Frank Gilliland wrote:
The employer owns the design. I have no right or control over any
design made under the direction of any of my previous employers. That
means I can't use them, I can't re-use them, I can't sell them and I
can't publically disclose them. The only reason I'm mentioning this is
because it was pointed out to me that a lot of people don't know this.
But it really doesn't matter to you since you were never an engineer
and are now back to your pouting routine. Works for me.

Frank, I couldn't resist responding to this. Are you saying that you
never designed anything outside of work? This makes no sense if you're
an engineer! Still waiting to see a design from you. Something tells me
I've got a long wait... LOL

What's new? Glad you asked...
http://www.telstar-electronics.com/d...s/WhatsNew.htm

On 3 Jan 2007 10:27:46 -0800, "Telstar Electronics"
wrote in
.com:

Frank Gilliland wrote:
The employer owns the design. I have no right or control over any
design made under the direction of any of my previous employers. That
means I can't use them, I can't re-use them, I can't sell them and I
can't publically disclose them. The only reason I'm mentioning this is
because it was pointed out to me that a lot of people don't know this.
But it really doesn't matter to you since you were never an engineer
and are now back to your pouting routine. Works for me.

Frank, I couldn't resist responding to this. Are you saying that you
never designed anything outside of work? This makes no sense if you're
an engineer! Still waiting to see a design from you. Something tells me
I've got a long wait... LOL


Wrong again, Brian. Most of my work was done at work on the company
computers, so I don't have access to most of it even if I -could- post
it. But you're in luck; I was just doing my annual file-cabinet clean
out and ran across a schematic for part of a preliminary Class D audio
amp I designed about ten years ago. The technology was moving fast at
the time and the design was only used for a year or two, but I still
blurred out the name:

www.icehouse.net/wirenut/2934d3.jpg

Here's a couple scans of pcb art I found in a pile of other papers.
The first is an EM monitor I whipped up for a friend's project for her
Master's thesis relating to computer monitors (needed to eliminate a
suggested confound). The second is one of many variations of a 8255
I/O card; I don't remember what application this one was for:

www.icehouse.net/wirenut/elf-4.jpg
www.icehouse.net/wirenut/8255v8.jpg

As for my personal projects, there is gobs of stuff. Let's start with
something simple like a capacitance amplifier:

www.icehouse.net/wirenut/c-amp.gif

And don't forget the Twisty-Buster:

www.icehouse.net/wirenut/tb_rdf2.gif
www.icehouse.net/wirenut/tb_rdf_o.gif

Here's an audio compressor I started a few years ago and has been on
the shelf awaiting refinement:

www.icehouse.net/wirenut/tub_comp.gif

You know, I could post a ****load of stuff..... can you be more
specific about what you are looking for? Oh, and there is a price for
knowledge, Brian. If you want more you need to post the schematic for
your amp. It's only fair, don't ya think?


What's new? Glad you asked...


I didn't. I don't care.

"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
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On 3 Jan 2007 10:27:46 -0800, "Telstar Electronics"
wrote in
.com:

Frank Gilliland wrote:
The employer owns the design. I have no right or control over any
design made under the direction of any of my previous employers. That
means I can't use them, I can't re-use them, I can't sell them and I
can't publically disclose them. The only reason I'm mentioning this is
because it was pointed out to me that a lot of people don't know this.
But it really doesn't matter to you since you were never an engineer
and are now back to your pouting routine. Works for me.

Frank, I couldn't resist responding to this. Are you saying that you
never designed anything outside of work? This makes no sense if you're
an engineer! Still waiting to see a design from you. Something tells me
I've got a long wait... LOL


Wrong again, Brian. Most of my work was done at work on the company
computers, so I don't have access to most of it even if I -could- post
it. But you're in luck; I was just doing my annual file-cabinet clean
out and ran across a schematic for part of a preliminary Class D audio
amp I designed about ten years ago. The technology was moving fast at
the time and the design was only used for a year or two, but I still
blurred out the name:

www.icehouse.net/wirenut/2934d3.jpg

Here's a couple scans of pcb art I found in a pile of other papers.
The first is an EM monitor I whipped up for a friend's project for her
Master's thesis relating to computer monitors (needed to eliminate a
suggested confound). The second is one of many variations of a 8255
I/O card; I don't remember what application this one was for:

www.icehouse.net/wirenut/elf-4.jpg
www.icehouse.net/wirenut/8255v8.jpg

As for my personal projects, there is gobs of stuff. Let's start with
something simple like a capacitance amplifier:

www.icehouse.net/wirenut/c-amp.gif

And don't forget the Twisty-Buster:

www.icehouse.net/wirenut/tb_rdf2.gif
www.icehouse.net/wirenut/tb_rdf_o.gif

Here's an audio compressor I started a few years ago and has been on
the shelf awaiting refinement:

www.icehouse.net/wirenut/tub_comp.gif

You know, I could post a ****load of stuff..... can you be more
specific about what you are looking for? Oh, and there is a price for
knowledge, Brian. If you want more you need to post the schematic for
your amp. It's only fair, don't ya think?


