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Mr Winky December 5th 03 08:21 PM

New Truck driver & CB
 
Hi group
Im a brand new CDL Truck driver.
Over the road and need some info on CB.
I currently own a simple cobra 40 channle.
Will it be enough ,,, power,watts,ect, For what im doing. Anything more
that i need to know?
Thanks in advance.



Radioman December 6th 03 12:21 AM



Mr Winky wrote:

Hi group
Im a brand new CDL Truck driver.
Over the road and need some info on CB.
I currently own a simple cobra 40 channle.
Will it be enough ,,, power,watts,ect, For what im doing. Anything more
that i need to know?
Thanks in advance.


That's plenty to talk to the truck in front of you. For any real
distance, you need a big antenna (CB waves are 36 feet long), and a
sideband radio (set on sideband). AM is not normally a long distance
mode with 4 watts and a mobile antenna. (Skip does happen, though.)

Kelly and Robert December 6th 03 12:37 AM

I guess it's a personal preference thing.. I like power even if its just 100
watts or so.. If you need the power its there..I found it makes it nice just
to cut through the crap on 19 if needed...But like I said it works for me
"Mr Winky" wrote in message
...
Hi group
Im a brand new CDL Truck driver.
Over the road and need some info on CB.
I currently own a simple cobra 40 channle.
Will it be enough ,,, power,watts,ect, For what im doing. Anything more
that i need to know?
Thanks in advance.





George Kinzer December 6th 03 01:00 AM

get it peaked and tuned, then modifiy it to do 30 watts, get the BEST
antenna system you can afford, installed by someone who knows about antenna
systems on rigs (esp Volvo) and you will enjoy it for years...down the road
buy a new 500 watt linear and go kick some ass..
--
On the internet, no one can hear you scream.




Radioman December 6th 03 01:07 AM



Kelly and Robert wrote:
like I said



AHHHHH!!! You said it, too.

Steveo December 6th 03 01:34 AM

"Black Cowboy" wrote:
"Radioman" wrote in message
...

That's plenty to talk to the truck in front of you. For any real
distance, you need a big antenna (CB waves are 36 feet long), and a
sideband radio (set on sideband). AM is not normally a long distance
mode with 4 watts and a mobile antenna. (Skip does happen, though.)


Who is the ham op in Gastonia NC who chases truckers up & down
the interstate, trying to find out what channel and what kind of radio
they have? Hear he's a real weirdo.

Black Cowboy

Jerry Oxendine?

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Kelly and Robert December 6th 03 02:27 AM

Nothing worse than being underpowered might as well leave the rig off..
later

"Radioman" wrote in message
...


Kelly and Robert wrote:
like I said



AHHHHH!!! You said it, too.




Radioman December 6th 03 02:41 AM

like I said


AHHHHH!!! You said it, too.


Nothing worse than being underpowered might as well leave the rig off..
later


AM sucks anyway. Too much scratchiness. Must be overmodulation.

AM may have better fidelity then SSB, but I prefer sideband.

BTW, when you have FM mode on your radio, you hear how tinny AM is.

I don't understand what your answer has to do with starting your sentence with
the prepositional phrase, "Like I said." It's not good English. Don't do it. :

(It makes me laugh when I hear it because I've avoided it!!!!)

Jim Hampton December 6th 03 03:41 AM

I sure wouldn't know. I doubt if any ham operator would be interested as
long as you are not operating between 28.0 and 29.7 MHz.

73 from Rochester, NY
Jim


"Black Cowboy" wrote in message
...

"Radioman" wrote in message

...


That's plenty to talk to the truck in front of you. For any real
distance, you need a big antenna (CB waves are 36 feet long), and a
sideband radio (set on sideband). AM is not normally a long distance
mode with 4 watts and a mobile antenna. (Skip does happen, though.)



Who is the ham op in Gastonia NC who chases truckers up & down
the interstate, trying to find out what channel and what kind of radio
they have? Hear he's a real weirdo.

Black Cowboy







Landshark December 6th 03 03:57 AM


"Black Cowboy" wrote in message ...

"Radioman" wrote in message ...


That's plenty to talk to the truck in front of you. For any real
distance, you need a big antenna (CB waves are 36 feet long), and a
sideband radio (set on sideband). AM is not normally a long distance
mode with 4 watts and a mobile antenna. (Skip does happen, though.)



Who is the ham op in Gastonia NC who chases truckers up & down
the interstate, trying to find out what channel and what kind of radio
they have? Hear he's a real weirdo.

Black Cowboy


I'll bite, never posted
before, but seem to know all about
this newsgroup.


--
The happy people are those who are producing something;
the bored people are those who are consuming much and
producing nothing.



Jerry Oxendine December 6th 03 05:17 AM


"Black Cowboy" wrote in message
...

"Radioman" wrote in message

...


That's plenty to talk to the truck in front of you. For any real
distance, you need a big antenna (CB waves are 36 feet long), and a
sideband radio (set on sideband). AM is not normally a long distance
mode with 4 watts and a mobile antenna. (Skip does happen, though.)



Who is the ham op in Gastonia NC who chases truckers up & down
the interstate, trying to find out what channel and what kind of radio
they have? Hear he's a real weirdo.

Black Cowboy


Now you are spreading rumors, unsubstantiated rumors.

It ain't *just* me, bud. You better get used to it and i will
tell you how to keep from getting bothered: Stay OUT of
the 10 Meter band without license and you will never hear from the hams.
It's a win-win situation; you don't
steal frequencies from the hams, and the hams don't listen
for the drivers to operate on 10 Meters. OH, we already
KNOW what "channels" to look for. Tan-fer thar???

J










December 6th 03 04:41 PM


"Mr Winky" wrote in message
...
Hi group
Im a brand new CDL Truck driver.
Over the road and need some info on CB.
I currently own a simple cobra 40 channle.
Will it be enough ,,, power,watts,ect, For what im doing. Anything more
that i need to know?


Get yourself a Cobra 29 (AM) or Cobra 148 (AM/SSB) which works fine out of
the box. Invest in a Astatic Road King or D104M-6C-DX1 noise canceling
amplified mike and a heavy duty external speaker. Antenna wise get yourself
a 4' Firestick with a mirror mount quick-disconnect so you can take it with
you when moving from truck to truck. Getting your rig peaked/tuned will
slightly help but amps are more troble than they're worth for the average
OTR.




Citizens For A Keyclown-Free Newsgroup December 6th 03 06:50 PM

(Mr Winky) wrote in message ...
Hi group
Im a brand new CDL Truck driver.
Over the road and need some info on CB.
I currently own a simple cobra 40 channle.
Will it be enough ,,, power,watts,ect, For what im doing. Anything more
that i need to know?
Thanks in advance.


troll

Richard Cranium December 7th 03 12:57 AM

(Repeaterjammers For A Keyclown-Free Newsgroup) wrote in message . com...
(Mr Winky) wrote in message ...
Hi group
Im a brand new CDL Truck driver.
Over the road and need some info on CB.
I currently own a simple cobra 40 channle.
Will it be enough ,,, power,watts,ect, For what im doing. Anything more
that i need to know?
Thanks in advance.


troll


Yes, you are, DouGay!

nelson gonzalez December 7th 03 03:26 AM


how much ya wanna spend is the ?


"Mr Winky" wrote in message
...
Hi group
Im a brand new CDL Truck driver.
Over the road and need some info on CB.
I currently own a simple cobra 40 channle.
Will it be enough ,,, power,watts,ect, For what im doing. Anything more
that i need to know?
Thanks in advance.






Radioman December 7th 03 03:34 AM

Get yourself a Cobra 29 (AM) or Cobra 148 (AM/SSB) which works fine out of
the box. Invest in a Astatic Road King or D104M-6C-DX1 noise canceling
amplified mike and a heavy duty external speaker. Antenna wise get yourself
a 4' Firestick with a mirror mount quick-disconnect so you can take it with
you when moving from truck to truck. Getting your rig peaked/tuned will
slightly help but amps are more troble than they're worth for the average
OTR.



