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Old October 18th 03, 07:20 AM
Dave VanHorn
 
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It's on cable this week.
I preferred the book, but the movie dosen't suck.
In the book, the deaders were being harvested for their organs.


PS: "The barbie murders" is another one that should have made it to the
movies.


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Old October 18th 03, 02:20 PM
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"Dave VanHorn" wrote in message ...
Not a damn thing. 10m radios are still perfectly legal for amateur use
in the 10m band, and always will be. They have never been legal
for use on CB.

Yawn. Old news. BFD.


From what I read, these were the "dual" ham and CB radios, which never could
be type accepted.

They would never be legal on the CB band, nor type accepted for sale in the
ham bands either.


I believe I stated (above) that these radios have never been legal
for use on CB. However, radios for amateur use do not require type
acceptance. Some of the Ranger units listed are marketed as amateur
radios, in amateur publications. Any use other than that is
(obviously) illegal.
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Old October 18th 03, 02:36 PM
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They would never be legal on the CB band, nor type accepted for sale in

the
ham bands either.


I believe I stated (above) that these radios have never been legal
for use on CB. However, radios for amateur use do not require type
acceptance. Some of the Ranger units listed are marketed as amateur
radios, in amateur publications. Any use other than that is
(obviously) illegal.


Nothing you build requires type acceptance, but if you are going to sell it
commercially, it must qualify.

Notice the ads for new radios where they state that it hasn't been FCC
approved etc etc.


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Old October 19th 03, 05:16 PM
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Um, 10 meters is dead till the next sunspot cycle. Sooooo, who cares?
"Jerry" wrote in message
...

"Twistedhed" wrote in message
...
This is news? I guess it may be to some, but it certainly isn't new
news. JerryO has been posting the information about truckstops getting
fined for the exact same thing over the past several years. In fact,
many outfits have been popped for selling illegal gear,,,,,what makes
this one stand out above the rest?


Well, not much. For some time FCC was (is) stymied by
glitches in the law that allowed such sales. The attorneys
for FCC (including RH, btw) have been working to fix this hole that the
dealers have been slipping thru. It doesn't however that these "busts"
won't continue or even
increase (I hope). They HAVE made *some* progress and (for example) Flying
J's I have gassed up at have removed the exports from the shelves. Now,

the
ones I
have visited stock only the Cobra line.

As for modifying ham rigs to operate on CB, believe it or not, *most* hams
don't even care if you do that; I don't!
The issue is to remove the offending, illegal radios from use on 10

Meters.
Keep 'em on the 40 channels, and it
becomes a moot point AFAIK.

Jerry





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Old October 19th 03, 07:26 PM
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Um, 10 meters is dead till the next sunspot cycle. Sooooo, who cares?


10 meters just had several openings. Welcome to the winter conditions.

(Open foot, insert mouth, toolz)


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Old October 19th 03, 08:28 PM
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HMMMM I'm listening to fast CW right now!! Doesn't sound "dead" to
me..............


J
"Radioman" wrote in message
...
Um, 10 meters is dead till the next sunspot cycle. Sooooo, who cares?



10 meters just had several openings. Welcome to the winter conditions.

(Open foot, insert mouth, toolz)



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Old October 19th 03, 08:50 PM
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Oh I'm sorry, I listen to 20 and 40. 10 just does not seem to be all that
active. Maybe my dial is broken?
"Radioman" wrote in message
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Um, 10 meters is dead till the next sunspot cycle. Sooooo, who cares?



10 meters just had several openings. Welcome to the winter conditions.

(Open foot, insert mouth, toolz)



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Old October 19th 03, 09:39 PM
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"Jerry" wrote in message
. ..
HMMMM I'm listening to fast CW right now!! Doesn't sound "dead" to
me..............


So............... phone interfiers with your CW?
J
"Radioman" wrote in message
...
Um, 10 meters is dead till the next sunspot cycle. Sooooo, who cares?