Frank, have you noticed that he's also very careful about the photos of his
amp? Only various photos of select parts, with none that can be
viewed/linked as a whole. I've never seen a real amplifier manufacturer do
such things. Have you?



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On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 19:49:41 -0800, Frank Gilliland
wrote in
:

snip
....But you're in luck; I was just doing my annual file-cabinet clean
out and ran across a schematic for part of a preliminary Class D audio
amp I designed about ten years ago. The technology was moving fast at
the time and the design was only used for a year or two, but I still
blurred out the name:

www.icehouse.net/wirenut/2934d3.jpg


Even better luck: I found the whole folder complete with my notes.
Here's the full schematic that was sent to prototype:

www.icehouse.net/wirenut/cls_d4_d.jpg

The other schematic was for a variation that didn't work very well;
there was a reactive loading problem with the IRF740LC.

Now..... any more stupid questions, Brian?

Frank Gilliland wrote:
Wrong again, Brian. Most of my work was done at work on the company
computers, so I don't have access to most of it even if I -could- post
it. But you're in luck; I was just doing my annual file-cabinet clean
out and ran across a schematic for part of a preliminary Class D audio
amp I designed about ten years ago. The technology was moving fast at
the time and the design was only used for a year or two, but I still
blurred out the name:

www.icehouse.net/wirenut/2934d3.jpg

Here's a couple scans of pcb art I found in a pile of other papers.
The first is an EM monitor I whipped up for a friend's project for her
Master's thesis relating to computer monitors (needed to eliminate a
suggested confound). The second is one of many variations of a 8255
I/O card; I don't remember what application this one was for:

www.icehouse.net/wirenut/elf-4.jpg
www.icehouse.net/wirenut/8255v8.jpg

As for my personal projects, there is gobs of stuff. Let's start with
something simple like a capacitance amplifier:

www.icehouse.net/wirenut/c-amp.gif

And don't forget the Twisty-Buster:

www.icehouse.net/wirenut/tb_rdf2.gif
www.icehouse.net/wirenut/tb_rdf_o.gif

Here's an audio compressor I started a few years ago and has been on
the shelf awaiting refinement:

www.icehouse.net/wirenut/tub_comp.gif


Most of that stuff is not RF related... and is older than dirt (tube
audio compressor...LOL)
Most don't have any indication that you were the originator.
Yet you're so vociferous in your attack of my RF amplifier design.
Why is that Frank?... when you obviously have very little RF
experience.

What's new? Glad you asked...
http://www.telstar-electronics.com/d...s/WhatsNew.htm

On 4 Jan 2007 04:20:43 -0800, "Telstar Electronics"
wrote in
. com:

snip
Most of that stuff is not RF related...


No more than your "compressor". But then you didn't specify.


and is older than dirt (tube
audio compressor...LOL)


You are way out of touch with reality on this one, Brian. Tube audio,
ESPECIALLY the compressors, are some of the most desireable audiophile
circuits on the market. The reason is because the sound that can't be
duplicated by silicon. For at least ten years now many major audio
equipment manufacturers have included some sort of tube audio in the
line, and a few make tube preamps and processors almost exclusively.
"Older than dirt"? Right. Sure. And your fourth-generation hacks are
state-of-the-art.


Most don't have any indication that you were the originator.


Except that I posted them to my website, claiming them as my own, and
you can't find them anywhere else, not on the net nor in any book. In
fact, I posted much of the stuff previously on my website (back when I
maintained a website). I'm kind of suprised that you didn't recognize
it.

Anyway, you asked and I provided. Now where's the schematic for your
amp? Do you need more time to modify it so your "design" can't be
recognized as a hack?


Yet you're so vociferous in your attack of my RF amplifier design.
Why is that Frank?...


You know why, Brain. You're just trying to save face..... and making
yourself look like a moron in the process. Honestly, I don't think
you're a moron at all. Not everyone can grasp even the scant little
bit of electronics you have learned. But you are trying to take the
lazy man's path to engineering. It doesn't work that way, Brian.
That's why you don't see hacker companies last longer than a few
years, with most ending in bankruptcy (and sometimes in criminal
proceedings). If that's your goal then hey, by all means, go for it!


when you obviously have very little RF
experience.