Any antenna smaller then 5 feet is worthless. Any radio peaked for max smoke
sounds like ****. A 2 pill amp, lightly driven, will work wonders.

gw December 7th 03 06:58 PM

"Black Cowboy" wrote in message ...
"Jerry Oxendine" wrote in message
...

It ain't *just* me, bud. You better get used to it and i will
tell you how to keep from getting bothered: Stay OUT of
the 10 Meter band without license and you will never hear from the hams.
It's a win-win situation; you don't
steal frequencies from the hams, and the hams don't listen
for the drivers to operate on 10 Meters. OH, we already
KNOW what "channels" to look for. Tan-fer thar???


Oh My Oh My Oh My! an imaginary "army" of
wannabe hams with no life, patrolling the nation's
interstates 24/7 ! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I bet 25 Million owners of CB radios are just shaking in fear
at this self-appointed army of wannabe hams! Post some
of your fake "enforcement" letters for us.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
ROTFLMAO!



well cowboy if you see that idiot following you writing down your
license number just slam on the brakes and make him run into you, then
he will get a ticket, that is of course after some fake anger on your
part because he caused the wreck doncha know. people like him need to
really get a life or turn to another channel...he has to remember the
next time he goes to the store and buys asswhipe, he can be assured
that some trucker , who was talking on 28 , delivered it to gastonia,
rogo d black.....

Jerry Oxendine December 7th 03 08:28 PM


"gw" wrote in message
om...
"Black Cowboy" wrote in message

...
"Jerry Oxendine" wrote in message
...

It ain't *just* me, bud. You better get used to it and i will
tell you how to keep from getting bothered: Stay OUT of
the 10 Meter band without license and you will never hear from the

hams.
It's a win-win situation; you don't
steal frequencies from the hams, and the hams don't listen
for the drivers to operate on 10 Meters. OH, we already
KNOW what "channels" to look for. Tan-fer thar???


Oh My Oh My Oh My! an imaginary "army" of
wannabe hams with no life, patrolling the nation's
interstates 24/7 ! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I bet 25 Million owners of CB radios are just shaking in fear
at this self-appointed army of wannabe hams! Post some
of your fake "enforcement" letters for us.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
ROTFLMAO!



well cowboy if you see that idiot following you writing down your
license number just slam on the brakes and make him run into you, then
he will get a ticket, that is of course after some fake anger on your
part because he caused the wreck doncha know. people like him need to
really get a life or turn to another channel...he has to remember the
next time he goes to the store and buys asswhipe, he can be assured
that some trucker , who was talking on 28 , delivered it to gastonia,
rogo d black.....



Gee, I hate to get into an argument, but go back and read what you just
wrote. This wreck your trucking company
just caused now costs the driver and his company BIG bucks, maybe put the
driver in prison for manslaughter,
his family, perhaps, in poverty. Besides, what is slamming on brakes going
to do when the "monitor" is in
FRONT doing the copying? HMMMMMMMMM? You tractor tag # is on the FRONT,
remember? They
don't WANT the trailer #!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA!
By the time you know the monitor has gotten the numbers, he has already
pulled far ahead. The lawsuits,
mmmmmmMMMMMM!! Lots of witnesses that saw
that tractor slam on brakes for no apparent reason!

$$$$$$$$$$$ Ker-ching!!!!!!

LMAO

J



Jerry Oxendine December 7th 03 08:53 PM


"Black Cowboy" wrote in message
...

"Jerry Oxendine" wrote in message
...

It ain't *just* me, bud. You better get used to it and i will
tell you how to keep from getting bothered: Stay OUT of
the 10 Meter band without license and you will never hear from the hams.
It's a win-win situation; you don't
steal frequencies from the hams, and the hams don't listen
for the drivers to operate on 10 Meters. OH, we already
KNOW what "channels" to look for. Tan-fer thar???


Oh My Oh My Oh My! an imaginary "army" of
wannabe hams with no life, patrolling the nation's
interstates 24/7 ! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I bet 25 Million owners of CB radios are just shaking in fear
at this self-appointed army of wannabe hams! Post some
of your fake "enforcement" letters for us.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
ROTFLMAO!



OK! Glad to! Plenty of them. Bear with me, guys, while I re-post some of
those letters that were posted before.

Keep on with the HAHAHA! and the ROTFLMAO.

It is real, and if it keep up, you may find that weight
stations and the state DOT officers will have the authority
to pull you over and cite you for operating on unlicensed
bands. They said that the "Local Enforcement" thing would never pass, but
it did, and some localities have used it to respond to complaints of CB
interference. Wouldn't take much to amend that law to make the above
happen.

Again, the way to NOT get in trouble is to just not operate on 10 Meters.
Very simple premise to me,
But, NO, *some* people think their CB playtoy has to
extend into theirs and everybody else's area, too. And if
the drivers would just stay OFF 10 and 12 Meters, there
would be no problem. This "Ah've got mah rah'ts thar to
use this hyar reddio whir I wanna" stuff just don't get it. Seem to forget
that there are services that have needs
as well. Funny. Them thar fellers go down to Roy's CB Shop and Pool Hall ,
buy one of them thar CB reddios where his coax has to be a "certain" length,
and WHAM! They suddenly know ALL there is to know about radio--which is,
for them, "AH WANT TO WORK MAH REDDIO AND I WANT TO TAWK SKIP ON EVER'
CHANNEL THERE IS," (Thar) And the hell without everybody else. If you want
to use a radio, do it right,
use a word called "Respect for others" and run your rig
on the bands that you are allowed to. VERY simple.
Take the time to do a little study about HOW, WHEN,
and WHY a radio works. You will find that all that
"swang", broad-banded coil antennas, SWR's (there
is only ONE swr in a feedline snicker), and that coax
length is a bunch of bull****. Get the license, operate on
ALL amateur bands, but do it RIGHT!

I'll be back with the enforcement letters from ARRL Letter. Better yet! Why
don't you call 717-338-2502
(the fox candy man) or email and find
out for yourself. HE is the guy that asked the hams to start watching for
illegal intruders to start with. That is
published on the web as well. (how do you want your
CROW cooked)?


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO!

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(he that laughs last laughs BEST!


J






Leland C. Scott December 8th 03 01:29 AM


"Black Cowboy" wrote in message
...
Oh My Oh My Oh My! an imaginary "army" of
wannabe hams with no life, patrolling the

nation's
interstates 24/7 !

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

When I'm out driving to and from work sites I tune
in to the low end of 10m. And yeah, from time to
time, I hear mainly truckers using AM. If I got
close enough I would ID them too. I would be
sending the info in to the FCC field office, the
ARRL, and the trucker's company just to let them
know a fine may be coming their way. The company
can thank the law breaking employee of theirs for
the privilege of contributing to the payment of
the national deficit.


I bet 25 Million owners of CB radios are just

shaking in fear
at this self-appointed army of wannabe hams!


If you're on 10m illegally and see a vehicle with
funny looking antennas pacing you in from the cab
you should worry.

Post some
of your fake "enforcement" letters for us.


Fake there not. Contact the companies listed below
for yourself.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
ROTFLMAO!


I'll bet the guilty truckers aren't laughing when
the boss tells them it either the radio or their
job. If some bozo driver cost me, as the owner, a
$10K fine I would find me another driver. There
are plenty of hungry unemployed drivers out there
who would be happy to have a job right now.

--------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------
FCC Warns Trucking Firms about Alleged Unlicensed
10-Meter Operation
NEWINGTON, CT, Jul 28, 2003--

The FCC Enforcement Bureau has sent Warning
Notice letters to three highway transportation
firms asserting that drivers of some of their
vehicles may have transmitted without a license on
10 meters. All three notices allege the unlicensed
operations took place July 8 on Interstate
highways in South Carolina.

Letters went out July 14 from FCC Special Counsel
Riley Hollingsworth to Jolly Roger Capital Ltd of
Columbia, South Carolina, Tidewater Transit
Company of Kinston, North Carolina, and Shuford
Lumber of Marion, North Carolina. He warned all
three firms that operation of radio transmitting
equipment without a license could lead to fines of
up to $10,000, equipment seizure and even
imprisonment.

