On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 03:02:20 GMT, sideband was
blabbling:

....
....
....gw wrote:
....
.... oh come on sideband...surely you can forgive chuckie for being
the
.... dickhead that he is....????
....
....After the non-HAM way he treated me on-air? I think not. He's
nothing
....more than a (bad) CBer with a callsign,

Excuse me? I don't even have a remote clue as to who YOU even are!
They way I treated you on the air???? Now, Please fill me in on the
details! and before you start with your large SOB story as to how YOU
were wrong by big bad ol' Chuckie, Lemmie give ya something to chew
on, ok? You think I was treated with kid gloves when I first keyed a 2
Meter mic? (especially on the SMART Repeater locally here in Detroit!)
Heck no! I was slapped around like every other newbie in Ham Radio.
Now, am I saying that those people were right, No, Not at all. But do
you see me in here whining because someone might have not treating me
like I felt I should have been treated? No! Because it comes with the
territory!

I will say this, if it makes you feel any better, okay and Granted, I
don't know who you even are, now... If I said something to you, ON
AIR, that offended you, (and granted the Local 2 meter scene here in
Detroit is quite the interesting bunch, and has gotten worse over the
last few years, and is why I have removed my 2 meter radio out of my
personal Truck) I do wholeheartly apologize to you. I cannot go back
and erase the things I have done in the past. I wasn't always a "nice"
person on Amateur Radio. But I am man enough to say in a public forum
that I am sorry for offending you.



and by that I don't mean the
....regular CBer, who's generally a decent individual.. He's the kind
who
....would like to run those roger-beeps, overmodulated splatterboxes,
and
....who can't have a decent conversation with anyone because he's too
busy
....playing channel-master.

You seem to have quite an attitude problem. I think you've got
problems that go well beyond your hatred of me. Because quite
honestly, I cannot stand any of that stuff you described above. :-)



....
....No, I don't think I can forgive chuck. He embodies all that is NOT
a
....HAM, and thereby embarrasses the entire hobby.
....

Uhmmmm... Well, Considering you don't even come in here and say who
you REALLY are... your argument is valueless to me or anyone else. and
basing your judgement of me, on what you've seen in here and based on
a incident that happened years ago, is quite inmature and shallow if
you ask me. You don't know me, at all... This group is something I
read for a laugh. Not what I base my livelyhood on... or my outlook
on life.

..

...-SSB


Now Do tell, what's your name and your CALLSIGN???

Oh, chuckie... I was far from a newbie when you decided your call was
more important than my QSO after MIDCARS was shut down on 7.258
December last.. Of course, you won't remember it... your memory is
conveniently lacking when it comes to things of importance.

So, no, it wasn't on a 2M repeater, so you can just put that one to
rest.. It was on HF. I was trying to carry on a QSO with W8BUD, and
you decided to just hop on and call someone while I was transmitting.
Bud told me later that you didn't even bother to ask if the frequency
was clear. And, no, I'm certain my little 100W mobile didn't overtalk
you so that Bud couldn't hear your QRL. Not bloody likely.

You were slapped around? I'm not surprised, the way you disregard
common courtesy on the air.. And yes, you certainly embody everything
that is NOT a HAM, both on the air and on this newsgroup. Way to go,
Chuckles... Way to further the hobby.

As for the details above, if they haven't rung any bells, I'm most
certainly not surprised; such is life.

Suffice it to say, it ain't happening.

-SSB

Chuck K8CPA wrote:

On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 03:02:20 GMT, sideband was
blabbling:

...
...
...gw wrote:
...
... oh come on sideband...surely you can forgive chuckie for being
the
... dickhead that he is....????
...
...After the non-HAM way he treated me on-air? I think not. He's
nothing
...more than a (bad) CBer with a callsign,

Excuse me? I don't even have a remote clue as to who YOU even are!
They way I treated you on the air???? Now, Please fill me in on the
details! and before you start with your large SOB story as to how YOU
were wrong by big bad ol' Chuckie, Lemmie give ya something to chew
on, ok? You think I was treated with kid gloves when I first keyed a 2
Meter mic? (especially on the SMART Repeater locally here in Detroit!)
Heck no! I was slapped around like every other newbie in Ham Radio.
Now, am I saying that those people were right, No, Not at all. But do
you see me in here whining because someone might have not treating me
like I felt I should have been treated? No! Because it comes with the
territory!

