On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 23:43:34 -0500, Vinnie S.
wrote:

|On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 20:39:58 -0500, james wrote:
|
|On 01 Mar 2008 04:01:22 GMT, Steve wrote:
|
||I'm thinking about buying a Yaesu FT-101E that has just been gone through,
||new finals and all. (those strange tubes) NOS case on it too, beautiful. No
||drift after warm-up.
||
||I've heard it on the air, and it sounds -FAT- on SSB, the owner says the
||receive is golden too. Money back guarantee. I sold my ts-520 so I'm back
||in the market for a fine sounding tube transceiver.
||
||My question is re-tubing the finals someday, I understand those are very
||rare now.
||
||How much will that cost me in today dollars?
||
||TIA
||
||------------------
|
|more than what the rig is worth.
|
|my opinion
|
|What tubes are they? That is kind of discouraging. They are great looking rigs.
|
|Vinnie S.
|-----------

6JS6C, two in the final stage. Even if you convert the final stage to
6146B's you are still at a cost of $40 or more for a matched pair.

james

wrote:
On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 23:43:34 -0500, Vinnie S.
wrote:

|On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 20:39:58 -0500, james wrote:
|
|On 01 Mar 2008 04:01:22 GMT, Steve wrote:
|
||I'm thinking about buying a Yaesu FT-101E that has just been gone
||through, new finals and all. (those strange tubes) NOS case on it too,
||beautiful. No drift after warm-up.
||
||I've heard it on the air, and it sounds -FAT- on SSB, the owner says
||the receive is golden too. Money back guarantee. I sold my ts-520 so
||I'm back in the market for a fine sounding tube transceiver.
||
||My question is re-tubing the finals someday, I understand those are
||very rare now.
||
||How much will that cost me in today dollars?
||
||TIA
||
||------------------
|
|more than what the rig is worth.
|
|my opinion
|
|What tubes are they? That is kind of discouraging. They are great
|looking rigs.
|
|Vinnie S.
|-----------

6JS6C, two in the final stage.

Yeah pricey!
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?
from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=6JS6C&category0=

Even if you convert the final stage to
6146B's you are still at a cost of $40 or more for a matched pair.

james

Ive heard it's not a good idea to switch the tubes.

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On 02 Mar 2008 14:54:19 GMT, Steve wrote:

wrote:
| On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 23:43:34 -0500, Vinnie S.
| wrote:
|
| |On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 20:39:58 -0500, james wrote:
| |
| |On 01 Mar 2008 04:01:22 GMT, Steve wrote:
| |
| ||I'm thinking about buying a Yaesu FT-101E that has just been gone
| ||through, new finals and all. (those strange tubes) NOS case on it too,
| ||beautiful. No drift after warm-up.
| ||
| ||I've heard it on the air, and it sounds -FAT- on SSB, the owner says
| ||the receive is golden too. Money back guarantee. I sold my ts-520 so
| ||I'm back in the market for a fine sounding tube transceiver.
| ||
| ||My question is re-tubing the finals someday, I understand those are
| ||very rare now.
| ||
| ||How much will that cost me in today dollars?
| ||
| ||TIA
| ||
| ||------------------
| |
| |more than what the rig is worth.
| |
| |my opinion
| |
| |What tubes are they? That is kind of discouraging. They are great
| |looking rigs.
| |
| |Vinnie S.
| |-----------
|
| 6JS6C, two in the final stage.
|
|Yeah pricey!
|http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?
|from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=6JS6C&category0=
|
| Even if you convert the final stage to
| 6146B's you are still at a cost of $40 or more for a matched pair.
|
| james
|
|Ive heard it's not a good idea to switch the tubes.
|
|---------------------

If you know what y ou are dong the conversion can be done. Today there
are not a lot of amature operators well schooled in tube theory. The
biggest issue is matching filament votages and currents. Some
transcievers and transmitters will put the final fillaments in series
with other tubes. Drake dows this with their TR4 and T4X units. I had
to strap a large wattage resistor over the filaments to balance
current.

I did a conversion on a Drake T4X to 6146Bs and the biggest issue I
had was keeping the final stage nuetralized on 10M. I ended up
regulating the screen voltage down to about 150VDC from the 250VDC the
6JB6s ran at. That helped a bunch. The drop in output was not a major
concern. Still was able to get 80W on 10M. The HA10 really only needs
about 50 W drive. Also modified the T4X so that I could bypass the
finals and drive an NCL2000. Now that is a nice amp.

james

wrote:
On 02 Mar 2008 14:54:19 GMT, Steve wrote:

wrote:
| On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 23:43:34 -0500, Vinnie S.
| wrote:
|
| |On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 20:39:58 -0500, james
| |wrote:
| |
| |On 01 Mar 2008 04:01:22 GMT, Steve wrote:
| |
| ||I'm thinking about buying a Yaesu FT-101E that has just been gone
| ||through, new finals and all. (those strange tubes) NOS case on it
| ||too, beautiful. No drift after warm-up.
| ||
| ||I've heard it on the air, and it sounds -FAT- on SSB, the owner
| ||says the receive is golden too. Money back guarantee. I sold my
| ||ts-520 so I'm back in the market for a fine sounding tube
| ||transceiver.
| ||
| ||My question is re-tubing the finals someday, I understand those are
| ||very rare now.
| ||
| ||How much will that cost me in today dollars?
| ||
| ||TIA
| ||
| ||------------------
| |
| |more than what the rig is worth.
| |
| |my opinion
| |
| |What tubes are they? That is kind of discouraging. They are great
| |looking rigs.
| |
| |Vinnie S.
| |-----------
|
| 6JS6C, two in the final stage.
|
|Yeah pricey!
|http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?
|from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=6JS6C&category0=
|
| Even if you convert the final stage to
| 6146B's you are still at a cost of $40 or more for a matched pair.
|
| james
|
|Ive heard it's not a good idea to switch the tubes.
|
|---------------------

If you know what y ou are dong the conversion can be done. Today there
are not a lot of amature operators well schooled in tube theory. The
biggest issue is matching filament votages and currents. Some
transcievers and transmitters will put the final fillaments in series
with other tubes. Drake dows this with their TR4 and T4X units. I had
to strap a large wattage resistor over the filaments to balance
current.