Hollingsworth cited "information before the
Commission" that spelled out each vehicle's
highway location, license plate and--in two
instances--operating frequency (28.085 MHz). One
of the Warning Notice letters also identified the
make and year of the vehicle. The alleged offenses
were said to have occurred when the vehicles were
under way on Interstate 77 or Interstate 20 in
South Carolina.

Hollingsworth asked all three firms to get in
touch with him to discuss the allegations.
--------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------
Push to Identify Unlicensed 10-Meter Operators
Continues
NEWINGTON, CT, Oct 10, 2003

A concerted effort begun last spring to
monitor for and possibly identify unlicensed
operators on 10 meters will continue through
October. The FCC already has asked the ARRL
Amateur Auxiliary/Official Observers for
assistance. Now, FCC Special Counsel Riley
Hollingsworth is inviting hard information on
suspected interlopers from all amateurs.

"If I don't receive reports, we'll have to
conclude that unlicensed operation on 10 meters no
longer is a problem," Hollingsworth said this
week. Hollingsworth's initial request to beef up
monitoring came in the wake of complaints from the
amateur community that rose to the level of a
major enforcement headache. He's expressed some
disappointment, however, that the number of solid
reports received so far has been few, although
he's aware that a problem exists.

Hollingsworth asks amateurs to be specific in what
they report. "Everybody should police their own
neighborhood," he suggested. "Turn on the radio,
and take a listen on the band. If you hear a loud
signal that's obviously an unlicensed interloper,
see if you can track it down."

Hollingsworth said that in the case of a suspected
unlicensed trucker on the highway, amateurs should
try to get the license plate number of the
tractor--not the trailer--or at least the company
name and, if possible, the DOT number.

The FCC does not require direction-finding data
but would appreciate, where possible, names and
addresses of alleged or suspected operators. Audio
recordings of apparently illegal transmissions
also can prove helpful but are not absolutely
necessary.

Individual amateurs with solid information on
alleged unlicensed operation on 10 or even 12
meters should report it to the FCC via e-mail.
Official Observers should file their reports
through normal ARRL channels.

ARRL Field and Regulatory Correspondent Chuck
Skolaut, K0BOG, says the FCC wants to pin down
specific areas where unlicensed operation is
prevalent in the US. He and Hollingsworth concede,
however, that not all illegal 10-meter operation
is of domestic origin.

The FCC's initial request last May request was
made in accordance with the Communications Act and
a longstanding agreement between ARRL and the FCC
regarding the use of Amateur Radio volunteers to
assist in enforcement.
--------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------


--
Leland C. Scott
KC8LDO

ARRL Member
NCI Member

Charter member of the
Lawrence Technological University
Wireless Society W8LTU





gw December 8th 03 03:03 AM

"Jerry Oxendine" wrote in message ...
"gw" wrote in message
om...
"Black Cowboy" wrote in message

...
"Jerry Oxendine" wrote in message
...

It ain't *just* me, bud. You better get used to it and i will
tell you how to keep from getting bothered: Stay OUT of
the 10 Meter band without license and you will never hear from the

hams.
It's a win-win situation; you don't
steal frequencies from the hams, and the hams don't listen
for the drivers to operate on 10 Meters. OH, we already
KNOW what "channels" to look for. Tan-fer thar???


Oh My Oh My Oh My! an imaginary "army" of
wannabe hams with no life, patrolling the nation's
interstates 24/7 ! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I bet 25 Million owners of CB radios are just shaking in fear
at this self-appointed army of wannabe hams! Post some
of your fake "enforcement" letters for us.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
ROTFLMAO!



well cowboy if you see that idiot following you writing down your
license number just slam on the brakes and make him run into you, then
he will get a ticket, that is of course after some fake anger on your
part because he caused the wreck doncha know. people like him need to
really get a life or turn to another channel...he has to remember the
next time he goes to the store and buys asswhipe, he can be assured
that some trucker , who was talking on 28 , delivered it to gastonia,
rogo d black.....



Gee, I hate to get into an argument, but go back and read what you just
wrote. This wreck your trucking company
just caused now costs the driver and his company BIG bucks, maybe put the
driver in prison for manslaughter,
his family, perhaps, in poverty. Besides, what is slamming on brakes going
to do when the "monitor" is in
FRONT doing the copying? HMMMMMMMMM? You tractor tag # is on the FRONT,
remember? They
don't WANT the trailer #!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA!
By the time you know the monitor has gotten the numbers, he has already
pulled far ahead. The lawsuits,
mmmmmmMMMMMM!! Lots of witnesses that saw
that tractor slam on brakes for no apparent reason!

$$$$$$$$$$$ Ker-ching!!!!!!

LMAO

J


hey oxendine, are you really that dense??? what do you people in
gastonia do for fun anyways??? go to the walmart??? look bud, go put
your dunce cap on , stand in front of the bathroom mirror, suck your
gut in and repeat a hundred times....'i am a nobody......i am a
mudduck, .....i need a life......those letters by my name don't mean a
damn thing.....

and after you finish this assignment go read about the history of the
area you live in and then come back and tell your old uncle gee what
its all abowwowwowout.......

Jerry Oxendine December 8th 03 03:45 AM


"Black Cowboy" wrote in message
...

"Jerry Oxendine" wrote in message
...

It ain't *just* me, bud. You better get used to it and i will
tell you how to keep from getting bothered: Stay OUT of
the 10 Meter band without license and you will never hear from the hams.
It's a win-win situation; you don't
steal frequencies from the hams, and the hams don't listen
for the drivers to operate on 10 Meters. OH, we already
KNOW what "channels" to look for. Tan-fer thar???


Oh My Oh My Oh My! an imaginary "army" of
wannabe hams with no life, patrolling the nation's
interstates 24/7 ! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I bet 25 Million owners of CB radios are just shaking in fear
at this self-appointed army of wannabe hams! Post some
of your fake "enforcement" letters for us.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
ROTFLMAO!


----- Original Message -----
From: "Black Cowboy"
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 7:58 AM
Subject: New Truck driver & CB



"Jerry Oxendine" wrote in message
...

It ain't *just* me, bud. You better get used to it and i will
tell you how to keep from getting bothered: Stay OUT of
the 10 Meter band without license and you will never hear from the hams.
It's a win-win situation; you don't
steal frequencies from the hams, and the hams don't listen
for the drivers to operate on 10 Meters. OH, we already
KNOW what "channels" to look for. Tan-fer thar???


Oh My Oh My Oh My! an imaginary "army" of
wannabe hams with no life, patrolling the nation's
interstates 24/7 ! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I bet 25 Million owners of CB radios are just shaking in fear
at this self-appointed army of wannabe hams! Post some
of your fake "enforcement" letters for us.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
ROTFLMAO!




OK, Here they come! You called my "bluff" and now here are *some* of the
letters: They are not in any particular order.



CC: FCC Southeastern Regional Director

















April 28, 2003 Source: ARRL Letter



ENFORCEMENT: AMATEUR AUXILIARY ASKED TO ASSIST FCC IN 10 METER CLEAN-UP

Back on Mother Earth, the FCC has asked the assistance of the ARRL' s
Amateur Auxiliary as part of a clean-up of illegal users of the 10 meter
band. In a memorandum issued on April 28th, FCC Special Counsel Riley
Hollingsworth, K4ZDH, asks the Auxiliary's help for the next 6 months in
identifying any unlicensed operation using the 10 meter Amateur spectrum.

From May through October Auxiliary members will be tasked with monitoring
the band to determine whether interlopers are domestic business entities.
This includes trucking companies, truckers or other individuals who are not
licensed to be in the band or simply not licensed at all.

The FCC is not requesting that Auxiliary members provide direction finding.
Hollingsworth does ask that where possible that Auxiliary members provide
the names and cities of the operators, and license plate numbers and state
if the interfering signal is coming from a vehicle.

The project has been assigned case number 2003-583 and Hollingsworth does
ask Auxiliary members to use their best judgment as to whether to include
tape recordings of what they monitor. Authority to use the ham radio
volunteers in this investigation comes under the terms of long standing
agreement between the FCC's Field Operations Bureau and the American Radio
Relay League. (FCC)





This driver was dismissed according to FCC




Cheetah Transportation Company
378 Williamson Road
Mooresville, NC 28117-5935


SUBJECT: Warning Notice--Unlicensed Radio Operation
Vehicle License Number LK-6870 (North Carolina)
Case # EB 2002-397

Dear Sir:


Monitoring information before the Commission indicates that a driver of the
above vehicle licensed to your company was operating unlicensed radio
transmitting equipment on 28.085 MHz, on Interstate 77 in South Carolina, on
June 5, 2002.


