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gw wrote:
hey john how are things in colorado springs??? ??? |
#102
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Only if you are pre 1960 and still consider 11 meters as a ham band.
Radioman wrote in message ... I'm talking about HAMS that really use a radio to transmit a signal. Doesnt matter what band. How many transmit a signal at least once a week? Most don't. If that HAM is active on CB, does that count? It's a radio signal. |
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Thats why I say good riddance to ARRL and QST.
"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message igy.com... "JEP" wrote in message om... Just my point. I don't want to belong to ARRL just as I don't care to belong to AARP, NRA, AAA, Skinheads, etc. I just want to read their magazine when it has something that interests me. I wouldn't buy it every month as most of the time it has useless drivel about some clowntest or whether someone died or some such crap. ARRL and QST have a short time left as the active Ham population lessens. Well then you can't expect the magazine to be sold at outlets when you only buy it once in a while. They've got to recoup the costs of printing and distributing and the "once in a while" buyer just doesn't provide that. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
#104
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Check the figures yourself then check how many are really active. Yes
you can but NRA and AARP rags on the stand. AAA no. I quoted no data, I made an observation. Get you head out the sand and look around. See all of your old buddies just hanging around the club meeting doing nothing? is field day as well attended as it was in the 60's? Are new folks welcomed? Is help provided? If so then consider yourself lucky. "Bill Sohl" wrote in message hlink.net... "JEP" wrote in message om... Just my point. I don't want to belong to ARRL just as I don't care to belong to AARP, NRA, AAA, Skinheads, etc. Can you "just buy" the magazines of AARP, NRA, AAA, etc. without joining? I am always amazed at people that want the "benefits" of an organization's efforts, in this case the publication, but don't want to support the organization by joining. I see the same thing at times in the antique car hobby. People that bitch about the club rules at a car show, or otherwise want technical help from club officials but won't part with the few bucks it takes to join. I just want to read their magazine when it has something that interests me. I wouldn't buy it every month as most of the time it has useless drivel about some clowntest or whether someone died or some such crap. ARRL and QST have a short time left as the active Ham population lessens. Is it lessening? News to me. If they took a real survey as to how many real active ham there are they would find the number far less than they think. I'm not talking about members, I'm talking about HAMS that really use a radio to transmit a signal. Doesnt matter what band. How many transmit a signal at least once a week? Most don't. Please provide your survey data. Look at your local HAM clubs, talk to the members(if you can wake them up). Most show up and act disgusted with the club, Ham radio, life in general. New folks are never there. Ya I know about your Skywarn in Flint, MI. Great service! Could be run on CB, NEXTEL, GMRS. Could be but isn't...there in lies the difference. Cheers, Bill K2UNK |
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JEP wrote:
Thats why I say good riddance to ARRL and QST. That'll show 'em... Dave K8MN |
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JEP wrote:
Check the figures yourself then check how many are really active. Yes you can but NRA and AARP rags on the stand. AAA no. I quoted no data, I made an observation. Get you head out the sand and look around. See all of your old buddies just hanging around the club meeting doing nothing? Yep, that's the same thing they were doing twenty or thirty years ago. They show up though. is field day as well attended as it was in the 60's? Yep. Are new folks welcomed? Yep. Is help provided? Yep. If so then consider yourself lucky. I don't know about lucky. Fortunate, maybe, that my experience over forty years in amateur radio hasn't been the unpleasant one you've obviously been forced to endure. Dave K8MN |
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"Dave Heil" wrote in message ... JEP wrote: Thats why I say good riddance to ARRL and QST. That'll show 'em... Dave K8MN I bet it will Dave....maybe they should cut off their noses also, eh? Dan/W4NTI |
#108
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Good points....now allow me to add some from the other side.