LOL!!!

On Jan 4, 8:11 am, Frank Gilliland
wrote:
On 4 Jan 2007 04:20:43 -0800, "Telstar Electronics"
wrote in
. com:

snip

Most of that stuff is not RF related...No more than your "compressor". But then you didn't specify.

and is older than dirt (tube
audio compressor...LOL)You are way out of touch with reality on this one, Brian. Tube audio,
ESPECIALLY the compressors, are some of the most desireable audiophile
circuits on the market. The reason is because the sound that can't be
duplicated by silicon. For at least ten years now many major audio
equipment manufacturers have included some sort of tube audio in the
line, and a few make tube preamps and processors almost exclusively.
"Older than dirt"? Right. Sure. And your fourth-generation hacks are
state-of-the-art.

Most don't have any indication that you were the originator.Except that I posted them to my website, claiming them as my own, and
you can't find them anywhere else, not on the net nor in any book. In
fact, I posted much of the stuff previously on my website (back when I
maintained a website). I'm kind of suprised that you didn't recognize
it.

Anyway, you asked and I provided. Now where's the schematic for your
amp? Do you need more time to modify it so your "design" can't be
recognized as a hack?

Yet you're so vociferous in your attack of my RF amplifier design.
Why is that Frank?...You know why, Brain. You're just trying to save face..... and making
yourself look like a moron in the process. Honestly, I don't think
you're a moron at all. Not everyone can grasp even the scant little
bit of electronics you have learned. But you are trying to take the
lazy man's path to engineering. It doesn't work that way, Brian.
That's why you don't see hacker companies last longer than a few
years, with most ending in bankruptcy (and sometimes in criminal
proceedings). If that's your goal then hey, by all means, go for it!

when you obviously have very little RF
experience.LOL!!!

Frank, don't think many are fooled by your rhetoric.
Have a nice day...

www.telstar-electronics.com

On 4 Jan 2007 06:53:31 -0800, "Telstar Electronics"
wrote in
.com:

snip
Frank, don't think many are fooled by your rhetoric.
Have a nice day...


Just remember.... 34 watts of distortion from an unmodulated carrier.
You know what that means, Brian? It means that if, by some bizzare and
unnatural circumstance, the sales of your amps actually takes off, you
are going to have to deal with some mighty ****ed-off customers. Can
you say, "Notice of Apparent Liability"?

On 3 Jan 2007 10:27:46 -0800, "Telstar Electronics"
wrote:

+++Frank Gilliland wrote:
+++ The employer owns the design. I have no right or control over any
+++ design made under the direction of any of my previous employers. That
+++ means I can't use them, I can't re-use them, I can't sell them and I
+++ can't publically disclose them. The only reason I'm mentioning this is
+++ because it was pointed out to me that a lot of people don't know this.
+++ But it really doesn't matter to you since you were never an engineer
+++ and are now back to your pouting routine. Works for me.
+++
+++Frank, I couldn't resist responding to this. Are you saying that you
+++never designed anything outside of work? This makes no sense if you're
+++an engineer! Still waiting to see a design from you. Something tells me
+++I've got a long wait... LOL
+++
+++What's new? Glad you asked...
+++http://www.telstar-electronics.com/d...s/WhatsNew.htm
***********

Outside my engineering job, designing circuits was as far as anything
that I wanted to do. When your hobby and work comingle, it makes for a
very dull life.

Also indefense of Frank, most major electronics firms make you sign a
non disclosure agreement(NDA). That means that you can not divulge
anything of your job, projects that you worked on or that the company
is doing or is in plan. Usually these last for at least one year after
employement ceases. Also any patents that you file outside work during
employment or within a one year period after employment ceases is
subject to challenge as it might contain intellectual property from
your former employer.

NDAs can be very restrictive. Also they are very binding legally.

james

On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 06:11:11 -0800, Frank Gilliland
wrote:

+++You are way out of touch with reality on this one, Brian. Tube audio,
+++ESPECIALLY the compressors, are some of the most desireable audiophile
+++circuits on the market. The reason is because the sound that can't be
+++duplicated by silicon. For at least ten years now many major audio
+++equipment manufacturers have included some sort of tube audio in the
+++line, and a few make tube preamps and processors almost exclusively.
+++"Older than dirt"? Right. Sure. And your fourth-generation hacks are
+++state-of-the-art.
**********

Frank

I agree some of the best high end audio is still produced using tubes.
There are some distortion characteristics that bipolar silicon just
can't get away from. FETs are better than bipolar, but are still
lacking in some aspects.

james