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Auctions croak here October 6th 03 06:35 PM

(Twistedhed) wrote in message ...
From:
(Frank Gilliland)
In , jim wrote:
... the freq cops may disagree but they have, in their misguided
attempts, done more to stifle "Citizens Band' radio proliferation by
saying what should not be done instead of how can we help.

That's just a load of hogwash. Eitner, Toll, and the rest of the
voodoo-techies have done nothing but set the state of radio technology
back nearly a century, redeveloped it using very little education, and
created a whole lot of RF mythology to explain what their lack of
education can't. What "RF cops" have done is to let people know that
watts are not nearly as important as mode, antenna efficiency, receive
noise, etc; that a Class C amp isn't linear,

(snip)




That's a load of hogwash. What "RF cops" have done, is call people
names, lie, and make all sorts of things up about the FCC making busts
to the official observer program making busts and having NAL's issued by
the FCC for their efforts. And get this,,those involved with such
programs and "emergency communications" are some of the largest lying
lids on this group when it comes to cb, only they need shown their lies,
as they don't all admit to their repeated lying as you were forced to
admit.
Skip was absolutely outstanding this past weekend. International DX on
eleven meterall weekend long and I KNOW there was plenty of power being
run on the bands..from the 35 division to,,ah,I don't wanna start your
week out on your clubbed, ,,er, wrong foot. If you can't handle such
public topics without something unbalanced in your psyche rendering you
incapable, perhaps you should do away with yourself...LOL. Just glancing
at your posts illustrates your inner anger responsible for your
inability to hold yourself together. Poor, excitable boy.


Go suck a dick, you cum slurping piece of faggot ****

Steveo October 6th 03 07:25 PM

(Auctions croak here) wrote:
Go suck a dick, you cum slurping piece of faggot ****

Let me be the first to congratulate you on your new group, dogie.

alt.dogie.is.an.idiot is where you should always post.

--
http://NewsReader.Com/
50 GB/Month

jim October 7th 03 12:41 AM



Frank Gilliland wrote:
In , jim wrote:


.... the freq cops may disagree but they have, in their
misguided attempts, done more to stifle "Citizens Band' radio
proliferation by saying what should not be done instead of how can we
help.



That's just a load of hogwash. Eitner, Toll, and the rest of the voodoo-techies
have done nothing but set the state of radio technology back nearly a century,
redeveloped it using very little education, and created a whole lot of RF
mythology to explain what their lack of education can't. What "RF cops" have
done is to let people know that watts are not nearly as important as mode,
antenna efficiency, receive noise, etc; that a Class C amp isn't linear, but
makes a good splatter-box; that the length of your coax is important only if you
have a grounding problem; that "Bird watts" is a term without a definition; that
'swang' and overmodulation cause harmonics, wasting RF power by sending it out
on the wrong frequency; that overmodulation also distorts audio by making it
louder but less intelligible; that distortion from dirty amps can cause RFI in
all kinds of stuff, including cordless phones, home stereos, hospital equipment,
emergency communications, and even automotive electronic systems.... do I need
to continue?


actually yes frank. your points are well received by those who have to
wade through the crap that permeates this board. just because you
disagree with the above named 'voodo techs' at least you were exercising
what this place should be about.


hey george, dougie and your cadre what have you brought to the
table beside homo related posts???????????????



Why don't you put the same question to Hypocrite Landshark, Dickhed Cranium, gw,
etc, etc? There are trolls on both sides, and I'll bet that most of them swing
both ways under different identities just to stir up trouble.

why do you propogate the nonsense by name calling. thought you were
affiliated with a school. is this what you impress upon your students if
indeed you are an instructor/teacher/mentor?










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Richard Cranium October 7th 03 01:54 AM

(Citizens For A Keyclown Free Environment) wrote in message . com...
jim wrote in message ...
Miles wrote:


Galaxyelc wrote:

What a mess this board has become,used to get good information
here,you guys
can have it!!!


Yep. Unbelievable the amount of trash talk going on. If they're gonna
trash talk at least put some intelligent wit into it for some good laughs.


this ng has been attracting flames for years. agreed there use to be
some good tech discussions but people like b. eitner, a powers, sean et
al saw what this was and found their points of views only attracted
frequency cops. the freq cops may disagree but they have, in their
misguided attempts, done more to stifle "Citizens Band' radio
proliferation by saying what should not be done instead of how can we
help. hey george, dougie and your cadre what have you brought to the
table beside homo related posts???????????????



