On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 10:46:16 -0700, Telstar Electronics
wrote:

http://www.telstar-electronics.com/d...evelopment.htm


Brian,

Anyway to make this easier to connect, such a in series with the mic so I do not
have to hack to cut traces? Like possibly putting in a box with and stantard 4
pin on the input and output? Also, what mic should you use with this?

Vinnie S.

Vinnie S. wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 10:46:16 -0700, Telstar Electronics
wrote:

http://www.telstar-electronics.com/d...tDevelopment.h
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Brian,

Anyway to make this easier to connect, such a in series with the mic so I
do not have to hack to cut traces? Like possibly putting in a box with
and stantard 4 pin on the input and output? Also, what mic should you use
with this?

Vinnie S.

You have one, Enzo?

On 07 Jul 2007 03:16:15 GMT, Steveo wrote:

Vinnie S. wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 10:46:16 -0700, Telstar Electronics
wrote:

http://www.telstar-electronics.com/d...tDevelopment.h
tm

Brian,

Anyway to make this easier to connect, such a in series with the mic so I
do not have to hack to cut traces? Like possibly putting in a box with
and stantard 4 pin on the input and output? Also, what mic should you use
with this?

Vinnie S.

You have one, Enzo?


No. But I would give it a shot, just for the purpose of experimenting.

Vinnie S.

"Vinnie S." wrote...
On 07 Jul 2007 03:16:15 GMT, Steveo wrote:

You have one, Enzo?

No. But I would give it a shot, just for the purpose of experimenting.

Here comes RRCB customer No 3.

This is becoming a sales boom.


Regards,
Peter.
http://www.citizensband.radiouk.com/

On Jul 6, 9:59 pm, Vinnie S. wrote:
Anyway to make this easier to connect, such a in series with the mic so I do not
have to hack to cut traces? Like possibly putting in a box with and stantard 4
pin on the input and output? Also, what mic should you use with this?

An external device as you describe was considered during the design
phase... but we decided that an external box (although easier to hook
up initially) was unsightly with all the wires hanging all over, had
mounting issues, and therefore was much less reliable in the long run.
It also has problems accomodating different mic/radio plugs. The
VoiceMax requires the cutting of a single trace within the receiver
and works with any non-amplified dynamic mic. Since it's inside the
rig... you set it up once... and enjoy the benefit each & every
transmission without doing a thing. Hope that answers your comment/
question.
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On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 08:10:05 -0700, Telspam Electronics
wrote in
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On Jul 6, 9:59 pm, Vinnie S. wrote:
Anyway to make this easier to connect, such a in series with the mic so I do not
have to hack to cut traces? Like possibly putting in a box with and stantard 4
pin on the input and output? Also, what mic should you use with this?

An external device as you describe was considered during the design
phase... but we decided that an external box (although easier to hook
up initially) was unsightly with all the wires hanging all over, had
mounting issues, and therefore was much less reliable in the long run.
It also has problems accomodating different mic/radio plugs. The
VoiceMax requires the cutting of a single trace within the receiver
and works with any non-amplified dynamic mic. Since it's inside the
rig... you set it up once... and enjoy the benefit each & every
transmission without doing a thing. Hope that answers your comment/
question.


So you can't adjust the threshold on the noise gate? That's pretty
lame. So you set the threshold to trigger at a certain level, like
during normal driving. So what happens when you are towing a boat up a
hill with the windows open? How do you prevent it from chattering like
a chimp with the hiccups? Does it have hysteresis to smooth out the
chatter? If so, how long do you have to hum into the mic before you
can start talking? If not, and you have to set it high enough to
prevent chatter, how loud do you have to speak so your audio isn't
chopped up?

I don't think you've thought through this whole noise gate thing,
Brian. You certainly haven't tested it much under real conditions, if
at all. If you did you wouldn't be selling it.


And BTW, since your non-linear linear has been discontinued, why won't
you post the schematic?

On Jul 7, 7:12 pm, Frank Gilliland wrote:
So you can't adjust the threshold on the noise gate? That's pretty
lame. So you set the threshold to trigger at a certain level, like
during normal driving. So what happens when you are towing a boat up a
hill with the windows open? How do you prevent it from chattering like
a chimp with the hiccups? Does it have hysteresis to smooth out the
chatter? If so, how long do you have to hum into the mic before you
can start talking? If not, and you have to set it high enough to
prevent chatter, how loud do you have to speak so your audio isn't
chopped up?

Frank... you are really something..
You and electronics... is like a monkey at a typewriter... lol

On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 05:57:59 -0700, Telspam Electronics
wrote in
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On Jul 7, 7:12 pm, Frank Gilliland wrote:
So you can't adjust the threshold on the noise gate? That's pretty
lame. So you set the threshold to trigger at a certain level, like
during normal driving. So what happens when you are towing a boat up a
hill with the windows open? How do you prevent it from chattering like
a chimp with the hiccups? Does it have hysteresis to smooth out the
chatter? If so, how long do you have to hum into the mic before you
can start talking? If not, and you have to set it high enough to
prevent chatter, how loud do you have to speak so your audio isn't
chopped up?

Frank... you are really something..
You and electronics... is like a monkey at a typewriter... lol


.....monkey at a typewriter..... an even better way to describe the
chatter of a noise gate with a fixed threshold. Very good, Brian!!!

On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 05:57:59 -0700, Telstar Electronics
wrote:

+++On Jul 7, 7:12 pm, Frank Gilliland wrote:
+++ So you can't adjust the threshold on the noise gate? That's pretty
+++ lame. So you set the threshold to trigger at a certain level, like
+++ during normal driving. So what happens when you are towing a boat up a
+++ hill with the windows open? How do you prevent it from chattering like
+++ a chimp with the hiccups? Does it have hysteresis to smooth out the
+++ chatter? If so, how long do you have to hum into the mic before you
+++ can start talking? If not, and you have to set it high enough to
+++ prevent chatter, how loud do you have to speak so your audio isn't
+++ chopped up?
+++
+++Frank... you are really something..
+++You and electronics... is like a monkey at a typewriter... lol
*************

Actually he poses a very interesting question that relates to the
performance of the noise gate and it's response to rapid changing
background noise levels.

I think it is very germane to the evaluation of your product.

james

On Jul 8, 6:17 pm, james wrote:
Actually he poses a very interesting question that relates to the
performance of the noise gate and it's response to rapid changing
background noise levels.
I think it is very germane to the evaluation of your product.

The noise gate is not dynamic. It's set at the time of installation to
the anticipated ambient background noise level. It certainly does have
limitations. The S/N ratio of the audio should be high in order to
take full advantage of the gate. This means that talking two feet away
from the mic will not work well. The noise gate is extremely effective
when set with the user speaking directly into the mic from perhaps a
distance of an inch or two. This scenario allows a very large signal
to noise ratio. By setting the gate this way... significant background
noise can be blocked during low/non speech periods. The gate response
time is different depending on which way the gate is going. The time
it takes to break over the gate (quiet to speaking) is around 1mS. The
decay (speaking to quiet mute) is gradual and has been set to around
0.5S. The decay is not an instant transistion (like the break over).
This was done purposely to avoid any choppy effect from muting too
rapidly during normal speech.
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