I will say this, if it makes you feel any better, okay and Granted, I
don't know who you even are, now... If I said something to you, ON
AIR, that offended you, (and granted the Local 2 meter scene here in
Detroit is quite the interesting bunch, and has gotten worse over the
last few years, and is why I have removed my 2 meter radio out of my
personal Truck) I do wholeheartly apologize to you. I cannot go back
and erase the things I have done in the past. I wasn't always a "nice"
person on Amateur Radio. But I am man enough to say in a public forum
that I am sorry for offending you.




and by that I don't mean the

...regular CBer, who's generally a decent individual.. He's the kind
who
...would like to run those roger-beeps, overmodulated splatterboxes,
and
...who can't have a decent conversation with anyone because he's too
busy
...playing channel-master.

You seem to have quite an attitude problem. I think you've got
problems that go well beyond your hatred of me. Because quite
honestly, I cannot stand any of that stuff you described above. :-)



...
...No, I don't think I can forgive chuck. He embodies all that is NOT
a
...HAM, and thereby embarrasses the entire hobby.
...

Uhmmmm... Well, Considering you don't even come in here and say who
you REALLY are... your argument is valueless to me or anyone else. and
basing your judgement of me, on what you've seen in here and based on
a incident that happened years ago, is quite inmature and shallow if
you ask me. You don't know me, at all... This group is something I
read for a laugh. Not what I base my livelyhood on... or my outlook
on life.

.

..-SSB


Now Do tell, what's your name and your CALLSIGN???

From: (sideband)
Have people lost their senses completely?


Not all. Some arrived here already in that state.
_
What does hearing the word "****" have to do

with being a christian?
_
Nothing, really. BUT,, if it is used in a condescending manner, as an
insult, or intended to cause a negative connotation, most would probably
construe such as non-christian behavior.
_


How would it affect someone's morality? If it's

such a sin to hear a few curse words, then

why hasn't Chuck been called to Hell already,

what with HIS potty mouth?

-SSB
_
Agreed. Using the "F" word is not taking the lord's name in vain.

In ,
(Twistedhed) wrote:

snip
Using the "F" word is not taking the lord's name in vain.

Interesting topic, this "taking the lord's name in vain" issue. I have heard
lots of holy-rollers whine and cry when someone says "god damn". But what really
is god's name? Doesn't the bible say that god's name is unknowable? Like, when
Moses asked god for his name, all he got was, "I am". So if nobody knows the
name of god, how can anybody use it in vain?

You're a bible-thumper, Twist -- what do you think?






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From: (Frank=A0Gilliland)
In ,
(Twistedhed) wrote: snip
Using the "F" word is not taking the lord's name in vain.
_
Interesting topic, this "taking the lord's name in
vain" issue. I have heard lots of holy-rollers

whine and cry when someone says "god

damn". But what really is god's name? Doesn't
the bible say that god's name is unknowable?

Like, when Moses asked god for his name, all

he got was, "I am". So if nobody knows the

name of god, how can anybody use it in vain? _
By intentionally referring to the almighty..the term a mortal applies
is irrelevant.
_
You're a bible-thumper, Twist -- what do you

think?

I think some are in a sad state concerning God. Those who obviously are
in dire need of spiritual direction and refer to one who believes in the
God of Abraham as a "Bible-thumper",,,continue to produce the most
inaccurate posts regarding anything to date.

_
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In ,
(Twistedhed) wrote:

From: (Frank*Gilliland)
In ,
(Twistedhed) wrote: snip
Using the "F" word is not taking the lord's name in vain.
_
Interesting topic, this "taking the lord's name in
vain" issue. I have heard lots of holy-rollers

whine and cry when someone says "god

damn". But what really is god's name? Doesn't
the bible say that god's name is unknowable?

Like, when Moses asked god for his name, all

he got was, "I am". So if nobody knows the

name of god, how can anybody use it in vain? _
By intentionally referring to the almighty..the term a mortal applies
is irrelevant.

Your statement presupposes monotheism.

_
You're a bible-thumper, Twist -- what do you

think?

I think some are in a sad state concerning God.