No, lets make it just one. Know many new guys that DONT KNOW IT ALL? Dan/W4NTI "JEP" wrote in message om... Check the figures yourself then check how many are really active. Yes you can but NRA and AARP rags on the stand. AAA no. I quoted no data, I made an observation. Get you head out the sand and look around. See all of your old buddies just hanging around the club meeting doing nothing? is field day as well attended as it was in the 60's? Are new folks welcomed? Is help provided? If so then consider yourself lucky. "Bill Sohl" wrote in message hlink.net... "JEP" wrote in message om... Just my point. I don't want to belong to ARRL just as I don't care to belong to AARP, NRA, AAA, Skinheads, etc. Can you "just buy" the magazines of AARP, NRA, AAA, etc. without joining? I am always amazed at people that want the "benefits" of an organization's efforts, in this case the publication, but don't want to support the organization by joining. I see the same thing at times in the antique car hobby. People that bitch about the club rules at a car show, or otherwise want technical help from club officials but won't part with the few bucks it takes to join. I just want to read their magazine when it has something that interests me. I wouldn't buy it every month as most of the time it has useless drivel about some clowntest or whether someone died or some such crap. ARRL and QST have a short time left as the active Ham population lessens. Is it lessening? News to me. If they took a real survey as to how many real active ham there are they would find the number far less than they think. I'm not talking about members, I'm talking about HAMS that really use a radio to transmit a signal. Doesnt matter what band. How many transmit a signal at least once a week? Most don't. Please provide your survey data. Look at your local HAM clubs, talk to the members(if you can wake them up). Most show up and act disgusted with the club, Ham radio, life in general. New folks are never there. Ya I know about your Skywarn in Flint, MI. Great service! Could be run on CB, NEXTEL, GMRS. Could be but isn't...there in lies the difference. Cheers, Bill K2UNK |
#109
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"JEP" wrote in message om... Thats why I say good riddance to ARRL and QST. "Dee D. Flint" wrote in message igy.com... "JEP" wrote in message om... Just my point. I don't want to belong to ARRL just as I don't care to belong to AARP, NRA, AAA, Skinheads, etc. I just want to read their magazine when it has something that interests me. I wouldn't buy it every month as most of the time it has useless drivel about some clowntest or whether someone died or some such crap. ARRL and QST have a short time left as the active Ham population lessens. Well then you can't expect the magazine to be sold at outlets when you only buy it once in a while. They've got to recoup the costs of printing and distributing and the "once in a while" buyer just doesn't provide that. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE Gee ... I've declined the AARP (for now at least - they started sending me membership solicitations on my 50th birthday - maybe some day I'll see a benefit) The NRA would be of interest if I was still a hunter, but alas, the XYL is a biologist and state-licensed wildlife rehabilitator, so for the sake of marital harmony, I've given up that hobby. (I have so many other things going on, I don't know when I'd have the time for it anyway ...) The AAA has never appealed to me ... I get good towing coverage for much less through my car insurance and my new Ford Explorer also comes with roadside assistance. Skinheads ... well 'nuff said, I guess. However, WRT the ARRL - as much as I've had some policy differences with them over the years, they DO do a LOT of good things for ham radio, and their member services and publications are also valuable. All together, I made the value judgment to support the ARRL by maintaining membership for the past 25+ years (I should have become a life member years ago - I'd have really saved money over the years - but I resisted because of my policy differences with the ARRL leadership in a couple of areas.) However, with BPL, CC&Rs (don't affect me, but affect a lot of hams), and the good work that the ARRL/IARU did at the WRC on 40m expansion, I finally decided to become a life member and to work my policy differences from the inside as well as from the outside. If I live an average life span from now, I'll just about break even on the $975.00 life membership. I also sent them $100.00 earmarked to support Ed Hare's work against the BPL threat. I think that ARRL membership (with QST included) is a good value at the current dues rates and find it hard to understand how anyone who's REALLY interested in ham radio and its future could justify NOT joining and supporting the good things that the ARRL does - you don't have to agree with EVERYTHING they do or every position they take (I don't ...), but on balance they do much more right than wrong, so I support them for that and joust with them on the things I disagree with. -- Carl R. Stevenson - wk3c Grid Square FN20fm http://home.ptd.net/~wk3c ------------------------------------------------------ NCI-1052 Executive Director, No Code International Fellow, The Radio Club of America Senior Member, IEEE Member, IEEE Standards Association Chair, IEEE 802.18 Radio Regulatory Technical Advisory Group Chair, Wi-Fi Alliance Regulatory Committee Co-Chair, Wi-Fi Alliance Legislative Committee Member, QCWA (31424) Life Member, ARRL Member, TAPR ------------------------------------------------------ Join No Code International! Hams for the 21st Century. Help assure the survival and prosperity of ham radio. http://www.nocode.org I can't understand how |
#110
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JEP wrote:
Look at your local HAM clubs, talk to the members(if you can wake them up). Most show up and act disgusted with the club, Ham radio, life in general. New folks are never there. From reading your posts, I think you would fit right in with a club like that, JEP. - Mike KB3EIA - |
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