Please be advised that operation of radio transmitting equipment without a
license is a violation of Section 301 of the Communications Act of 1934, as
amended, 47 U.S.C. Section 301. Such operation will subject the individual
to fine or imprisonment, as well as an in rem seizure of radio transmitting
equipment, in cooperation with the United States Attorney for your
jurisdiction. Fines normally range from $7,500 to $10,000.











July 8, 2001

L & N Design

6901 Emerald

Boise, ID 83704


SUBJECT: WARNING NOTICE--UNLICENSED RADIO OPERATION


Dear Sir:


Information before the Commission indicates that drivers for your business
have been operating radio-transmitting equipment without a license on the
Ten-Meter Amateur band.


Please be advised that operation of radio transmitting equipment without a
license is a violation of Section 301 of the Communications Act of 1934, as
amended, 47 U.S.C. Section 301, and will subject you to fine or
imprisonment, as well as an in rem seizure of any non-certified radio
transmitting equipment, in cooperation with the United States Attorney for
your jurisdiction. Monetary forfeitures normally range from $7,500 to
$10,000



************************************





ARRL Letter























































Mr. Mark Hanson
217 N. 6th Avenue
Wausau, WI 54403


SUBJECT: Warning Notice--UNLICENSED RADIO OPERATION










Dear Mr. Hanson:


The Commission has information that you have been operating
radio-transmitting equipment without a license on frequencies in the Amateur
Radio Service bands.


Please be advised that operation of radio transmitting equipment without a
license is a violation of Section 301 of the Communications Act of 1934, as
amended, 47 U.S.C. Section 301and will subject you to fine or imprisonment,
as well as an in rem seizure of radio transmitting equipment, in cooperation
with the United States Attorney for your jurisdiction. Fines for this
violation normally range from $7,500 to $10,000.


You are requested to contact me at 717-338-2502 to discuss this matter.

****************************************



This is 3 at once:











NEWINGTON, CT, Jul 28, 2003--The FCC Enforcement Bureau has sent Warning
Notice letters to three highway transportation firms asserting that drivers
of some of their vehicles may have transmitted without a license on 10
meters. All three notices allege the unlicensed operations took place July 8
on Interstate highways in South Carolina.

Letters went out July 14 from FCC Special Counsel Riley Hollingsworth to
Jolly Roger Capital Ltd of Columbia, South Carolina, Tidewater Transit
Company of Kinston, North Carolina, and Shuford Lumber of Marion, North
Carolina. He warned all three firms that operation of radio transmitting
equipment without a license could lead to fines of up to $10,000, equipment
seizure and even imprisonment.

Hollingsworth cited "information before the Commission" that spelled out
each vehicle's highway location, license plate and--in two
instances--operating frequency (28.085 MHz). One of the Warning Notice
letters also identified the make and year of the vehicle. The alleged
offenses were said to have occurred when the vehicles were under way on
Interstate 77 or Interstate 20 in South Carolina.

Hollingsworth asked all three firms to get in touch with him to discuss the
allegations.



***************************************

Feburary 26,2003

Mr. Carl Vincent
2699 Quail Knoll
Lake Elsinore, CA 92530

SUBJECT: WARNING NOTICE
UNLICENSED RADIO OPERATION

Dear Mr. Vincent:

The Commission has evidence that you have been operating radio-transmitting
equipment on frequencies in the Ten Meter Amateur band and on frequencies
near 30 MHz.

Operation of radio transmitting equipment without a license is a violation
of Section 301 of the Communications Act of 1934, as amended, and will
subject you to fine or imprisonment, as well as an in rem seizure of radio
transmitting equipment in cooperation with the U.S. Attorney in your
jurisdiction..

You are requested to contact me immediately at 717-338-2502 to discuss this
matter.



************************************

March 21, 2001


Mr. George D. Cairns
705 East Church Road
Waldron, Arkansas 72958

SUBJECT: WARNING NOTICE
UNLICENSED RADIO OPERATION

Dear Mr. Cairns:

The Commission has received evidence that you have been operating radio
transmitting without a license on frequencies in the Ten Meter Amateur band
and on frequencies near 30 MHz.

Please be advised that operation of radio transmitting equipment without a
license is a violation of Section 301 of the Communications Act of 1934, as
amended, 47 U.S.C. Section 301, and will subject you to fine or
imprisonment, as well as an in rem seizure of radio transmitting equipment.

You are requested to contact me at 717-338-2502 to discuss this matter

*************************************





April 17, 2001

Mr. Michael Kinney
15143 Morrison Street
Sherman Oaks, CA 91403



Subject: Warning Notice--Unlicensed Radio Operation

Dear Mr. Kinney:

The Commission has received evidence that you have been operating
radio-transmitting without a license on frequencies in the Amateur band, and
operating overpower in the CB service.

Please be advised that operation of radio transmitting equipment without a
license is a violation of Section 301 of the Communications Act of 1934, as
amended, and will subject you to fine or imprisonment, as well as an in rem
seizure of radio transmitting

**************************************



June 15, 2001


Gary L. Gribble Trucking
4309 Kingwood Road
Rockwood, PA 15557

Subject: Warning Notice--Unlicensed Radio Operation

Dear Sir:

The Commission has received information that you have been operating
radio-transmitting equipment without a license on frequencies in the Ten
Meter Amateur bands. Your trucks were monitored transmitting on Ten Meter
frequencies while enroute to and parked at Howard and Lodge Streets in
Albany, NY.

Please be advised that operation of radio transmitting equipment without a
license is a violation of Section 301 of the Communications Act of 1934, as
amended, 47 U.S.C. Section 301and may subject you to fine or imprisonment,
as well as an in rem seizure of radio transmitting equipment, in cooperation
with the United States Attorney for your jurisdiction. Monetary forfeitures
normally range from $7,500 to $10,000.

You are requested to contact me at 717-338-2502 to discuss this matter.

CC: FCC New York

******************************************



June 8, 2001




Mr. Trip Wilson
P. O. Box 725
Travelers Rest, SC 29690

Subject: Second Warning Notice
Unlicensed Radio Operation

Dear Mr. Williams:

On May 29, 2001 we notified you that the Commission had information that you
have been operating radio-transmitting equipment without a license on
frequencies in the Two and Ten Meter Amateur bands and have been using an
Amateur call sign not assigned to you..

We advised you that operation of radio transmitting equipment without a
license is a violation of Section 301 of the Communications Act of 1934, as
amended, 47 U.S.C. Section 301 and will subject you to fine or imprisonment,
as well as an in rem seizure of radio transmitting equipment, in cooperation
with the United States Attorney for your jurisdiction. Monetary fines
normally range from $7,500 to $10,000.

Please be advised that we do not accept your recent telephone explanation of
this matter.

**************************************



August 10, 2001

Derek's Trucking
3102 Rockspring Church Road
Creedmoor, NC 27522-1964

SUBJECT: Warning Notice--Unlicensed Radio Operation

Dear Sir:

Monitoring information before the Commission shows that you have been
operating radio-transmitting equipment without a license on frequencies in
the Ten Meter Amateur Radio Service band. Your truck bearing license plate
ZB20189 was monitored transmitting on Ten Meter frequencies on July 19, 2001
at 10:30 a.m. on U.S. 1 near Cary, NC, at 2:50 p.m. on Kildaire Farm Road
and from 3:00 to 3:30 p.m. from a landfill near the intersection of State
Road 55 and Sunset lake Road. Re-transmissions of Nextel two-way
communications were also sent from the truck on Ten Meter frequencies.

Please be advised that operation of radio transmitting equipment without a
license is a violation of Section 301 of the Communications Act of 1934, as
amended, 47 U.S.C. Section 301,and will subject you to fine or imprisonment,
as well as an in rem seizure of any non-certified radio transmitting
equipment, in cooperation with the United States Attorney for your
jurisdiction. Monetary forfeitures normally range from $7,500 to $10,000.

