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Frank Gilliland November 5th 03 06:33 AM

In , jim wrote:

snip
I should never have posted... neither one of you two are totally innocent.
have to admit though the group has had some decent threads recently.
still have the gay bashing which is as old as an 8080 processor...


Hey, in the garage I've got two Apple IIE's, a CoCo 2, two Commodore 64's, a
VIC-20, and my very first computer.... yes, an original TRS-80 complete with
cassette deck and half-round printer!








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Steveo November 5th 03 06:40 AM

Frank Gilliland wrote:
In , jim wrote:

snip
I should never have posted... neither one of you two are totally
innocent. have to admit though the group has had some decent threads
recently. still have the gay bashing which is as old as an 8080
processor...


Hey, in the garage I've got two Apple IIE's, a CoCo 2, two Commodore
64's, a VIC-20, and my very first computer.... yes, an original TRS-80
complete with cassette deck and half-round printer!

A - High Tech Washington Red Neck. HTWRN

charlesb November 5th 03 11:40 AM


"Landshark" wrote in message
m...

Landshark: Are you the one who was knocking at our door last night, saying
"Candygram" in a muffled voice when we asked who it was?

Charles Brabham, N5PVL



N8WWM November 5th 03 01:20 PM

Please try to keep it in your pants, Rev Brabham. Beat your wife
lately?

In article , charlesb says...


"Landshark" wrote in message
om...

Landshark: Are you the one who was knocking at our door last night, saying
"Candygram" in a muffled voice when we asked who it was?

Charles Brabham, N5PVL




N8WWM November 5th 03 01:25 PM

In article , Neil Down says...

jim wrote in :



Steveo wrote:
Neil Down wrote:

Has doug been fined? Ill answer for you a resounding
NO!


So by your reasoning, unless you're fined you're innocent.

That's odd coming from the re.radio.cb legal police. What about
all the keyclown name calling? No fine means innocent in your book$.

So until you produce evidence of fines, that the regular posters in
rec.radio.cb , have been charged with, please STFU.


makes sense...




to an ignoramous

True. I come from a long line of ignoramous's and it makes perfect sense to me.


Landshark November 5th 03 02:32 PM


"Steveo" wrote in message
...
Frank Gilliland wrote:
In , jim wrote:

snip
I should never have posted... neither one of you two are totally
innocent. have to admit though the group has had some decent threads
recently. still have the gay bashing which is as old as an 8080
processor...


Hey, in the garage I've got two Apple IIE's, a CoCo 2, two Commodore
64's, a VIC-20, and my very first computer.... yes, an original TRS-80
complete with cassette deck and half-round printer!

A - High Tech Washington Red Neck. HTWRN


Maybe Smithsonian Northwest?

Landshark


--
Hard things are put in our way,
not to stop us, but to call out our
courage and strength.



Dee D. Flint November 5th 03 11:48 PM


"Jerry Oxendine" wrote in message
. ..

jim wrote in message
...


Brenda Ann wrote:
"jim" wrote in message
...



actually a good point. if i were to use the freq's the u.s. gov said i

can
then what is the problem with slipping +/- 5kc's between 'channels'?

is
that freebanding?


The frequencies that the US govt. says you can are those specific
frequencies that constitute the 40 standard CB channels. The distance

away
from the center of any channel is tightly regulated, and you can't be

more
than 0.005% away from that center (~1.3 KHz), which is actually pretty

broad
when compared to say, broadcast AM, which is only allowed a 20 Hz

leeway).


that is what the u.s. gov proclaims. my point is they have no say so
outside territorial waters. whether or not the gov abides by itu
standards on this matter is open.


The fact is the US Govt HAS signed on with ITU and honors *most* treaties.


better yet, who the hell is the u.s. gov to tell me what is legal or
not?


If you are a US citizen, they are granted that right by the

constitution,
and by treaty.


please point out the constitutional section you mentioned.


Title 47, US Code and The Communications Act of 1934 voted upon by
Congress.


There is a major difference between Federal laws and the Constitution. The
references that you cite are NOT sections of the Constitution. Please
retake your civics and political science classes.



Brainbuster November 6th 03 07:24 AM

Brenda Ann wrote in message ...

The UK Radio Authority is much more
harsh than the FCC.



Sorry, but I have to disagree.

Even at the height of CB, when 100s of thousands of people were running
illegal CB in one way or another, the yearly "bust" figures were just into
double digits - it has remained in the 20s and 30s.

Most illegal CBers get ignored, some get a "Please don't do that" verbal
warning, some may get a written warning,.
So, what do the very few big busts get... £1000s in fines? Prison?
No... a couple of hundred pound fine if any - and the illegal equipment
snatched.

If the RA were "harsh", they would consider illegal CBers as "Pirates"...
and give them the very large Pirate fine. Those using Amateur illegally
would be hunted down like dogs and given the punisment available under UK
law - prison.

When nearly everyone was using illegal antennas, they changed the antenna
rules to make those antennas legal.
When CBers were illegally using the American frequencies, they legalised the
band for CB use.
When they wanted American CBs out of the hands of CBers, they made it legal
for Amateurs to convert the sets to 10 Metre - so they would buy them from
CBers, make them legal, and save the RA the bother of chasing people.

If they were harsh, they would have put "No DX" and "no talking to
foreigners" rules in place. They would ban the import and sales of the
illegal CBs marked as "Amateur". They would ban the ownership or use of
Amplifiers that work on CB.
America does all those - The UK does none of them.
I would say that our CB service has very few rules, and enforcement only as
a last resort.

A few years back, a group of people set themselves up as self-appointed CB
police. They went around looking for CB antennas and CBers - sending a list
to the RA, for them to catch the licence dodgers.
You would think that the "bust" figure would have shot through the roof -
but the RA couln't be arsed to do the chasing.
They now plan to remove the licence next year - so reducing the amount of
illegal CBers even further.



Regards,

Peter.




Brainbuster November 6th 03 07:24 AM

jim wrote in message
...

if i were to float out to bermuda and xmit would i be
freebanding there?



What about just outside of American waters?

I am not sure that it still exists but, for years, we had a Pirate radio
station that was just outside of UK waters... the Gov. couldn't touch them.


Regards,

Peter.





Twistedhed November 6th 03 07:23 PM

From: (Brainbuster)
jim wrote in message
...
if i were to float out to bermuda and xmit would i be freebanding there?

What about just outside of American waters?


I am not sure that it still exists but, for years,


we had a Pirate radio station that was just


outside of UK waters... the Gov. couldn't touch
them.


Regards,


Peter.


_
Bottom line......for all practical and intent purposes, the United
States consider LICENSED stations AND operators under its jurisdiction
governed by the laws set forth by the FCC. It's why those fishing boats
were popped not too far back for conducting their business on the
freeband...they were way out in the Bering Sea, but they were registered
US crafts.



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