Your response was just like I would expect from a bible-thumper.... you can't
accept the reality that the religious and/or spiritual 'state' of anyone else is
none of your concern. Nor is it your place to judge others based on the precepts
of your own personal beliefs, especially when you fail to live according to
those precepts...... remember your version of the "Golden Rule", Twist?

Those who obviously are
in dire need of spiritual direction and refer to one who believes in the
God of Abraham as a "Bible-thumper",,,continue to produce the most
inaccurate posts regarding anything to date.

Those who are overwhelmed by the realities of science and logic usually abandon
them in favor of the simplicity of religion. Those who are incapable of
accepting the responsibilities of their own actions seek adjudication from a
'higher power'. And, according to my visiting grand-nephew, "You go to church
when nobody likes you because the Bible says people who go to church -have- to
like you," which mirrors the observations made throughout history that religions
thrive on social rejects. Pretty god damn sharp for a 6 year old!






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Hello, gang.

This is a probably a hoax. The full version I saw also stated that the FCC
was going to prohibit any Christian broadcasting due to seperation of Church
and State. That is a known hoax, and I suspect that this was taken from
that hoax. Calm down, already



73 from Rochester, NY
Jim



"newbe_1957" wrote in message
m...
Look what this foul mouthed jerk is sending out

Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 8:44 AM
Subject: Fw: FCC's considering allowing increased vulgarity


Dear Brothers and Sisters in Christ and to my Amateur Radio
Freinds.

This message below was sent to me, by my Pastor of my
Church.

This is an outrage and needs to be stopped at all costs. If
everyone that receives this message would sit down and
write, type, scribble, whatever, A letter to the FCC at the
address given, we could wipe out this ruling. Being a
Licensed Amateur Radio Operator, I know that the FCC does
respond to public opinion... so, write a letter and PLEASE,
forward this on to every Christian Person you know! and you
Ham's forward this to every HAM YOU know! We must stop this
before it is too late. THIS IS NOT A CHAIN LETTER SCAM!!!
THIS IS A LEGIT THING FOLKS!!!!

Thanks for reading...

-Chuck Adkins K8CPA
Lincoln Park, Michigan




----- Original Message -----
From: "Pastor Pat Bossio Jr."
To:
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 4:22 PM
Subject: FCC's considering allowing increased vulgarity


Hey Chuck

I heard on WJR News that the Federal Communications
Commission was
considering allowing additional vulgar words on television
and radio. Words
that previously could never be aired and would most
certainly be offensive
to every believing christian and moral family in America.
It is time for
Americans to stand up for decency and the protection of
the children
entrusted to our care.

Can we get the word out that written opposition to this
outrageous offense
should be directed to:

W. KENNETH FERREE
MEDIA BUREAU CHIEF
FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION
445 12TH STREET SOUTHWEST
WASHINGTON, DC 20554

I personally called them at 888-225-5322 (pressing option
4 then 0 for
operator) and had this information confirmed. Even the
operator said she
was disappointed in the FCC.

The time to act is now before we are bombarded with more
offensive
profanity being shouted into our homes,vehicles,lives, and
little
ones.Letters are the only official way to record our voice
but people can
call the toll free number and let the operator know how
they feel.

Jim Hampton wrote:
Hello, gang.

This is a probably a hoax. The full version I saw also stated that the FCC
was going to prohibit any Christian broadcasting due to seperation of Church
and State. That is a known hoax, and I suspect that this was taken from
that hoax. Calm down, already



73 from Rochester, NY
Jim



"newbe_1957" wrote in message
m...

Look what this foul mouthed jerk is sending out

Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 8:44 AM

Subject: Fw: FCC's considering allowing increased vulgarity



Dear Brothers and Sisters in Christ and to my Amateur Radio
Freinds.

This message below was sent to me, by my Pastor of my
Church.

This is an outrage and needs to be stopped at all costs. If
everyone that receives this message would sit down and
write, type, scribble, whatever, A letter to the FCC at the
address given, we could wipe out this ruling. Being a
Licensed Amateur Radio Operator, I know that the FCC does
respond to public opinion... so, write a letter and PLEASE,
forward this on to every Christian Person you know! and you
Ham's forward this to every HAM YOU know! We must stop this
before it is too late. THIS IS NOT A CHAIN LETTER SCAM!!!
THIS IS A LEGIT THING FOLKS!!!!