You are requested to contact me at 717-338-2502 to discuss this matter.

****************************************

There are plenty more! They can be found at:

www.arrl.org . In the yellow border at the top, click

on "ARRL News/Bulletins". Scroll down to "FCC Enforcement". You will have
to go thru the dates to find them. These notices appear at an irregular
interval, but can also be found there under "ARRL Letter" published each
Friday. Sometimes, they also are on www.arnewsline.com. and
www.rainreport.com. which

is published every two weeks.

This push to end the incursions into bands by illegals is

REAL and it's not going to stop. Yell at me all you like,

I didn't start it. It was started when people decided that

they could just do anyway they like. It isn't only the US

hams that are upset, it is caused by complaints by OTHER countries who also
are assigned 10/12 Meters

by treaty. From what I am hearing, it is not going to just

go away. The busts are increasing--including those against "freebanders"
(there IS no such thing), and if it

isn't curtailed, there are studies going on right now with

FCC to best deal with it

This is just the first shots over the bows.



Cheers,



J




(If you want to see more hits against drivers and individuals, that can be
provided as well.)



Randy December 8th 03 04:02 AM


"Jerry Oxendine" wrote in message
...

"Black Cowboy" wrote in message
...

"Jerry Oxendine" wrote in message
...

It ain't *just* me, bud. You better get used to it and i will
tell you how to keep from getting bothered: Stay OUT of
the 10 Meter band without license and you will never hear from the

hams.
It's a win-win situation; you don't
steal frequencies from the hams, and the hams don't listen
for the drivers to operate on 10 Meters. OH, we already
KNOW what "channels" to look for. Tan-fer thar???


Oh My Oh My Oh My! an imaginary "army" of
wannabe hams with no life, patrolling the nation's
interstates 24/7 ! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I bet 25 Million owners of CB radios are just shaking in fear
at this self-appointed army of wannabe hams! Post some
of your fake "enforcement" letters for us.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
ROTFLMAO!


----- Original Message -----
From: "Black Cowboy"
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 7:58 AM
Subject: New Truck driver & CB



"Jerry Oxendine" wrote in message
...

It ain't *just* me, bud. You better get used to it and i will
tell you how to keep from getting bothered: Stay OUT of
the 10 Meter band without license and you will never hear from the

hams.
It's a win-win situation; you don't
steal frequencies from the hams, and the hams don't listen
for the drivers to operate on 10 Meters. OH, we already
KNOW what "channels" to look for. Tan-fer thar???


Oh My Oh My Oh My! an imaginary "army" of
wannabe hams with no life, patrolling the nation's
interstates 24/7 ! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I bet 25 Million owners of CB radios are just shaking in fear
at this self-appointed army of wannabe hams! Post some
of your fake "enforcement" letters for us.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
ROTFLMAO!




OK, Here they come! You called my "bluff" and now here are *some* of the
letters: They are not in any particular order.



CC: FCC Southeastern Regional Director

















April 28, 2003 Source: ARRL Letter



ENFORCEMENT: AMATEUR AUXILIARY ASKED TO ASSIST FCC IN 10 METER CLEAN-UP

Back on Mother Earth, the FCC has asked the assistance of the ARRL' s
Amateur Auxiliary as part of a clean-up of illegal users of the 10 meter
band. In a memorandum issued on April 28th, FCC Special Counsel Riley
Hollingsworth, K4ZDH, asks the Auxiliary's help for the next 6 months in
identifying any unlicensed operation using the 10 meter Amateur spectrum.

From May through October Auxiliary members will be tasked with monitoring
the band to determine whether interlopers are domestic business entities.
This includes trucking companies, truckers or other individuals who are

not
licensed to be in the band or simply not licensed at all.

The FCC is not requesting that Auxiliary members provide direction

finding.
Hollingsworth does ask that where possible that Auxiliary members provide
the names and cities of the operators, and license plate numbers and state
if the interfering signal is coming from a vehicle.

The project has been assigned case number 2003-583 and Hollingsworth does
ask Auxiliary members to use their best judgment as to whether to include
tape recordings of what they monitor. Authority to use the ham radio
volunteers in this investigation comes under the terms of long standing
agreement between the FCC's Field Operations Bureau and the American Radio
Relay League. (FCC)





This driver was dismissed according to FCC




Cheetah Transportation Company
378 Williamson Road
Mooresville, NC 28117-5935


SUBJECT: Warning Notice--Unlicensed Radio Operation
Vehicle License Number LK-6870 (North Carolina)
Case # EB 2002-397

Dear Sir:


Monitoring information before the Commission indicates that a driver of

the
above vehicle licensed to your company was operating unlicensed radio
transmitting equipment on 28.085 MHz, on Interstate 77 in South Carolina,

on
June 5, 2002.


Please be advised that operation of radio transmitting equipment without a
license is a violation of Section 301 of the Communications Act of 1934,

as
amended, 47 U.S.C. Section 301. Such operation will subject the individual
to fine or imprisonment, as well as an in rem seizure of radio

transmitting
equipment, in cooperation with the United States Attorney for your
jurisdiction. Fines normally range from $7,500 to $10,000.











July 8, 2001

L & N Design

6901 Emerald

Boise, ID 83704


SUBJECT: WARNING NOTICE--UNLICENSED RADIO OPERATION


Dear Sir:


Information before the Commission indicates that drivers for your business
have been operating radio-transmitting equipment without a license on the
Ten-Meter Amateur band.


Please be advised that operation of radio transmitting equipment without a
license is a violation of Section 301 of the Communications Act of 1934,

as
amended, 47 U.S.C. Section 301, and will subject you to fine or
imprisonment, as well as an in rem seizure of any non-certified radio
transmitting equipment, in cooperation with the United States Attorney for
your jurisdiction. Monetary forfeitures normally range from $7,500 to
$10,000



************************************





ARRL Letter























































Mr. Mark Hanson
217 N. 6th Avenue
Wausau, WI 54403


SUBJECT: Warning Notice--UNLICENSED RADIO OPERATION










Dear Mr. Hanson:


The Commission has information that you have been operating
radio-transmitting equipment without a license on frequencies in the

Amateur
Radio Service bands.


Please be advised that operation of radio transmitting equipment without a
license is a violation of Section 301 of the Communications Act of 1934,

as
amended, 47 U.S.C. Section 301and will subject you to fine or

imprisonment,
as well as an in rem seizure of radio transmitting equipment, in

cooperation
with the United States Attorney for your jurisdiction. Fines for this
violation normally range from $7,500 to $10,000.


You are requested to contact me at 717-338-2502 to discuss this matter.

****************************************



This is 3 at once:











NEWINGTON, CT, Jul 28, 2003--The FCC Enforcement Bureau has sent Warning
Notice letters to three highway transportation firms asserting that

drivers
of some of their vehicles may have transmitted without a license on 10
meters. All three notices allege the unlicensed operations took place July

8
on Interstate highways in South Carolina.

Letters went out July 14 from FCC Special Counsel Riley Hollingsworth to
Jolly Roger Capital Ltd of Columbia, South Carolina, Tidewater Transit
Company of Kinston, North Carolina, and Shuford Lumber of Marion, North
Carolina. He warned all three firms that operation of radio transmitting
equipment without a license could lead to fines of up to $10,000,

equipment
seizure and even imprisonment.

Hollingsworth cited "information before the Commission" that spelled out
each vehicle's highway location, license plate and--in two
instances--operating frequency (28.085 MHz). One of the Warning Notice
letters also identified the make and year of the vehicle. The alleged
offenses were said to have occurred when the vehicles were under way on
Interstate 77 or Interstate 20 in South Carolina.

Hollingsworth asked all three firms to get in touch with him to discuss

the
allegations.



***************************************

Feburary 26,2003

Mr. Carl Vincent
2699 Quail Knoll
Lake Elsinore, CA 92530

SUBJECT: WARNING NOTICE
UNLICENSED RADIO OPERATION

Dear Mr. Vincent:

The Commission has evidence that you have been operating

radio-transmitting
equipment on frequencies in the Ten Meter Amateur band and on frequencies
near 30 MHz.

