. Thanks tho.

Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 28 Mar 2007 10:40:11 GMT, Steveo wrote in
:

Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 05 Jan 2007 17:16:13 GMT, Steveo wrote in
:

snip
Hey, maybe you know how to fix this problem: The edge of my lawn
that hits the sidewalk always drys up about mid summer. I thought
it was getting burned by the heat from the concrete but it doesn't
come back no matter how much I water it, shade it, fertilize it,
areate it.... and no, it's not from people walking their dogs. Is
this some weird type of grass that only grows next to concrete?
Should I just reseed?

Is it mostly sunny in that spot? It may be a strain poa annua which
is an annual grass that dies every summer. I'd have to see it to
know. Yeah if it's sunny there you might consider sowing some turf
type tall fescue or some sort of a perennial blend rye/blue/fescue.
If it's shade go more with the fine fescue/rye blend.

Turns out it's a fine fescue that's quickly overtaking my bluegrass,
both front and back. It looks great now that it's spring, but by July
I'm going to lose half my lawn (right now I have a two-tone yard!).
Any idea how to get rid of it without replanting? Like, maybe a
bluegrass or tall fescue strain that will choke it out?

Not really, in fact fine fescue is more of a creeper than either blue or
tall fescue. Fine fescue does well in shade but doesn't handle full sun
as well, and it tends to develop excessive thatch.

No kidding. LOL!

It has it's place, generally under a tree canopy.


It almost feels like you're
walking on a sponge when that happens. How many sq ft are you talking
about?

Enough. Funny thing though, I don't know where it came from. It's in
the front yard right beside the sidewalk, and smack dab middle of the
back yard. And none of my neighbors have the same stuff.

Who knows how some of that stuff gets started? It may have been 7% of the
seed blend when that lawn was initially sown, as I said it creeps. It's a
weed to you but I know people with big trees that would love to have it.


Oh well, I
guess I'll be planting a sod garden this year. Thanks tho.

I wouldn't do sod unless you're looking for instant green. Is the grade OK?

On 28 Mar 2007 21:35:18 GMT, Steveo wrote in
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Who knows how some of that stuff gets started? It may have been 7% of the
seed blend when that lawn was initially sown, as I said it creeps. It's a
weed to you but I know people with big trees that would love to have it.


They can come get it anytime they want. I'm in zone 3: semi-arid,
temps between -10 to 110 degrees, and unusually windy the past few
years (apparently due to global warming). So my choices for grass are
limited to bluegrass, some types of tall fescue, and tumbleweed. There
are a few varieties of fine fescue that will work here if you're
willing to shell out major bucks for water, and some crazy folks
around here do just that, but the stuff I have doesn't seem to handle
heat at all..... kinda like it came from the wet side of the state. I
just want to get rid of it.


Oh well, I
guess I'll be planting a sod garden this year. Thanks tho.

I wouldn't do sod unless you're looking for instant green. Is the grade OK?


Yeah, it's just a slight slope, but it's right next to the sidewalk.
So either I lay down sod or I shoot all the stray dogs and neighbor
kids that would otherwise trample my seedlings. As much as I would
like to do the latter, I think I'll just go with the sod plan.

Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 28 Mar 2007 21:35:18 GMT, Steveo wrote in
:

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Who knows how some of that stuff gets started? It may have been 7% of
the seed blend when that lawn was initially sown, as I said it creeps.
It's a weed to you but I know people with big trees that would love to
have it.

They can come get it anytime they want.

For sale- fine fescue, pick-up only. Will not ship.

I'm in zone 3: semi-arid,
temps between -10 to 110 degrees, and unusually windy the past few
years (apparently due to global warming).

Or them damn volcanoes. Al Gore on line one.


So my choices for grass are
limited to bluegrass, some types of tall fescue, and tumbleweed.

The -10 is too cold for tall fescue? We get that temp here in the Buckeye
too but not very often. Tall fescue is the next bluegrass, considering the
water budget for most.

There
are a few varieties of fine fescue that will work here if you're
willing to shell out major bucks for water, and some crazy folks
around here do just that, but the stuff I have doesn't seem to handle
heat at all..... kinda like it came from the wet side of the state. I
just want to get rid of it.

Weird. Fine fescue is considered a shade tolerant only turfgrass here.
We're only a few thousand miles apart, right?

Oh well, I
guess I'll be planting a sod garden this year. Thanks tho.

I wouldn't do sod unless you're looking for instant green. Is the grade
OK?

Yeah, it's just a slight slope, but it's right next to the sidewalk.
So either I lay down sod or I shoot all the stray dogs and neighbor
kids that would otherwise trample my seedlings. As much as I would
like to do the latter, I think I'll just go with the sod plan.

The dreaded traffic problem. New sod isn't in love with it either, but I
know what you're saying.

At any rate good luck with it.