10 meters just had several openings. Welcome to the winter conditions.

(Open foot, insert mouth, toolz)





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Old October 20th 03, 02:35 AM
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"Bandit" wrote in message
m...
The FCC has finally closed the "export" radio loophole and has made its

first
bust. The case is still pending. Read section 6 of the citation

carefully.

Could this be the end?

Bandit



Before the
FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION
Washington, D.C. 20554


Mr. David P. Pace, Jr. d.b.a. File No.: EB-03-
DL-143
Pacetronics Sent via
Certified
Pace Marketing Return Receipt
Requested
531-C East Main Street and First Class
U.S. Mail
Nacogdoches, TX 75963


CITATION

Released: July 7, 2003
By the Enforcement Bureau, Dallas Office:

1. This is an Official Citation issued pursuant to Section
503(b)(5) of the Communications Act of 1934, as amended (``Act''),1
to Mr. David P. Pace, Jr. d.b.a. Pacetronics / Pace Marketing for
violation of Section 302(b) of the Act,2 and Section 2.803(a)(1) of
the Commission's Rules.3

2. An investigation by the FCC's Dallas Office revealed that the
Internet domain name PACERADIOS.COM is registered to Pace
Marketing, David Pace, P.O. Box 631207, Nacogdoches, TX 75963 with
Pace Marketing, David Pace listed as the administrative contact.
Furthermore, on June 30, 2003, Mr. David P. Pace, Jr. d.b.a.
Pacetronics / Pace Marketing through its Internet site(s)
www.paceradios.com (with an addresses listed on the site as Pace
Marketing, 531-C East Main St, Nacogdoches, TX 75961 and Pace
Marketing, P.O. Box 631207, Nacogdoches, TX 75961) offered for
sale, the following thirty seven (37) non-certified Citizens Band
transceivers:

NAME MODEL PRICE DESCRIPTION
Connex 4800 DXL $289.99 12 Bands of 40 Channels
Connex 4400 High Power $219.99 8 Bands
of 40 Channels
Connex 3300 High Power $199.99 Range
25.615 - 28.305
Connex 3300 $179.99 Range 25.615 - 28.305
Connex Patriot $199.99 Range 25.615 - 28.305
Connex Deer Hunter $139.99 Can be converted to
operate on 120 Chan.
Connex 3300 LE $179.99 Range 25.615 - 28.305
Connex 3300 HP LE $199.99 Range 25.615 - 28.305
Connex 3300 Coyote Hunter $169.99 . . . CB
band, with . . . 120 channels below
Galaxy DX99V $329.99 Robot Talk, Voice Changer
Galaxy DX 93T $429.99 Echo with dual controls
Galaxy DX88HL $314.99 Dual-Control Echo,
Talkback
Galaxy DX77HML $219.99 6 bands of 40Ch.
Galaxy DX66V $234.99 Dual Control Echo,
Talkback
Galaxy DX55V $164.99 equipped as an ideal
multi-band radio
NAME MODEL PRICE DESCRIPTION
Galaxy 48T $369.99 Deluxe Export Radio
Galaxy DX45-MP $249.99 Export Radios
Galaxy DX44V $189.99 Dual control echo/reverb
Galaxy DX33HML $159.99 dual control echo/reverb,
Talkback
General Lee $199.99 6 Bands of 40 Channels
General A.P. Hill $169.99 6 Bands of 40 Channels
General Grant $399.99 12 Bands of 40 Channels
? ? ?
General Longstreet $229.99 6 Bands of 40 Channels
Magnum 257 $179.99 10 bands of channels
Ranger 6900F-25 $289.99 . . . 12-band segments
Ranger 6900F-150 $409.99 . . . 24.2650 - 29.6650
MHz
Ranger 6900FTB-refurbished $369.99 Export
Radios
Ranger 6300F-25 $269.99 . . . 12-band segments
Ranger 6300F-150 $389.99 Export Radios
Ranger 2995DX $549.99 Export Base Station
Ranger 2985DX $439.99 Export Base Station
Ranger 2980WX $409.99 Export Base Station
Ranger 2970DX $399.99 Export Radios
Ranger 2950DX $269.99 Export Radios
Superstar 3900HP-Gold $239.99 6 Bands 240 Channels
Superstar Grant $179.99 120 Channels
Superstar 121 $129.99 CB features...with...Upper
and Lower Freq


According to the Commission's records, these devices have not
received an FCC equipment authorization which is required for
Citizens Band transmitters marketed in the United States.