Operation of radio transmitting equipment without a license is a violation
of Section 301 of the Communications Act of 1934, as amended, and will
subject you to fine or imprisonment, as well as an in rem seizure of radio
transmitting equipment in cooperation with the U.S. Attorney in your
jurisdiction..

You are requested to contact me immediately at 717-338-2502 to discuss

this
matter.



************************************

March 21, 2001


Mr. George D. Cairns
705 East Church Road
Waldron, Arkansas 72958

SUBJECT: WARNING NOTICE
UNLICENSED RADIO OPERATION

Dear Mr. Cairns:

The Commission has received evidence that you have been operating radio
transmitting without a license on frequencies in the Ten Meter Amateur

band
and on frequencies near 30 MHz.

Please be advised that operation of radio transmitting equipment without a
license is a violation of Section 301 of the Communications Act of 1934,

as
amended, 47 U.S.C. Section 301, and will subject you to fine or
imprisonment, as well as an in rem seizure of radio transmitting

equipment.

You are requested to contact me at 717-338-2502 to discuss this matter

*************************************





April 17, 2001

Mr. Michael Kinney
15143 Morrison Street
Sherman Oaks, CA 91403



Subject: Warning Notice--Unlicensed Radio Operation

Dear Mr. Kinney:

The Commission has received evidence that you have been operating
radio-transmitting without a license on frequencies in the Amateur band,

and
operating overpower in the CB service.

Please be advised that operation of radio transmitting equipment without a
license is a violation of Section 301 of the Communications Act of 1934,

as
amended, and will subject you to fine or imprisonment, as well as an in

rem
seizure of radio transmitting

**************************************



June 15, 2001


Gary L. Gribble Trucking
4309 Kingwood Road
Rockwood, PA 15557

Subject: Warning Notice--Unlicensed Radio Operation

Dear Sir:

The Commission has received information that you have been operating
radio-transmitting equipment without a license on frequencies in the Ten
Meter Amateur bands. Your trucks were monitored transmitting on Ten Meter
frequencies while enroute to and parked at Howard and Lodge Streets in
Albany, NY.

Please be advised that operation of radio transmitting equipment without a
license is a violation of Section 301 of the Communications Act of 1934,

as
amended, 47 U.S.C. Section 301and may subject you to fine or imprisonment,
as well as an in rem seizure of radio transmitting equipment, in

cooperation
with the United States Attorney for your jurisdiction. Monetary

forfeitures
normally range from $7,500 to $10,000.

You are requested to contact me at 717-338-2502 to discuss this matter.

CC: FCC New York

******************************************



June 8, 2001




Mr. Trip Wilson
P. O. Box 725
Travelers Rest, SC 29690

Subject: Second Warning Notice
Unlicensed Radio Operation

Dear Mr. Williams:

On May 29, 2001 we notified you that the Commission had information that

you
have been operating radio-transmitting equipment without a license on
frequencies in the Two and Ten Meter Amateur bands and have been using an
Amateur call sign not assigned to you..

We advised you that operation of radio transmitting equipment without a
license is a violation of Section 301 of the Communications Act of 1934,

as
amended, 47 U.S.C. Section 301 and will subject you to fine or

imprisonment,
as well as an in rem seizure of radio transmitting equipment, in

cooperation
with the United States Attorney for your jurisdiction. Monetary fines
normally range from $7,500 to $10,000.

Please be advised that we do not accept your recent telephone explanation

of
this matter.

**************************************



August 10, 2001

Derek's Trucking
3102 Rockspring Church Road
Creedmoor, NC 27522-1964

SUBJECT: Warning Notice--Unlicensed Radio Operation

Dear Sir:

Monitoring information before the Commission shows that you have been
operating radio-transmitting equipment without a license on frequencies in
the Ten Meter Amateur Radio Service band. Your truck bearing license plate
ZB20189 was monitored transmitting on Ten Meter frequencies on July 19,

2001
at 10:30 a.m. on U.S. 1 near Cary, NC, at 2:50 p.m. on Kildaire Farm Road
and from 3:00 to 3:30 p.m. from a landfill near the intersection of State
Road 55 and Sunset lake Road. Re-transmissions of Nextel two-way
communications were also sent from the truck on Ten Meter frequencies.

Please be advised that operation of radio transmitting equipment without a
license is a violation of Section 301 of the Communications Act of 1934,

as
amended, 47 U.S.C. Section 301,and will subject you to fine or

imprisonment,
as well as an in rem seizure of any non-certified radio transmitting
equipment, in cooperation with the United States Attorney for your
jurisdiction. Monetary forfeitures normally range from $7,500 to $10,000.

You are requested to contact me at 717-338-2502 to discuss this matter.

****************************************

There are plenty more! They can be found at:

www.arrl.org . In the yellow border at the top, click

on "ARRL News/Bulletins". Scroll down to "FCC Enforcement". You will

have
to go thru the dates to find them. These notices appear at an irregular
interval, but can also be found there under "ARRL Letter" published each
Friday. Sometimes, they also are on www.arnewsline.com. and
www.rainreport.com. which

is published every two weeks.

This push to end the incursions into bands by illegals is

REAL and it's not going to stop. Yell at me all you like,

I didn't start it. It was started when people decided that

they could just do anyway they like. It isn't only the US

hams that are upset, it is caused by complaints by OTHER countries who

also
are assigned 10/12 Meters

by treaty. From what I am hearing, it is not going to just

go away. The busts are increasing--including those against "freebanders"
(there IS no such thing), and if it

isn't curtailed, there are studies going on right now with

FCC to best deal with it

This is just the first shots over the bows.



Cheers,



J




(If you want to see more hits against drivers and individuals, that can be
provided as well.)



Really BIG HONKIN' YAWN.....



Jerry Oxendine December 8th 03 04:34 AM


"Randy" wrote in




Really BIG HONKIN' YAWN.....



Good! Yawn all you like. If you get one of those letters,
I betcha you'll get pretty wakeful.

If you aren't operating out of band, don't worry about it
and go back to sleep.


J




Jerry Oxendine December 8th 03 05:07 AM


"gw" wrote in message

and after you finish this assignment go read about the history of the
area you live in and then come back and tell your old uncle gee what
its all abowwowwowout.......


Speaking of ignorance,

I know a helluva lot about this area, betcha. That filter
in your car (oil and air) comes for WIX filters (two plants
in town). Got Firestone tires? The tire cord plant was in
Gastonia for 70 years--now located just west of here. Bearings? Timken
Bearing Division, Kings Mtn, NC.
Aircraft engine parts? Pratt & Whitney plant in Gastonia!
And (hold on to your hat) if you are a trucker and drive
a Freightliner, um, it is likely that it was assembled in
Mt Holly, NC --the parts plant is located on I-85! Got friends that work
there at BOTH plants! Battle of Kings Mtn, Revolutionary War, October,
1780, decisive victory for the Patriots. British forces surrendered and it
was a major turning point in the War and a resounding slap against
Cornwallis. The Mecklenburg Declaration of
Independence occurred prior to 1776 (I'd have to look
at date). Remember the Charlotte Hornets? That name
goes back to the Revolution, too. Cornwallis's forces
suffered yet another defeat where he called that county
a HORNET'S NEST! That was why the basketball team
was named as it was. ...........we could go on and on.
This area that YOU are so dense and clueless about is a
thriving metro area with mega-buck corporations--particularly banking and
insurance. Companies have flocked here because of lower taxes, a good work
ethic,
and plenty of amenities such as convenient Interstates,
airports and recreation for its employees such as sports,
mountains, beaches within a day's reach and boating on
the lakes with which we are well blessed thanks to the
Catawba River.

Try again!! TAN-fer thar?



LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!

J



Dr. Death December 8th 03 07:20 AM

i've operated out of band for 30 years without any FCC intrusions, BUT i do
not operate on the ham freqs, that's asking for problems

"Jerry Oxendine" wrote in message
...

"Randy" wrote in




Really BIG HONKIN' YAWN.....



Good! Yawn all you like. If you get one of those letters,
I betcha you'll get pretty wakeful.

If you aren't operating out of band, don't worry about it
and go back to sleep.