Thanks for reading...

-Chuck Adkins K8CPA
Lincoln Park, Michigan




----- Original Message -----
From: "Pastor Pat Bossio Jr."
To:
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 4:22 PM
Subject: FCC's considering allowing increased vulgarity



Hey Chuck

I heard on WJR News that the Federal Communications

Commission was

considering allowing additional vulgar words on television

and radio. Words

that previously could never be aired and would most

certainly be offensive

to every believing christian and moral family in America.

It is time for

Americans to stand up for decency and the protection of

the children

entrusted to our care.

Can we get the word out that written opposition to this

outrageous offense

should be directed to:

W. KENNETH FERREE
MEDIA BUREAU CHIEF
FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION
445 12TH STREET SOUTHWEST
WASHINGTON, DC 20554

I personally called them at 888-225-5322 (pressing option

4 then 0 for

operator) and had this information confirmed. Even the

operator said she

was disappointed in the FCC.

The time to act is now before we are bombarded with more

offensive

profanity being shouted into our homes,vehicles,lives, and

little

ones.Letters are the only official way to record our voice

but people can

call the toll free number and let the operator know how

they feel.




maybe so jim though chuckie is known for spouting off to turn attention
to himself...

Thank you very much to Greg N8EIO or Criss W8CH, or WB8BFS Jack for
posting a private e-mail of mine to a public forum... I know it has to
be one of you three. your the only one's have had troubles with in the
past on Ham Radio.


I should have known better sent it to you chuckleheads.

Bunch of disgusting LOSERS!

And FWIW, I have a job, a very good paying job. and will be moving OUT
of THIS house and moving another House, of my OWN, and....Dare I say
it?..... GETTING MARRIED!

So, you LOSERS can BITE ME!

73 to the troll farm...

-Chuck K8CPA





On 30 Oct 2003 13:57:55 -0800, (newbe_1957) was
blabbling:

....Look what this foul mouthed jerk is sending out
....
....Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 8:44 AM
.... Subject: Fw: FCC's considering allowing increased vulgarity
....
....
.... Dear Brothers and Sisters in Christ and to my Amateur Radio
.... Freinds.
....
.... This message below was sent to me, by my Pastor of my
.... Church.
....
.... This is an outrage and needs to be stopped at all costs. If
.... everyone that receives this message would sit down and
.... write, type, scribble, whatever, A letter to the FCC at the
.... address given, we could wipe out this ruling. Being a
.... Licensed Amateur Radio Operator, I know that the FCC does
.... respond to public opinion... so, write a letter and PLEASE,
.... forward this on to every Christian Person you know! and you
.... Ham's forward this to every HAM YOU know! We must stop this
.... before it is too late. THIS IS NOT A CHAIN LETTER SCAM!!!
.... THIS IS A LEGIT THING FOLKS!!!!
....
.... Thanks for reading...
....
.... -Chuck Adkins K8CPA
.... Lincoln Park, Michigan
....
....
....
....
.... ----- Original Message -----
.... From: "Pastor Pat Bossio Jr."
.... To:
.... Cc:
.... Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 4:22 PM
.... Subject: FCC's considering allowing increased vulgarity
....
....
.... Hey Chuck
....
.... I heard on WJR News that the Federal Communications
.... Commission was
.... considering allowing additional vulgar words on television
.... and radio. Words
.... that previously could never be aired and would most
.... certainly be offensive
.... to every believing christian and moral family in America.
.... It is time for
.... Americans to stand up for decency and the protection of
.... the children
.... entrusted to our care.
....
.... Can we get the word out that written opposition to this
.... outrageous offense
.... should be directed to:
....
.... W. KENNETH FERREE
.... MEDIA BUREAU CHIEF
.... FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION
.... 445 12TH STREET SOUTHWEST
.... WASHINGTON, DC 20554
....
.... I personally called them at 888-225-5322 (pressing option
.... 4 then 0 for
.... operator) and had this information confirmed. Even the
.... operator said she
.... was disappointed in the FCC.
....
.... The time to act is now before we are bombarded with more
.... offensive
.... profanity being shouted into our homes,vehicles,lives, and
.... little
.... ones.Letters are the only official way to record our voice
.... but people can
.... call the toll free number and let the operator know how
.... they feel.