I did a conversion on a Drake T4X to 6146Bs and the biggest issue I
had was keeping the final stage nuetralized on 10M. I ended up
regulating the screen voltage down to about 150VDC from the 250VDC the
6JB6s ran at. That helped a bunch. The drop in output was not a major
concern. Still was able to get 80W on 10M. The HA10 really only needs
about 50 W drive. Also modified the T4X so that I could bypass the
finals and drive an NCL2000. Now that is a nice amp.

james

Yeah there you go James sounds like a plan. This old 30L1 seems to get
along with most anything I've tried, 70-100w in..I use an arb-704 buffer
when I run it with a transistor rig.

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6JS6C, two in the final stage. Even if you convert the final stage to
6146B's you are still at a cost of $40 or more for a matched pair.

james


I have been taking on a couple of restoration projects. First trying old CBs.
Then hope to try Ham rigs. Do a lot of the old rigs use these tubes?

Vinnie S.

Hey Vinnie I have an old Swan Egineering SW-240 Single Side Band Xcvr
you can have. Picked it up from a neighbors trash pile just before the
rains came. Just pay postage and its yours.
Also have a Johnson Viking MultiBand (10, 15, 20, 40, 60, 80 & 160)
meters but the fooker weighs like 80 lbs. Again yours for postage.

Vinnie S. wrote:
6JS6C, two in the final stage. Even if you convert the final stage to
6146B's you are still at a cost of $40 or more for a matched pair.

james



I have been taking on a couple of restoration projects. First trying old CBs.
Then hope to try Ham rigs. Do a lot of the old rigs use these tubes?

Vinnie S.

On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:42:20 -0500, jim wrote:

Hey Vinnie I have an old Swan Egineering SW-240 Single Side Band Xcvr
you can have. Picked it up from a neighbors trash pile just before the
rains came. Just pay postage and its yours.
Also have a Johnson Viking MultiBand (10, 15, 20, 40, 60, 80 & 160)
meters but the fooker weighs like 80 lbs. Again yours for postage.



Will do. I might have to pick them up, or meet you. Postage would be expensive,
but I am not worried about that. The weight of those things do not ship well.
Some always get damaged. I could meet you somewhere in Staten Island or such,
and would reimberse you for gas and tolls. But I want them both. I don't care of
condition. But are they complete?

I will be out of town this weekend (Florida).

Vinnie S.

Vinnie S. wrote:
On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:42:20 -0500, jim wrote:


Hey Vinnie I have an old Swan Egineering SW-240 Single Side Band Xcvr
you can have. Picked it up from a neighbors trash pile just before the
rains came. Just pay postage and its yours.
Also have a Johnson Viking MultiBand (10, 15, 20, 40, 60, 80 & 160)
meters but the fooker weighs like 80 lbs. Again yours for postage.




Will do. I might have to pick them up, or meet you. Postage would be expensive,
but I am not worried about that. The weight of those things do not ship well.
Some always get damaged. I could meet you somewhere in Staten Island or such,
and would reimberse you for gas and tolls. But I want them both. I don't care of
condition. But are they complete?

I will be out of town this weekend (Florida).

Vinnie S.
Email me direct Vinnie as I have an idea of where we can hook up.
The Swan has the original mic attached. Even has what appears to be
brackets where the gent used it as a mobile. The Viking doesn't have the
mic or power cord but you could figure those out. Its a restoration
thing with these but I'm fairly sure they work.

a).

Vinnie S.
Email me direct Vinnie as I have an idea of where we can hook up.
The Swan has the original mic attached. Even has what appears to be
brackets where the gent used it as a mobile. The Viking doesn't have the
mic or power cord but you could figure those out. Its a restoration
thing with these but I'm fairly sure they work.


I don't give a **** about mic or power cords, or even tubes. I was more
concerned about knobs and things like that.

I talked to me co-worker who lives in Edison, NJ. He said he would be a relay,
and pick up from you, and I pick up from him. We can arrange a meeting place
like Staten Island Hospital area right near the Verrazano, or somewhere like
that. How far are you from the Verrazano?


Vinnie S.

Vinnie S. wrote:
a).

Vinnie S.

Email me direct Vinnie as I have an idea of where we can hook up.
The Swan has the original mic attached. Even has what appears to be
brackets where the gent used it as a mobile. The Viking doesn't have the
mic or power cord but you could figure those out. Its a restoration
thing with these but I'm fairly sure they work.



I don't give a **** about mic or power cords, or even tubes. I was more
concerned about knobs and things like that.

I talked to me co-worker who lives in Edison, NJ. He said he would be a relay,
and pick up from you, and I pick up from him. We can arrange a meeting place
like Staten Island Hospital area right near the Verrazano, or somewhere like
that. How far are you from the Verrazano?


Vinnie S.

Email me direct Vinnie as there are some people coming and going between
here and there in the next couple of days.
btw, 50 miles from the Verranzon.