3. Section 302(b) of the Act2 provides ``[n]o person shall
manufacture, import, sell, offer for sale, or ship devices or home
electronic equipment and systems, or use devices, which fail to
comply with regulations promulgated pursuant to this section.''
Section 2.803(a)(1) of the Rules3 provides that ``... no person
shall sell or lease, or offer for sale or lease (including
advertising for sale or lease), or import, ship or distribute for
the purpose of selling or leasing or offering for sale or lease,
any radio frequency device unless: (1) In the case of a device
subject to certification, such device has been authorized by the
Commission in accordance with the rules in this chapter and is
properly identified and labeled ....'' Mr. David P. Pace, Jr.
d.b.a. Pacetronics / Pace Marketing's offer for sale of these
devices violates both sections.

4. Mr. David P. Pace, Jr. d.b.a. Pacetronics / Pace Marketing
marketed these devices as amateur transceivers. The Commission has
evaluated radiofrequency devices similar to those listed in
paragraph 2 and concluded that the devices at issue are not only
amateur radios but can easily be altered for use as Citizens Band
devices as well. A CB transmitter is a transmitter that operates
or is intended to operate at a station authorized for the CB
service, and it must be certificated by the FCC prior to marketing
or importation.4 The Commission has further concluded that these
devices fall within the definition of a CB transmitter and
therefore cannot legally be imported or marketed in the United
States. See Response from the Commission's General Counsel to U.S.
Customs Service dated May 17, 1999, 14 FCC Rcd 7797 (1999).

5. Additionally, dual use CB and amateur radios of the kind at
issue here may not be certificated under the Commission's rules.
Section 95.655(a) of the rules5 states: ``. . . . ([CB]
Transmitters with frequency capability for the Amateur Radio
Services . . . . will not be certificated.)'' See also FCC 88-256,
1988 WL 488084 (August 17, 1988). This clarification was added to
explicitly foreclose the possibility of certification of dual use
CB and amateur radios, see id., and thereby deter use by CB
operators of frequencies allocated for amateur radio use.

6. Furthermore, the Commission has revised Section 2.1204(a)(5)
of its rules6 to prohibit all marketing and/or offering for sale in
the United States of such devices even when the purchaser(s) had
provided assurances that the transceivers are being bought solely
for export. ALL DOMESTIC MARKETING OF SUCH DEVICES VIOLATES THE
COMMUNICATIONS ACT OF 1934, AS AMENDED, AND THE COMMISSION'S RULES.

7. In addition to the marketing of the non-certified transceivers
addressed above, Mr. David P. Pace, Jr. d.b.a. Pacetronics / Pace
Marketing is warned that Section 302(b) of the Act2, and Section
2.815(c) of the Commission's Rules7 requires FCC Type Acceptance
(or Certification) of External Radio Frequency Power Amplifiers (or
amplifier kits) capable of operation on any frequency or
frequencies below 144 MHz. Furthermore, Section 2.815(b) of the
Commission's Rules8 prohibits the marketing of External Radio
Frequency Power Amplifiers (or amplifier kits) capable of operation
on any frequency or frequencies between 24 and 35 MHz.