Well, Doing a TRACEROUTE on the IP address of the poster of the
message:



Trying to open SSH connection to router: box02rsm-en01-f4-0.twdx.net
(65.116.132.200)
System is online. Pipelining termsession.....pipelined.
Now starting traceroute, pipe 1 engaged

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0 msec
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Pipe 1 disengaged. session is terminating, cleaning up...

============================

Bryon, Ohio. Now interesting... Who do I know in Byron, Ohio?

Trust me, I KNOW who posted it. He's a guy that get's on 3.865 in the
mornings.... but because I don't want no trouble with the old duffer,
I'll leave it alone. The old fool needs to get a grip. I could unleash
a firestorm on him and say who he is... But being I'm a bit more
mature than that. I won't.

Apologies to WB8BFS, N8EIO and W8CH, although, I have little use for
N8EIO as he was the one who forwarded it to this guy.

Cut the crap Marvin. is all I am saying...

73 to all,

-Chuck K8CPA

P.S. Marvin what's your code speed up to?


















On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:41:36 -0500, Chuck K8CPA was
blabbling:

....Thank you very much to Greg N8EIO or Criss W8CH, or WB8BFS Jack for
....posting a private e-mail of mine to a public forum... I know it has
to
....be one of you three. your the only one's have had troubles with in
the
....past on Ham Radio.
....
....
....I should have known better sent it to you chuckleheads.
....
....Bunch of disgusting LOSERS!
....
....And FWIW, I have a job, a very good paying job. and will be moving
OUT
....of THIS house and moving another House, of my OWN, and....Dare I
say
....it?..... GETTING MARRIED!
....
....So, you LOSERS can BITE ME!
....
....73 to the troll farm...
....
....-Chuck K8CPA
....
....
....
....
....
....On 30 Oct 2003 13:57:55 -0800, (newbe_1957)
was
....blabbling:
....
.......Look what this foul mouthed jerk is sending out
.......
.......Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 8:44 AM
....... Subject: Fw: FCC's considering allowing increased vulgarity
.......
.......
....... Dear Brothers and Sisters in Christ and to my Amateur Radio
....... Freinds.
.......
....... This message below was sent to me, by my Pastor of my
....... Church.
.......
....... This is an outrage and needs to be stopped at all costs. If
....... everyone that receives this message would sit down and
....... write, type, scribble, whatever, A letter to the FCC at the
....... address given, we could wipe out this ruling. Being a
....... Licensed Amateur Radio Operator, I know that the FCC does
....... respond to public opinion... so, write a letter and PLEASE,
....... forward this on to every Christian Person you know! and you
....... Ham's forward this to every HAM YOU know! We must stop this
....... before it is too late. THIS IS NOT A CHAIN LETTER SCAM!!!
....... THIS IS A LEGIT THING FOLKS!!!!
.......
....... Thanks for reading...
.......
....... -Chuck Adkins K8CPA
....... Lincoln Park, Michigan
.......
.......
.......
.......
....... ----- Original Message -----
....... From: "Pastor Pat Bossio Jr."
....... To:
....... Cc:
....... Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 4:22 PM
....... Subject: FCC's considering allowing increased vulgarity
.......
.......
....... Hey Chuck
.......
....... I heard on WJR News that the Federal Communications
....... Commission was
....... considering allowing additional vulgar words on television
....... and radio. Words
....... that previously could never be aired and would most
....... certainly be offensive
....... to every believing christian and moral family in America.
....... It is time for
....... Americans to stand up for decency and the protection of
....... the children
....... entrusted to our care.
.......
....... Can we get the word out that written opposition to this
....... outrageous offense
....... should be directed to:
.......
....... W. KENNETH FERREE
....... MEDIA BUREAU CHIEF
....... FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION
....... 445 12TH STREET SOUTHWEST
....... WASHINGTON, DC 20554
.......
....... I personally called them at 888-225-5322 (pressing option
....... 4 then 0 for
....... operator) and had this information confirmed. Even the
....... operator said she
....... was disappointed in the FCC.
.......
....... The time to act is now before we are bombarded with more
....... offensive
....... profanity being shouted into our homes,vehicles,lives, and
....... little
....... ones.Letters are the only official way to record our voice
....... but people can
....... call the toll free number and let the operator know how
....... they feel.