J






Steveo December 8th 03 10:02 AM

"Jerry Oxendine" wrote:
"Randy" wrote in




Really BIG HONKIN' YAWN.....


Good! Yawn all you like. If you get one of those letters,
I betcha you'll get pretty wakeful.

If you aren't operating out of band, don't worry about it
and go back to sleep.

J


Paranoid much, Jerry?
"Jerry Oxendine" wrote:
And if I catch some bird on
a scooter taking pictures, he better not be on my land!
He comes down my driveway snooping, he just might get
his (*censored*) kicked.


--
http://NewsReader.Com/
50 GB/Month

gw December 8th 03 03:04 PM

"Jerry Oxendine" wrote in message .. .
"gw" wrote in message

and after you finish this assignment go read about the history of the
area you live in and then come back and tell your old uncle gee what
its all abowwowwowout.......


Speaking of ignorance,

I know a helluva lot about this area, betcha. That filter
in your car (oil and air) comes for WIX filters (two plants
in town). Got Firestone tires? The tire cord plant was in
Gastonia for 70 years--now located just west of here. Bearings? Timken
Bearing Division, Kings Mtn, NC.
Aircraft engine parts? Pratt & Whitney plant in Gastonia!
And (hold on to your hat) if you are a trucker and drive
a Freightliner, um, it is likely that it was assembled in
Mt Holly, NC --the parts plant is located on I-85! Got friends that work
there at BOTH plants! Battle of Kings Mtn, Revolutionary War, October,
1780, decisive victory for the Patriots. British forces surrendered and it
was a major turning point in the War and a resounding slap against
Cornwallis. The Mecklenburg Declaration of
Independence occurred prior to 1776 (I'd have to look
at date). Remember the Charlotte Hornets? That name
goes back to the Revolution, too. Cornwallis's forces
suffered yet another defeat where he called that county
a HORNET'S NEST! That was why the basketball team
was named as it was. ...........we could go on and on.
This area that YOU are so dense and clueless about is a
thriving metro area with mega-buck corporations--particularly banking and
insurance. Companies have flocked here because of lower taxes, a good work
ethic,
and plenty of amenities such as convenient Interstates,
airports and recreation for its employees such as sports,
mountains, beaches within a day's reach and boating on
the lakes with which we are well blessed thanks to the
Catawba River.

Try again!! TAN-fer thar?



LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!

J


very good oxendine.....now then since you are a hamster hanging around
a cb radio newsgroup whining about truckers operating on your precious
10 meter bands which incidentally belong to the people and not just
you or the government and since now that you have those letters by
your name , you align yourself with this said government....well then
why don't you tell me what happened to tories back in that day
mudduck......if found out they were hung... asshole....now, if i read
correctly some of that unimportant drivel you posted , that indicates
some of you pinheads can be shall we say 'deputized' to seek out those
dastardly truckers operating on 10 meters, well sir in my book that
makes you and the rest of your little stupid crew as nothing more than
a bunch of major league rats, who haven't got anything better to do
especially at home evidentally. people like you make me
sick..........and you know something oxendine, nobody and that
includes a lot of hamsters, i might add, give a crap about this self
appointed quest of yours, that seems to attract the same kinds of
character deficient idiots who have the same kinds of mindsets brought
on by what may i ask??? the fact that you guys are so ugly you can't
sneak up to some chick to get a drink of water since if you dummies
are married, in your own minds you really want to cheat on those fat
ugly wives that you are married to...so you turn to other pursuits,
and in this case the object of your pent up desires is illegal
operation on 28......in a word oxendine get a life numbnutts.....and
also check the cb slang at the door. i never knew anyone that talked
like that. can you feel me sucka?????

Jerry Oxendine December 8th 03 06:00 PM


"gw" wrote in message
om...
"Jerry Oxendine" wrote in message

.. .
"gw" wrote in message

and after you finish this assignment go read about the history of the
area you live in and then come back and tell your old uncle gee what
its all abowwowwowout.......


Speaking of ignorance,

I know a helluva lot about this area, betcha. That filter
in your car (oil and air) comes for WIX filters (two plants
in town). Got Firestone tires? The tire cord plant was in
Gastonia for 70 years--now located just west of here. Bearings? Timken
Bearing Division, Kings Mtn, NC.
Aircraft engine parts? Pratt & Whitney plant in Gastonia!
And (hold on to your hat) if you are a trucker and drive
a Freightliner, um, it is likely that it was assembled in
Mt Holly, NC --the parts plant is located on I-85! Got friends that work
there at BOTH plants! Battle of Kings Mtn, Revolutionary War, October,
1780, decisive victory for the Patriots. British forces surrendered and

it
was a major turning point in the War and a resounding slap against
Cornwallis. The Mecklenburg Declaration of
Independence occurred prior to 1776 (I'd have to look
at date). Remember the Charlotte Hornets? That name
goes back to the Revolution, too. Cornwallis's forces
suffered yet another defeat where he called that county
a HORNET'S NEST! That was why the basketball team
was named as it was. ...........we could go on and on.
This area that YOU are so dense and clueless about is a
thriving metro area with mega-buck corporations--particularly banking

and
insurance. Companies have flocked here because of lower taxes, a good

work
ethic,
and plenty of amenities such as convenient Interstates,
airports and recreation for its employees such as sports,
mountains, beaches within a day's reach and boating on
the lakes with which we are well blessed thanks to the
Catawba River.

Try again!! TAN-fer thar?



LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!

J


very good oxendine.....now then since you are a hamster hanging around
a cb radio newsgroup whining about truckers operating on your precious
10 meter bands


Again, YOU are the one that has no clue. Governance of
radio is regulated by Congress in the USA. It is regulated to prevent the
tryanny of mob rule--which the use of radio would become without oversight.
It's because of that we have representatives upon which we VOTE: don't like
a law? Get it changed. Your very demeanor loudly proclaims your lack of
understanding of how radio regulation works, its 'ownership' by the people
(the USA
does not "own" the airwaves) and the reasons why it is divided up into
segments. These regulations make "fences" that keep one group from
interferring with another, or even within the same group. Like it or not,
neither you or I have a "right" to operate a radio; it is a
privilege accorded by the governing bodies of nations. Some nations severely
restrict use of radio by its citizens,
or allow none at all. Just for getting caught in possession
of a radio could get one hauled off to jail or executed! Here, in the USA,
we are lucky enough to have a Repre-
sentative Republic (it is NOT a 'democracy' as many mistakenly call it). Our
Congress has seen fit to regulate it
thru the Communications Act of 1934 which created FCC. That is because it
is realized thru past experience
what happens when people can just operate anyway, anyhow, and in any way
they chose. All you gotta do is
just listen to the CB (SQUEAL, HOWL, YOWL, WAH!) caused by thousands of
signals beating against each other. No training, no regulation, no
self-control,
no knowing why CB continually self-destructs itself on
a daily basis. Believe it or not, it was not always that way. Yes, there
was 'skip', but people didn't try to use it
to any great extent. They didn't have all those annoying,
beeps, squeaks, burps and babyish noises; no need for it. None of the
infantile "cutesy" sayings ("keep the sunny
side up and the flat side down", etc.) No "swang", no "pills", no "SWRs
(plural)", no "ya gotta have a 'certain' length of coax"--just people using
the radio to conduct local personal affairs, keep up with family, run
errands, and talk with friends. GASP! What a concept! Courtesy
was the order of the day. In the late '60s, CB radio WAS
a pleasure. Around here, there were clubs that sponsored dances, raffles,
collected money for sick and
shut-ins. You could see "coffee breaks" on the highway,
and everyone bent over backwards to be a neighbor and
a friend via CB radio. It was what CB radio was originallly supposed to be:
everyman's affordable 'car' phone. What it morphed into is now a nightmare
of
noise, amplifiers, overmodulated, noise toy-ed free-for-alls. It a game to
feed under-fulfilled egos by being top
dog with mo' powah. It is almost a paralysis.


which incidentally belong to the people and not just
you or the government and since now that you have those letters by
your name ,




you align yourself with this said government

We ALL are the government by representation; if you don't like a law, get it
changed thru legal, civil means. That is why Amateurs have ARRL to
intercede and lobby
on behalf of "hammies" as you like to say.