Shut up you cum eating faggot.


And another truly intelligent response from DouGay Adairierre N8WWM,
in Toledo, Ohio. He can never post anything but lame sexual crap
because that's all he's interested in. Too bad this known repeater
jammer has a ham license!

Frank Gilliland October 7th 03 09:09 AM

In , jim wrote:



Frank Gilliland wrote:

snip
Why don't you put the same question to Hypocrite Landshark, Dickhed Cranium, gw,
etc, etc? There are trolls on both sides, and I'll bet that most of them swing
both ways under different identities just to stir up trouble.

why do you propogate the nonsense by name calling.


What does it matter which name I use for someone that posts anonymously?
It doesn't.

thought you were
affiliated with a school.


Quite a few years ago....

is this what you impress upon your students if
indeed you are an instructor/teacher/mentor?


My students all knew my name, and I knew all of their names. And there were a
few things I constantly reinforced:

1. Think for yourself. In your post you stated the opinion that techs like Toll
and Eitner left because of pressure from the "frequency cops". Is that -your-
opinion, or is it someone else's opinion with which you agree?

2. Think logically. You have been reading the newsgroup for a while, and by now
you should have seen that I have been involved in plenty of legal discussions.
Does that make me a "frequency cop"? Well, you should have also noticed that I
have taken part in many technical discussions, some of which dealt with the
quality of amps -- IOW, I have provided info on how CBers can tell a good amp
from a bad amp. If I was a "frequency cop", why would I do that?

3. Verify the facts. The facts are that CBers in this newgroup talk about CB,
and the rest are trolls. They are not keyclowns, they are not AKC, they are not
freebanders or frequency cops. They are trolls. As for the voodoo-techs, they
left not because of opposition to their legal position, but because they were
publically spanked for spewing their ridiculous techno-babble.

4. Never assume. When you agree with someone's opinion without verifying the
facts and logic supporting that opinion, you are assuming that someone else has
already done so. Many times (if not most of the time) that is not the case. And
it's NEVER the case with Twistedhed's opinions.

5. Safety.






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Frank Gilliland October 7th 03 09:10 AM

In ,
(Twistedhed) wrote:

From:
(Frank*Gilliland)
In , jim wrote:
... the freq cops may disagree but they have, in their misguided
attempts, done more to stifle "Citizens Band' radio proliferation by
saying what should not be done instead of how can we help.
_
That's just a load of hogwash. Eitner, Toll, and the rest of the
voodoo-techies have done nothing but set the state of radio technology
back nearly a century, redeveloped it using very little education, and
created a whole lot of RF mythology to explain what their lack of
education can't. What "RF cops" have done is to let people know that
watts are not nearly as important as mode, antenna efficiency, receive
noise, etc; that a Class C amp isn't linear,

(snip)


I suppose that you are still going to whine if I snip -your- posts, right?

__

That's a load of hogwash. What "RF cops" have done, is call people
names, lie, and make all sorts of things up about the FCC making busts
to the official observer program making busts and having NAL's issued by
the FCC for their efforts. And get this,,those involved with such
programs and "emergency communications" are some of the largest lying
lids on this group when it comes to cb, only they need shown their lies,
as they don't all admit to their repeated lying as you were forced to
admit.


Wow, you really have issues with the hammies, don't you? Maybe you shouldn't
renew your own license when it expires! And it kinda makes me want to get one
even more!!!

Skip was absolutely outstanding this past weekend.


I'm sure he was. He hasn't posted much lately, so when you see him again why
don't you ask him why sequenced relays are "bad news". Or maybe you could get
him to describe his "larger picture" explanation in a little more technical
detail. After all, he wasn't driven off the group because of his technical
incompetence, but because of "frequency cops", right?

International DX on
eleven meterall weekend long and I KNOW there was plenty of power being
run on the bands..from the 35 division to,,ah,I don't wanna start your
week out on your clubbed, ,,er, wrong foot. If you can't handle such
public topics without something unbalanced in your psyche rendering you
incapable, perhaps you should do away with yourself...LOL. Just glancing
at your posts illustrates your inner anger responsible for your
inability to hold yourself together. Poor, excitable boy.