8. Subsequent violations of the Communications Act and/or of the
Commission's Rules may subject the violator to substantial monetary
forfeitures not to exceed $11,000 for each such violation or each
day of a continuing violation,9 seizure of equipment through in rem
forfeiture action, and criminal sanctions including imprisonment.10

9. Mr. David P. Pace, Jr. d.b.a. Pacetronics / Pace Marketing may
request a personal interview at the closest FCC location to its
place of business,11 namely:

Federal Communications Commission
9330 LBJ Freeway, Suite 1170
Dallas, Texas 75243-3470

which can be contacted by telephone at 214-575-6361. They must
schedule this interview to take place within 14 days of the date of
this citation. Mr. David P. Pace, Jr. d.b.a. Pacetronics / Pace
Marketing may submit a written statement within 14 days of the date
of this Citation to the same address. Any written statement should
specify what actions have been taken to correct the violation
outlined above. When corresponding with the Commission, case
number EB-03-DL-143 should be referenced.
10. Any statement or information provided may be used by the
Commission to determine if further enforcement action is
required.12 Any knowingly or willfully false statement made in
reply to this notice is punishable by fine or imprisonment.13
FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS
COMMISSION



James D. Wells
District Director - Dallas
Office
LRB

Cc:Mr. David P. Pace, Jr. d.b.a.
Pacetronics
Pace Marketing
P.O. Box 631207
Nacogdoches, TX 75963
_________________________

1 47 U.S.C. § 503(b)(5)
2 47 U.S.C. § 302a(b)
3 47 C.F.R. § 2.803(a)(1)
4 See 47 C.F.R. §§ 95.603(c) & 2.803
5 47 C.F.R. § 95.655(a)
6 47 C.F.R. § 2.1204(a)(5) revised effective February 28, 2000
7 47 C.F.R. § 2.815(c)
8 47 C.F.R. § 2.815(b)
9 See 47 C.F.R. § 1.80(b)(3)
10 See 47 U.S.C. §§ 401, 501, 503, 510
11 See 47 U.S.C. § 503(b)(5)
12 See Privacy Act of 1974, 5 U.S.C. §552a(e)(3)
13 See 18 U.S.C. §1001


According to ARNewsline, they are going after more than
dealers. This guy, a ham, should know better.


ENFORCEMENT: AMATEUR TOLD TO KEEP HAM GEAR OFF CB


The FCC has written to James Perryman, KC8KOU, of Toledo Ohio. This,
regarding continued complaints involving his alleged operation of
non type accepted radio gear on the 11 meter band. Again, the FCC's
Daryl Duckworth, NN0W:


--


Duckworth: "The letter went on to say that the operation of non-
certified equipment on CB frequencies, such as Amateur equipment and
linear amplifiers will result in a monetary forfeiture in the $7500
to $10,000 area, as well as the in-reim seizure of all non-certified
equipment in cooperation with the United States Attorney in his
jurisdiction."


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Old October 20th 03, 02:47 AM
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"Dave VanHorn" wrote in
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It does seem like a step in the right direction.


Amen.

It weakens all their regulatory efforts, when

they allow something like this
to continue for years.


It does prove when a group effort is made to
complain about a problem to the FCC that action
will sooner or later be taken. It took some years
for the Ham community asking the FCC to get rig of
the unlicensed 10m operators but they are finally
moving on the issue.

At best, it will get rid of the "off the shelf"

rigs, and force them to buy
ham rigs, or do it underground with mods.


It will go a LONG WAY to eliminate the ignorant
users, i.e. those who buy a radio with "extra"
channels all ready in them, from the
across-the-counter-dealers. This would be mostly
your typical truck-stop CB chop-shop.

Only some serious field enforcement will make an

impact on the use.

Check the truck drivers at the weight stations.
Find a non FCC aproved CB radio, and no Ham
ticket, give them a big fine and take the radio on
the spot. The truckers will get the word out, to
the general CB user population, that the ax is
coming down on the use of non FCC aproved radios
on 11m.


--
Leland C. Scott
KC8LDO

Saw this on a Tee-shirt:

"I am a
bomb
technician
if you see me
running
try to keep up "


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