'deputized' to seek out those
dastardly truckers operating on 10 meters, well sir in my book that
makes you and the rest of your little stupid crew as nothing more than
a bunch of major league rats, who haven't got anything better to do


OK. If that is what you want to call it, FINE! Like it or
not, those of who chose to obtain a license did so thru the
legal means set up by our people--the representatives, the
CONGRESS. I have used this before but it seems not to
be simple for those of lighter minds to grasp. Those self-same lighter minds
would grab their guns and yell, "YOU
GIT OFF MY LAND 'FER I CALL THE LAW" or "Yer fixin' to git shot". Why, the
very idea of them guys fishin' my lake, yeah, the one *I* stocked with
perch!
I bought that land, or I leased it, and in so doing, obtained
the legal privileges that go with it--to have, to hold, to use as I see fit.
And, of course, they would not hesitate to
"rat" to the police anyone found trespassing on their land.
Yet those same minds cannot grasp that, despite any argument to the
contrary, that there are "properties" both
tangible and IN-tangible, and there are laws/regulations to
protect ALL, NOT just those who want to steal from others. Those "hamsters"
'paid' the *lease*, as it were,
by fulfilling the requirements of the entities charged with
protecting all citizens--not just CBers, or truckers, or lawless bandits
(who have no "rights"--they are THIEVES no less than a bank robber).
Remember the
group you so disdain--Congress? That group of repre-
sentatives YOU elected, the gub'ment? We is them and
they is US!!!!!!!!! Don't like it? Change it!

So, just like if you were found camping in someone's back yard, those who
"paid" the lease to use the Amateur
Bands are not going to sit idly by and allow squatters to
just invite themselves in. Just like the property owner with the pistol,
assisting the FCC in monitoring for illegal bands is NO different, and we
are no more "rat" than
you would be if *I* were digging a hole in your yard with
a backhoe without permission.





also check the cb slang at the door. i never knew anyone that talked
like that.


HAHAHAHAHA! I don't even need to justify that: it bears witness itself. All
ya gotta do is listen--just listen
for 5 minutes.


Y'all take ca'uh, yuh heah?


J



JJ December 8th 03 11:03 PM


Jerry, you're talking way above the understanding level of gw. He is of
the cb mindset, "I bought and paid for this heer radio and I kin use it
on any of them thar 400 channels I damn well please, doncha know".


Steveo December 8th 03 11:18 PM

JJ wrote:
Jerry, you're talking way above the understanding level of gw. He is of
the cb mindset, "I bought and paid for this heer radio and I kin use it
on any of them thar 400 channels I damn well please, doncha know".

That's not really fair, JJ. 'The CB mindset' is a wide paint-brush.

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Jerry Oxendine December 8th 03 11:39 PM


"Dr. Death" wrote in message
...
i've operated out of band for 30 years without any FCC intrusions, BUT i

do
not operate on the ham freqs, that's asking for problems


And Thank you for not doing so. It shows a wisdom that
some can't fathom--they want it ALL! I don't agree with
"freebanding", but I am not here to debate that. You are
smart to avoid the ham frequencies simply because 1) the
bands are usually busy and someone is likely to hear you,
and 2) if you are heard, they WILL report it. As a part of the Amateur
Service, there is a concept of self-policing. Yep, there are what are called
"Official Observers" (appointed by ARRL), and individual hams that *may*
report any "bandits" on the frequencies The
more intellectual minds among us understand that the hams are only trying
to protect what is their own "turf".
Such a simple principle: stay OUT of the ham bands, and
the hams aren't likely to bother you.

J


"Jerry Oxendine" wrote in message
...

"Randy" wrote in




Really BIG HONKIN' YAWN.....



Good! Yawn all you like. If you get one of those letters,
I betcha you'll get pretty wakeful.

If you aren't operating out of band, don't worry about it
and go back to sleep.


J








Jerry Oxendine December 8th 03 11:49 PM

NOPE!

The group is welcome to read the thread concerning HOAs in another group.
We were talking about home-
owners' associations. Kindly point the folks to the WHOLE thread instead of
taking liberties with what
one says in another context.

But then, paranoia seems to reign amongst those of your compatriots who
throw insults and feeble putdowns if anyone threaten their theft of
frequencies.

J

"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"Jerry Oxendine" wrote:
"Randy" wrote in




Really BIG HONKIN' YAWN.....


Good! Yawn all you like. If you get one of those letters,
I betcha you'll get pretty wakeful.

If you aren't operating out of band, don't worry about it
and go back to sleep.

J


Paranoid much, Jerry?
"Jerry Oxendine" wrote:
And if I catch some bird on
a scooter taking pictures, he better not be on my land!
He comes down my driveway snooping, he just might get
his (*censored*) kicked.


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Jerry Oxendine December 8th 03 11:55 PM


"JJ" wrote in message
...

Jerry, you're talking way above the understanding level of gw. He is of
the cb mindset, "I bought and paid for this heer radio and I kin use it
on any of them thar 400 channels I damn well please, doncha know".


You forgot the word "Thar"! LOLOLOLOL!!


His little attempt at insulting my local area seems to have
backfired, eh? Wonder how he liked the part about his
Freightliner being built about 9 miles from here. He sure
got quiet. LMAO!

J




Steveo December 8th 03 11:59 PM

"Jerry Oxendine" wrote:
NOPE!

Paranoid much, Jerry?
"Jerry Oxendine" wrote:
And if I catch some bird on
a scooter taking pictures, he better not be on my land!
He comes down my driveway snooping, he just might get
his (*censored*) kicked.


Different when you're the camera target? You might be sucking
too many diesel fumes, after following those Kenworth's so much.

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Steveo December 9th 03 12:00 AM

"Jerry Oxendine" wrote:
"JJ" wrote in message
...

Jerry, you're talking way above the understanding level of gw. He is of
the cb mindset, "I bought and paid for this heer radio and I kin use it
on any of them thar 400 channels I damn well please, doncha know".


You forgot the word "Thar"! LOLOLOLOL!!

You didn't forget to be a jackass thar, Jer.

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Steveo December 9th 03 12:02 AM

"Jerry Oxendine" wrote:
"Dr. Death" wrote in message
...
i've operated out of band for 30 years without any FCC intrusions, BUT
i

do
not operate on the ham freqs, that's asking for problems


And Thank you for not doing so. It shows a wisdom that
some can't fathom--they want it ALL!

Why do you lump all CBer's in the same basket, Jerry? That's
like saying all ham operators are the same. Seem fair?

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Jerry Oxendine December 9th 03 03:33 AM


"Ox is a Weirdol" wrote in message
...


500,000 ham operators enjoy ham radio.


= Quality !




25,000,000 CB operators enjoy CB.


=Quantity! Is that why them 25,000,000 (doubtful) CBers never get asked to
handle eee-mer-geen-ceee! traffic like them "hammies" do? (thar)



One nutcase in Gastonia NC with no life is obsessed
with chasing 18-wheelers.



Hmmmm! New York, South Carolina, Idaho, Wisconsin, North Carolina, Oregon,
Massachusetts, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, and Kentucky, AND
Califormia!!!! BOY! Do I ever get around
"chasing" those 18 wheelers!! Now THAT's funny!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! All them pore ole
truckers "chased" down by little ole me--I'm flattered!!


J

















Steveo December 9th 03 03:37 AM

"Jerry Oxendine" wrote:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


Yore havin' too much fun, Jer. ;)

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Jerry Oxendine December 9th 03 03:38 AM


"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"Jerry Oxendine" wrote:
"Dr. Death" wrote in message
...
i've operated out of band for 30 years without any FCC intrusions, BUT
i

do
not operate on the ham freqs, that's asking for problems


And Thank you for not doing so. It shows a wisdom that
some can't fathom--they want it ALL!

Why do you lump all CBer's in the same basket, Jerry? That's
like saying all ham operators are the same. Seem fair?


Uh, I don't think I did. I only referred to those who are
boldly trespassing on someone else's turf. I thought I was
very nice to Dr. Death.

Right now, if you haven't noticed, I've been jerking "gw's"
chain and enjoying his responses.

See ya,

Jerry
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