You're tripping on 'shrooms again, Twist.





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Citizens For A Keyclown Free Environment October 7th 03 01:40 PM

(Richard Cranium) wrote in message . com...
(Citizens For A Keyclown Free Environment) wrote in message . com...
jim wrote in message ...
Miles wrote:


Galaxyelc wrote:

What a mess this board has become,used to get good information
here,you guys
can have it!!!


Yep. Unbelievable the amount of trash talk going on. If they're gonna
trash talk at least put some intelligent wit into it for some good laughs.


this ng has been attracting flames for years. agreed there use to be
some good tech discussions but people like b. eitner, a powers, sean et
al saw what this was and found their points of views only attracted
frequency cops. the freq cops may disagree but they have, in their
misguided attempts, done more to stifle "Citizens Band' radio
proliferation by saying what should not be done instead of how can we
help. hey george, dougie and your cadre what have you brought to the
table beside homo related posts???????????????



Shut up you cum eating faggot.


And another truly intelligent response from DouGay Adairierre N8WWM,
in Toledo, Ohio. He can never post anything but lame sexual crap
because that's all he's interested in. Too bad this known repeater
jammer has a ham license!


Shut up you cum eating faggot.

Citizens For A Keyclown Free Environment October 7th 03 01:45 PM

Steveo wrote in message ...
(Auctions croak here) wrote:
Go suck a dick, you cum slurping piece of faggot ****

Let me be the first to congratulate you on your new group, dogie.

alt.dogie.is.an.idiot is where you should always post.


Let me be the first to congratulate you on your new ISP. Now, shut up
you cum eating faggot.

jim October 7th 03 11:09 PM



Frank Gilliland wrote:
In , jim wrote:



Frank Gilliland wrote:


snip

Why don't you put the same question to Hypocrite Landshark, Dickhed Cranium, gw,
etc, etc? There are trolls on both sides, and I'll bet that most of them swing
both ways under different identities just to stir up trouble.


why do you propogate the nonsense by name calling.



What does it matter which name I use for someone that posts anonymously?
It doesn't.


thought you were
affiliated with a school.



Quite a few years ago....


is this what you impress upon your students if
indeed you are an instructor/teacher/mentor?



My students all knew my name, and I knew all of their names. And there were a
few things I constantly reinforced:

1. Think for yourself. In your post you stated the opinion that techs like Toll
and Eitner left because of pressure from the "frequency cops". Is that -your-
opinion, or is it someone else's opinion with which you agree?


more like they left due to the personal flame wars and general crap that
was flying around here. noticed you didn't mention amor powers. do you
recall her posts?


2. Think logically. You have been reading the newsgroup for a while, and by now
you should have seen that I have been involved in plenty of legal discussions.
Does that make me a "frequency cop"? Well, you should have also noticed that I
have taken part in many technical discussions, some of which dealt with the
quality of amps -- IOW, I have provided info on how CBers can tell a good amp
from a bad amp. If I was a "frequency cop", why would I do that?


can't argue about you posting helpful bits. its the twisty wars that
makes one wonder...

3. Verify the facts. The facts are that CBers in this newgroup talk about CB,
and the rest are trolls. They are not keyclowns, they are not AKC, they are not
freebanders or frequency cops. They are trolls. As for the voodoo-techs, they
left not because of opposition to their legal position, but because they were
publically spanked for spewing their ridiculous techno-babble.


publically spanked is a matter of conjecture here. see 1 above.


4. Never assume. When you agree with someone's opinion without verifying the
facts and logic supporting that opinion, you are assuming that someone else has
already done so. Many times (if not most of the time) that is not the case. And
it's NEVER the case with Twistedhed's opinions.

ignore him just as some people ignore the hateful homo posts.

5. Safety.

agreed






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Smell My ass October 7th 03 11:24 PM


"jim" wrote in message
...

more like they left due to the personal flame wars and general crap that
was flying around here. noticed you didn't mention amor powers. do you
recall her posts?


She was a him, or a shim rather




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